Chiefs parking will now be $60 at the gate
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chiefs.comPosted Apr 21, 2017, 3:15 PM UTC
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chiefs.comOh c'mon I am sure everyone here gets raises that are in line with the constant increase in various fees we all have to pay. It's not like wages for the middle class have been stagnant for decades while rich people accumulate more and more wealth at the expense of the rest of the country.
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/s
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Who said anything about wanting the filthy middle class at our sports ball event?
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Don't buy tickets to the game then. This is how capitalism works and believe it or not it's been the most successful economic system in history.
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Remember when capitalism viewed labor as a necessity instead of a liability?
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This is ridiculous
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It's just trying to get people to pay ahead of time so the line to get into the parking lot doesn't get fucking ridiculous. They tried a $10 difference last year, but not enough people cared. So now it's a $25 difference. Think of it as them paying you $25 to spend 4 minutes on the computer.
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You have stockholm syndrome. You should get that checked out. Parking still should not be 35 bucks since my tax money went to that stadium. They aren't paying you to use a computer. They are merely stealing less since you used a computer
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Parking still should not be 35 bucks since my tax money went to that stadium.
The tax money was always a gift to a massively profitable corporation. Lot's of people are paying the taxes for the Royals and Chiefs and who can't afford any amount to go to the game.
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So they should instead have free parking if you live in the right jurisdiction to have paid taxes? Let's bring our property taxes to the gate to prove our place of residence, that'll be a great system.
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Well if you go to the zoo and show them your license or a utility bill that says you live in Jackson county then you get half price entrance. Its not that insane of an idea, although definitely would create longer waits at the gates
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Actually that sounds like a really good idea. Everybody in the area gets to enjoy the stadium but only people in Jackson County have to pay for it, so people in Jackson County should get discounts or special offers.
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who gives a shit about your tax money? This is about driving efficiency and simple supply and demand.
I'm frankly tired of waiting in line behind people in stores who are fumbling with their cash and coins. Get a debit card FFS.
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Uhh they still have to stop at the gate to let them scan their pass they bought online.
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Which takes 4 seconds. It's the people who are stopping everything to pay in cash or use a card or "Oh do you take a check?" that hold up the line.
That plus they're encouraging people to carpool.
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I see your point, but absolutely no one tries to pay with a check.
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I get that, but what about last minute people? People who get tickets from friends at work?
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I don't know for sure, but I imagine you can still buy parking online right before the game. And if you're getting tickets from someone who was expecting to go, don't they have a parking pass already?
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Went to a game last year, bought the parking pass on the way to the stadium, scanned it on my phone.
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This folks, is what mass transit is for.
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Only if the mass transit has entered into an exclusive agreement with the Chiefs. You can't take an Uber or a Lyft. They've partnered with some zTrip or some bullshit thing that nobody will use, and it's not like there's a trolley running into the stadium.
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I mean, if you call an Uber to drop you off close by will anyone get in trouble?
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drop you off close by will anyone get in trouble?
Out off Blue Ridge Cutoff is the Missouri Welcome Center, which is designated as a "drop off and pick up" location for ride-sharing and general drop off for fans.
"Guests and non-zTrip transportation vehicles, including other ride-sharing services, may drop off and pick up at the Missouri Welcome Center located between Gates 1 and 2 on Blue Ridge Cutoff at no charge."
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I've never been to the stadium but I'm guessing that's far away?
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Yes, agreements about mass transit and the mass transit itself has to be built for mass transit to happen.
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Fun fact: the most recent light rail proposal - the one with two lines from 2nd and Grand to Grain Valley and Lee's Summit - would have gone right past the stadiums! The tracks are about 800 feet from the closest gate at Arrowhead.
Kansas City Southern torpedoed that proposal, over concerns about sharing the rails with freight through KCMO.
A few years back, I lived in Dallas when the Cowboys were still in their old stadium in Irving. At the time, the owner of the Cowboys was actively pushing for Irving to leave the metro-wide transit system (DART), because he felt that football fans paying $1 for a bus ticket to the stadium were robbing him of his rightful $20 for parking.
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zTrip is a tentacle of Kansas City Transportation Group, which is also 10-10-Taxi, Yellow Cab, and Super Shuttle in the KC area.
I am not affiliated with any companies mentioned.
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Guess my boy ain't getting a Call of Duty this year.
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Bout time for 'm to pay for his own Duty. What is he, 6 now?
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Another reason not to go to Arrowhead, among the hundreds of others.
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Not sure why this is getting downvoted, but totally agree - screw the Chiefs and this money grubbing. Anything more than $10 parking anywhere is bullshit, IMO.
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I wonder if there's any pressure from the Jackson County Sports Authority to make prices super high. I assume they have an agreement that they get a percentage of all parking fees, versus a flat rate. The Chiefs site says:
parking fees include a $4.51 Jackson County Sports Authority Parking User Fee
If that's a percentage, then they could be encouraging the Chiefs to make the cash prices high, thus resulting in more money to help repair/maintain the complex.
