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Oslo Maraton 2017 - Sub 2:35?

Race Report

Oslo Maraton 2017

Goals

GoalTime
A2:34:59
B2:35:50
C2:38:09

A goal is to go sub 2:35. B goal is to run exactly 2 hours faster than my first marathon (4:35:50), which I ran in 2013. C goal is to beat the PR I ran in Rotterdam in April (2:38:10).

As for placing, I don't really care. Maybe I can sneak into the top 10?

Scroll down till the end if you want to see how I did now, but where's the fun in that?

Training

This training period was pretty standard. Nothing extraordinary, just the daily grind. I don't think I did many workouts that will make you go "wow". I try to focus on consistency instead. Also, I really love to race a lot, so I'm replacing some workouts with races. I will rarely taper for any of these at all. Oslo would actually be my 24th race of the year (not counting biking). I would always be tapering if I wanted to taper for them all. After the Rotterdam Marathon in April, I took 6 days off from running. Then I made the plan to run sub 2:35 in Oslo. I used the Pfitz 12/105 as the benchmark for the last 12 weeks and then adjusted it a little to fit my life and love of racing. Before then I just mostly did what I wanted to based on the training I've done before.

That meant I had 154 days to get ready. I'm not a fan of rest days, so I ran every single day except for two days where I raced on my bike. Normally I would run as well, but I just hadn't time on those two days.

Actually, my marathon build-up lasted for 22 weeks. My weekly km looked like this: 72, 101, 135, 175, 109, 172, 145, 164, 157, 127, 84, 144, 151, 162, 139, 156, 116, 121, 83, 154, 104, 98. 22 weeks is really a long time to only focus on one goal, so that's part of the reason I race so frequently.

Some highlights from the training period: PR in the 5k. First 16:17, then 16:13 and finally 15:59,52! The last one was a solo effort, so I knew I had more in me as well. I would have PR'ed in the 10k as well, but some guy pointed us in the wrong direction and we ended up running about 600 m too short. I think I would have ran 32:5x. My PR is 33:20 from last October.

The toughest period of the plan was when I went on vacation for three weeks in the US. Running in the morning, being a full time tourist walking around all day and then maybe running again at night really tested me. I had to adjust some workouts a bit because of the heat, but I got in all the km's I had planned.

Course

Alright, it's a marathon in a city. How bad can it be? This bad. Two mountains per round. Because of course we needed to run this thing twice.

I spent the day before the marathon really studying this map. It's not a typical course where you can run a PR, so how do you tackle it? I figured if I could get to the top of the first climb without going too hard, I would then have 10 really easy kilometers next to really find the flow and rhythm, before the second climb. I could also earn back some of the seconds I would lose when running uphill. Then it's just to get to the top, roll down and repeat. I saw that if I was not totally spent on the second lap, it's basically downhill for the last 3 km. If there's anything left in the tank by then, just empty it all. That was the plan on a perfect day. I must say I was really worried about the last climb. I'm used to running lots of hills in training, but not at this pace.

Pre-race

Normally I'm booking a hotel when doing marathons, but I wanted to save some money this time. Slept home at my parents house and relaxed there instead. It worked great. I got in about 7 hours of sleep in my own bed. I don't think I've ever slept that much before a marathon before. Woke up at 5 a.m. Went out for a short shakeout run. This is the first time I've ever done it before a race this long, but I really believe in the concept. Got home, showered and drove to the train station for the 1-hour train ride. I travelled with my dad and a friend who was running as well. Ate my normal race day breakfast at the train, about 3 hours before gun time. This is all routine by now. Nothing to worry about. When you race a lot, you figure out what works and not.

Train ride done, walked about 10-15 minutes to the start area. A bit too much for my liking, but I tried to not focus on the bad things. Picked up my bib and had almost 2 hours before go time still. Fixed everything that needed to be done and just relaxed on a bench and went through the race in my head. I'm glad my dad was there, so he could take care of my bag while I was warming up and running the race. One less thing to stress about. Met my mom and waved bye to my parents. Did a short warm up jog and went to the bathroom 3 times. Ready. 5 minutes to the gun. Shit, I forgot the 2 gels I would normally take 10 minutes before the gun. They're still in my bag. I look for my parents. They're gone. Too late.

