Need a new viable strat in PvT

PvT

Hi guys, literally all my strats ( Stargate, Robo colossus, blink ?!) had a step where I needed to make a lot of adepts at some points.

Now that they're gonna explode when marines looks in their general direction, I need a new strat, Proxy sg pylon rush is still viable so that's nice, but I need another one.

Thanks for the help !

Posted Apr 18, 2017, 6:32 AM UTC

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Rinehart_sc2•

Rush charge, 7 gateways and a warp prism. Warp in 11 chargelots into your opponents base.

At this point you most certainly die, but hey, at least twitch chat won't crucify you for building Adepts.

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Into_The_Rain•

Instead they will complain about Prism and Warp Ins.

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Alluton•

Time to start cannon rushing them :P

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bob51zhang•

Seems like Blizzard just wants more cheese.

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Gemini_19I <333 HerO & Trap | Mod•

nice fuckin meme drogo rofl

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TeoSC2•

Oy, who am I to offer a build to PtitDrogo?

My own laddering experience, last night, confirmed to me that Adept/SG just feels so weak now due to the nerf. I feel with more Adepts dying, I'm just falling behind as I trade with Terran and the transition out of Phoenix/Adept is riskier.

Part of me wonders if, with a weaker Liberator and WM, if Chargelot/Immortal/Archon won't be a bad choice once more. Early on in LotV, HuK was having success with it against a stronger Liberator and WM.

I'm going to play with that this evening.

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bascal•

The real irony about playing this style is that it's honestly way more A Move than Pheonix/Adept. I dunno - I mean once you do the big shade and lift, it's pretty much hands off the keyboard but Pheonix/Adept requires a lot more spell usage and multi-tasking.

Chargelot/Immortal/Archon is just A+click and don't let your Zealots run too far. Vs most Terrans tonight I've literally just crushed a drop, then A-Moved through their 3rd and natural. Maybe I didn't play HotS and this build is old school WoL like me, but it feels WAY easier and a little derpy.

Still waiting for Terrans who build Ghosts...

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Alluton•

Did the nerf go live already?

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TeoSC2•

Sorry, I worded that poorly. That's what I get for posting before I have morning tea. XD

I was trying some stuff out in customs, not on ladder. The health nerf hasn't gone live yet.

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Edowyth•

Make more adepts. Just do the teleporting-between-bases robo build with +1 for the adepts.

Option 1: ASAP - Get 4 adepts in there as soon as the warp-prism can possibly be across the map (probably won't straight kill him, but might work well enough to mass-adept sac for the win OR set up option 2 later on)

Option 2: Slightly delayed - Wait for +1. You're dead if he attacks first, but if he's looking for Option 1, he might be too scared to move out.

Option 3: SG / Pylon Rush

Option 4: Die to tank / lib / mine.

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Elirso_GG•

Isn't something based on blink colossus viable ? or do you just die to tank pushes ?

Idk really, i'm not GM

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Enroot•

Terran will chew you with drops while he will sit on unbreakable tank wall. This strategy was perfect in hots with shitty tanks,strong colossus and no libs

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TeoSC2•

If you're opening with blink stalker, there's no reason you should be getting chewed up with drops. The bigger concern is a bio/tank push. In that scenario, you'll still want Adepts w/Immortals to ward that off.

But for most of us ladder warriors, a Blink Stalker/Colossus build is just fine. Certainly in Platinum league. Add in Tempests and some HTs in late game and choo choo to victory.

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LogitekUser•

Just switch to Terran

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thisismynewsalt•

Rush high Templar, and while they're busy typing out long complaints about how storm is somehow the most OP thing in the game, you sneak a warp prism into their main. This confuses the Terran, because you can't have 2 different things both be the most OP, and they freeze completely still in their own frustration.

Works on paper, at least

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trustaflumph•

go robo then 2x forge, maybe it works, maybe you never hold a third, we'll see

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Sated86•

Do what Blizzard has been trying to get Protoss players to do all along: Quit.

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prunzkuchl•

Charge will soon be 50/50 cheaper. Combination with DT blink now viable.

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