Even if it's not a percentage, and it's a flat rate, the Chiefs could want the price to be higher to increase their margins.
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Jackson County Sports Authority Parking User Fee (JCSCA Parking User Fee): In October 2006, the Jackson County Sports Complex Authority amended its lease agreement with the Chiefs to create a “Parking User Fee” paid by the people who use Arrowhead Stadium to provide for the ongoing maintenance of the stadium.
Following the conclusion of the 2010-11 Chiefs season, the Jackson County Sports Complex Authority will charge a $4.50-per-vehicle parking fee to provide for the maintenance of the stadium. The JCSCA parking fee will be waived for Jackson County taxpayers who pre-purchase their parking. [http://www.chiefs.com/assets/pdf/jacksoncounty/JCSA_Parking_User_Fee.pdf]
Jackson County taxpayers pay for the maintenance of the Arrowhead parking lot whether we use it or not.
The JCSCA fee is an additional user-fee that also pays for the maintenance of the lot. It is waived for JackCo residents who advance-purchase parking on the theory they already pay these maintenance fees via their county-assessed taxes.
However, since the advance purchase "convenience fees" are also as much as $4.50 JackCo residents aren't saving much, if anything. They just have to give that money to the Chiefs or Ticketbastard as a "convenience fee."
I assume they have an agreement that they get a percentage of all parking fees, versus a flat rate.
Nope. No flat rate, no percentage. The entire complex including parking is leased to the team on game days and any revenue the team can take is theirs to keep.
JCSCA get that user fee, and that's it.
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Thanks for doing the legwork on that. Do you happen to know if the same structure exists for Royals games?
That's pretty incredible that the Chiefs keep the other $55.50. Wow.
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However, since the advance purchase "convenience fees" are also as much as $4.50 JackCo residents aren't saving much, if anything. They just have to give that money to the Chiefs or Ticketbastard as a "convenience fee."
Everybody pays the convenience fee, including people from other counties. What kind of backwards accounting are you using where some people paying $4.50 less aren't saving money?
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and it's a flat rate, the Chiefs could want the price to be higher to increase their margins.
It's only about the extra margin. The cost to park for a Royals game is $15 at the gate, so why are the Chiefs charging $60 (4x) for the exact same thing? It's just money grubbing, and a primary reason why I don't have any desire to go out there.
If I were going to take my family to a local sporting event, T-Bones is a phenomenal value, Royals are good, Sporting is pretty good (you gotta walk a long ways to get in there), but to me, it seems like the Chiefs are an outlier in the cost and experience just not being worth it.
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The cost to park for a Royals game is $15 at the gate, so why are the Chiefs charging $60 (4x) for the exact same thing?
You could look at it as the Royals have 8x the amount of games, so they have more chances to gather parking revenue. Given, they don't draw 70,000 per game, or as many buses and RVs, but if they draw a third of the cars, at eight times more games, they end up ahead of the Chiefs for parking fees.
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It's a reason I don't care for football.
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And they wonder why NFL attendance and ratings are down
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$35 prepay, $60 cash at the gate.
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$35 prepay, plus something like another $10 in service charges.
Last year when it was $40 at the gate, you could prepay for $30, only to get charged another $7-8 in fees to buy it online.
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This won't be a problem for me as I will not take my kids to an NFL game. The atmosphere has not been family friendly for years.
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I haven't been to a game in years and years, genuinely curious, what has been so off-putting?
I'm imagining drinking, cursing, fighting but would love to hear from you.
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Imagine the most disgusting collection of hillybilly racist rednecks drunk off their asses and screaming their tits off at anybody and anything for no reason. This is why nobody takes younger children to Chiefs games anymore.
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last game I went to, I saw a guy slap his 8 year old son in the face for not knowing what he wanted to order at the concession stand. it was a hard slap too. and it was a preseason game.
another thing, you can't even wear an opposing teams jersey to a game without getting berated constantly by shitheads anymore. and there's a better than 50/50 chance someone will throw shit at you.
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That's insane. I would expect from fans hailing from a select few regions of this country but I've never heard of Chiefs fans being this bad.
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Chiefs fans are just fucking horrible
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Every time an opposing team has a big play they flash a warning on the mega screens to remind fans to be respectful. I've never been to another stadium that was so concerned about the home team fans being violent to fans of the visitors.
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This won't be a problem for me as I will not take my kids to an NFL game. The atmosphere has not been family friendly for
yearsdecades.
My folks took me in the mid 80s and we were all shocked at the combinations of swear words being used. If I may paraphrase:
"Now, I had heard those word before, but never like this. Chiefs fans work in profanity the way other artists might work in oils or clay. It is their true medium; they are masters."
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No one wants a bunch of kids ruining our good time anyway.
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So, prepay. It was that way last year too. They do this to try to quicken entry in to the lots. No sympathy for people that don't plan ahead. The Chiefs aren't hiding this and have been upfront about why they are doing it - they don't want people to pay $60.
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Last year was $40.
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Last year it went UP to $40
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At face value this seems insane. I think it has more to do with them trying to get people to carpool and make the lines at the gates move quickly.