Wave 1 this way? Uhmm... Walk through 2000 people to get to the front? No thanks. Jogged along the fence, jumped over it and found a good spot. 1-2 minutes to go. Good timing if you ask me. I let my thoughts wander for a bit. I'm at the very front now, about 5 cm behind the fastest man in all of Asia, Yuki Kawauchi, the Japanese legend. He has dangerous plans today. He wants to run 2:12 to beat the fastest marathon ever run in Norway. He's good for 2:08. I hope he smashes it so bad. One of the big stars of the world is standing right in front of me. Me, merely a hobby jogger, will compete in the same race. How cool is that? It's a bit unreal. This man just finished 9th in the World Championship in London. Today he will run 70th sub 2:20 marathon race.

A quick glance around me reveal some other known faces. People that are faster than me. Some people I know are sub 2:30 runners. One other guy has the world record for the fastest time up and down Kilmanjaro! This just confirms what I knew, no need to race these guys. Run your own race and focus on the time.

Start picture. I'm in the ARTC singlet in the middle, right behind Kawauchi in the green singlet.

Race

(Most splits are from my Garmin. 5 km splits from the results.)

Gun goes off. I'm pretty sure one guy started before the gun, but whatever. Kawauchi goes after. It looks like sprinting to me, but not for this man. It's a little unreal to see that pace right from the start. I try to find a group to run with. Some people are passing me and no one is really right behind me. What should I do? I decide to follow, because I've made this mistake before. It's a little bit faster than what I want to run, but if I don't follow I might end up solo a few hundred meters behind for the rest of the race, even though we will run the same pace. It's only slightly faster anyway. I see my parents. They don't know I need those gels. Time to forget about it. I do still have the gels I will need during the race on me.

To hit 2:34:59 I need to average each km in 3:40 or each mile in 5:54 for you freedom unit guys. First km in 3:32. 8 seconds fast. My HR is already in the low 170's. My max is 196, so ideally I wouldn't be around 88 % of max already. I don't stress too much about it though. I feel good and I know I can handle a very high HR on race day.

Next km in 3:38. Good to see we are slowing down. I just follow the group to see what happens. I ask some people what time they are aiming for, but none can give me an answer in real numbers. It feels like I'm breathing a little hard when talking. At least I'm breathing harder than the people I'm talking to.

Here comes the first climb. We slow down a tiny bit, but the pace is still solid. 3:43 and 46 for the next two. It's pretty steep. I thought we would slow down more and make it up on the downhill instead. Is this group really going to run faster than 2:35? I don't know. I tell myself to take the risk. These kilometers are a bit boring. No spectators in this area. 5 km in 18:24. I look down at my arm. All the 5k splits are carefully written out there, even though I know most of them by heart. That's what happens when you chase the same goal for half a year. I'm 2 seconds behind the plan, but we're on top of the climb now, so no worries. The next part is much easier.

A group with 3-4 others gain some meters on me another runner on the downhill. We both think it's too fast to follow. We decide to not press. Some guy is telling everyone what place they're in. "10th and 11th." when we pass. Well, am I in top 10 or not? 10th would be cool. The next few k's are easy. 3:35, 38, 27, 34. I'm not pressing, just running controlled. I pass 10k in 36:08. Okay, that's too fast. 5k split of 17:44. 36:44 is what I should have ran.

We're done with the downhill and running back towards the start. This part is really flat compared to the rest of the course and it's also filled with a lot more spectators. It's here you really want to flow. I get into a good rhythm and focus on hitting all the tangents as close as possible. I don't want to run any more than needed today. We pass the start area and start to run in the other direction towards the second climb. The support here is really good and I feel good. Please let me feel this good on the next round. 5k split of 18:12. A few seconds too fast again.

