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[Japan] Heretic Knight Hall of Fame

Japan

It was released today : https://altema.jp/ffmobius/herethixtukunaito

Stats + 50%

Defense + 30

Critical Damage + 100%

Revenge Burn (Damage increased proportional with the damage received in the last two turns)

Before, the job as ranked 85 SP and 94 MP. Now is 96 SP and 98 MP . He was added to S+ ranking in tower ( 5th place now). Graband is next !!!

Posted Jul 9, 2017, 12:12 AM UTC · edited

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armastevs•

His magic is too low

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GwynLordofCynder•

He is a defender tough...

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xperxz•

But then you have these 2 defenders with 845/860% magic https://altema.jp/ffmobius/job/136 and https://altema.jp/ffmobius/job/129

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GwynLordofCynder•

One of them it's not really a Defender, it's an hybrid, that can switch and modify his stats, to get more damage or to get more defence. The other it's a legendary Job released 1 year +8 months latter than the original Heretic when the meta of the game is to different.

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xperxz•

I already know about what those 2 jobs were but your missing the whole point of the comment. u/armastevs saying cool you have a HoF buff but your magic is still too low and your saying defenders supposed to have low magic in the first place. My point is that lately the japanese version is breaking those conventions of a "defender", EK also has a ton of break and SS has a ton attack stats.

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Mtax•

Revenge Burn seems like a interesting game mechanic for a tank.

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phdcoderOP•

Revenge burn is useless as an extra-skill ability. But inside a class, it may be good. Now in JP , Garland can do as much dark damage as a S1C , when the hit critical, and you receive a damage equal of you HP in the last 2 turns(summed up) .

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Mtax•

Sounds like a cool thing to go along Berserk.

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phdcoderOP•

THe problem is that the only card for warrior with RB is a light one.

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Ketchary•

Does anyone know how Revenge Burn numerically functions? It's also on a set of Monk cards in the future and as far as I'm aware, no other job has it.

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phdcoderOP•

Each class have 1 revenge burn cards. Monk has two ( the second is an FFXII event one ) Altema has an article about it !. its seems that you gain 50% of the damage (based on your Hp) as magic power . If you have 10k hp and receive 10k damage in the last 2 turns(summed up), you ability is 50% more powerful. https://altema.jp/ffmobius/revengeburn-15846

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Ketchary•

Cheers.

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xTeKt0n1c•

I wonder what the % damage increase from Revenge Burn is. Crit +100% is a nice boost (I prefer crit damage up to other damage boosting options) and the other 2 extras are as expected! Solid defender. Despite the low magic, he might be able to do some 'decent' crit damage with UB/Centaur + revenge burn in SP.

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phdcoderOP•

Altema has an article about it !. its seems that you gain 50% of the damage (based on your Hp) as magic power . If you have 10k hp and receive 10k damage in the last 2 turns(summed up), you ability is 50% more powerful. https://altema.jp/ffmobius/revengeburn-15846

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xTeKt0n1c•

Thanks. It sounds like it is fairly decent.

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yaugieLC•

Revenge Burn is an odd choice for a HoF Panel, but I guess it fits Garland's whole thing. Surprised they haven't given a job a Counterattack one though.

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Ketchary•

Sadly these Altema job rankings are meaningless. They don't get lowered ovrr time to adjust for power creep, and rating jobs is altogether fairly meaningless anyway. Half the jobs are at 96+.

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angelflames1337•

Not true. Altema rating has been adjusted multiple times before.

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Ketchary•

Not frequently enough, as is obvious. It absolutely shouldn't be the case that nearly everything has a rating greater than 80/100 and the worst functional card in the game is at 60/100 (iirc). It means something that half of all the jobs are at least 96/100 now, but a year ago half of all jobs were at least 80/100 and well-varied.

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isenk2dah•

To be fair, a year ago a lot of the jobs are really far apart in power, some of which are just plain out shitty compared to the good jobs of that time. Right now almost all of the newer HoF jobs and new release jobs are indeed really great so they deserve those scores.

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Ketchary•

Yes, they are all really good, but a year ago everyone would've said the same about our current jobs in GL. Also, in JP there are jobs that make many others simply obsolete (similar to our Occultist vs Mage / Black Mage / Red Mage) and this isn't well-reflected in the ratings. Jobs should've had degrading ratings over time but this hasn't happened.

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GwynLordofCynder•

Agree, I stopped trusting altema rankings after I noticed that Nekomata was ranked as high as Aranea FFXV something around May of this year. They don't check back previous analysis.

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