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make the lines at the gates move quickly
This is the only reason.
They have plenty of parking, but it takes so long to get through the tollbooths. Coincidentally, it's the season parking passes that slow things down. Taking cash is a 2 second transaction - hand them cash and keep driving - but season parking has a season-long plastic hangtag that you have to hand them, they try to scan a QR code, try to scan it again, step back into their booth to find shade, then scan it again. They used to have a tear-off tab at the bottom that they'd take, but there were too many counterfeit problems with them, plus counting/inventory of them likely took too long, versus pulling info from a database.
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My biggest complaint last year was that they lumped the cash parkers in with the folks who have season tickets and pay for a season-long pass. There used to be Platinum, Gold and Red Reserved lots, as well as cash lots. Now Red Reserved and cash are the same, so the folks who show up to one game a year can park next to the stadium while the folks who spend thousands of dollars a year on seats they've had for 50 years get stuck parking in Blue Springs, only to walk 3 miles to the stadium to see that the idiots who control the parking lots allowed a cash parker to park in the middle of 4 spaces, then take up another 4 with their tent and grill. The lot gets marked as full, yet is only at 50% capacity, so they shuttle everyone to the outer lots. The whole parking situation at the games sucks and the people who run it are morans.
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I am completely fine with this as long as they put a lot of effort into alerting every fan. Arriving at the gates would be so much smoother if everyone prepaid.
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Sports are ridiculously overblown in this country. Second to Religion as the Opiate of the masses, only this one they're willing to actually pay attention to historical and statistical facts about =P
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our hero
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If the Royals have a game the same day, could you park in the Royals lot and walk over? Just curious how they deal with that
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They rarely schedule them on the same day, as there isn't space to handle both crowds. Both stadiums share the lots; there aren't "Royals lots" and "Chiefs lots".
The few times I've seen it happen, one plays at noon and the other plays at night. They clear the parking lot immediately after one game, clean it, stage it, and tow anyone left after a certain time, then open for the next game. There isn't any overlap, and if you have tickets for both, you have to leave and re-park.
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They played on the same day in 2010 (I think). They Royals played an afternoon game (can't remember against who) and the Chiefs played on Monday Night Football against the Chargers and I definitely did not have to leave the parking lot between games.
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They give you the option to pay for both, you don't have to leave
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The lots are one in the same and they do not have games on the same day at home.
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Huh. I assumed the MLB wouldn't be cool with coordinating the schedule like that. But now that I think of it, it's pretty common for cities to put their baseball and football fields next to each other, so maybe it's a common thing to coordinate
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There's only like 3 games that chiefs play during baseball season and only 1 is at home anyway. I assume mlb sets the schedule and them NFL works around it.
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few teams still share a stadium. Oakland
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I'm offering rides to the stadium for $15 a person. Parking at the nearest walmart.
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Pro sports is a bubble ready to pop, and this is a like taking out a sharp pin and waving it around.
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Link w/ details re: Pre-Pay Option on Ticketmaster's site
https://oss.ticketmaster.com/aps/chiefs/EN/buy/flexplan
edit: link fix
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That's the same link of this post.
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I'm dumb. I posted the original link by mistake. Had a direct link to TM's page. Thanks for the headsup.
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No problem, thanks for the additional details!
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I worked there as security, guards made $8 an hour, and supervisors made $9. I hope they're getting better pay now.
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lol
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When was that? I worked traffic from late 90's to early 2000's and that's how much I made back in those seasons. That would be sad if they never raised wages for those jobs.
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that was about 5 years ago.
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I have less than zero desire to go to a Chiefs game at Arrowhead. Free tickets and free parking and free beer wouldn't even be enough.
NFL is the only game that's more enjoyable on TV than in person.
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Watch it on tv. Chiefs are not good anyways. Turn your volume up and you can be the loudest tv in the house. Quit bitching. You will pay w/e if you want it bad enough
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Ridiculous. Even with prepay that's $35 to park at a stadium paid for by the city. Next time they want to renovate it, they can pay for it themselves.
Guess they should move the team to Johnson county and make our colors beige, white, and gold.
I used to agree with you, then I saw how many folks tailgated and had no intention of buying tickets.
how many
I don't know - it might be hard to get a straight answer out of an actual lawyer
Allegedly
So many
They could just check tickets at the gate... Let's not pretend this is anything but a blatant cash grab
Doesn't the county control the parking and profits from it? Pretty sure they do as it was county employees/volunteers who were pissed when the Chiefs stopped giving them free tickets
Nope, the owners of the Truman Sports Complex keep all the profits. The County just maintains the parking lot and everything up to the actual sidewalks around the stadium. The teams maintain everything inside the sidewalks/stadiums/facilities
sorry I'm just getting to this, but the owners of the Truman Sports Complex is the Jackson County Sports Complex Authority. The Chiefs and Royals lease it.
That's why you see teams demand city's pay for stadiums.
They'll just spend millions on another SAVE THE TEAMS campaign and you sports nuts will lap it up.