Somewhere around here I dropped the guy I was running with and chased another group. It didn't really feel like I pressed on, but I probably pressed more than I should have. I'm sure the adrenaline got me a bit as we started the climb. I was in 9th place as we started the climb and when we went down I was in third! 4th place followed, but the rest looked to be far behind. What in the world was I thinking? I ran some ridiculous splits. 3:28, 17, 20 and 21 before passing the halfway point. 20k 5k split was 17:30. Half-marathon in 1:15:23 for a new PR. I've not done a proper HM in a long time, but still... that's both a good and a bad sign.

The speaker said that I had gapped 4th place a fair bit, so I'm sure that upped my adrenaline even more. Can I really podium here? Or even better, can I negative split this thing and run my goal for next year? The old plan is long gone. I'm all in for 2.29 by now. I continue to press on. I'm all alone now. First and second place are way ahead. I know I will never catch them. It's third or nothing.

I'm not really trying to run faster, but I still do. I just can't help it. It's the feeling of floating and being immortal at the same time. What can possibly stop me now? I feel too good. No problems at all. People care more now that I'm in third. Nearly everybody out there cheers me on. It really helps me to keep the focus. I'm soon starting the third climb. I know what's waiting now. It feels easier than the first time around. I run all the uphill kilometers faster than my goal average pace. I pass 25k in 1:29:14. Last 5k in 17:27. Can this really continue?

Time to float again. Downhill and then the long flat stretch. I try to open up my stride at the downhills. It works, but I'm also finally starting to feel that I've been running faster than planned. Maybe time to be a little careful. 17:44 for the 5k split to 30 km. 12 km to go. They say the marathon first starts now, and boy they are right. My legs sends me some really powerful signals that I've been an idiot and have to pay back the time banked with interest rates. My right hamstring is really tight and I can sense that one wrong step will unleash some nasty cramps. I try to change my form and technique to rely more on my quads than hamstrings, but it's no better there. A cramp rarely comes alone. I'm finished if I stop now.

Time to start the self-pity party. Why am I out here putting myself through this? I thought about that one Frank Shorter quote. "You have to forget your last marathon before you try another. Your mind can't know what's coming." I must have really forgotten the last one. I'm nearing the next aid station. Coffee and Red Bull. I could really use a cup, but none of the volunteers are in the middle of the road. No way I'm running up that curb to grab a cup in this state. I take a gel instead. I did my first at 60 minutes. Then I've taken one at every 20 min interval.

I'm really starting to struggle hard. I place one hand on the back of my right hamstring and try to press the cramp out while still running. It helps slightly at best. I'm seeing splits that starts with 4. This is not ending well. How could I be so disciplined in training for half a year and then throw they plan completely away? I try to calculate how much I'm allowed to slow on each km to still hit 2:34:59. I don't know. I can't calculate now. Math is hard when you're running in pain.

I pass the start area again get a boost from all the cheering. I don't want to look so terrible here, but I can't help it. I need to hold my right hamstring to not cramp up. The 5k split for 35k is 19:39. Talk about blowing up. And I still have 7k to go. I just want everything to end. I feel like I have energy left, it's just that my legs can't carry me anymore. I demanded too much from them earlier and now they won't respond to my commands. Fair game.

The last climbs starts. Running uphill is not that bad now actually. It's much slower than the first time around, but I get some kind of control of my legs. I run 20-30 seconds slower than planned for every km. Can I make it up on the downhill? I'm still in 3rd when I get to the top, but I can hear people cheering for 4th place behind me. Of course he is going to pass me. I try to run fast downhill, but it doesn't work. I'm still running with a shortened stride and increased cadence to battle the cramps. It works to get forward, but the pace is nothing to talk about. I'm finally seing 3:51 for a km. It's still too slow, but faster than the previous ones.

I get passed and just hope that not more people will get me before the finish. 4th place is still way better than expected. I cheer 3rd place on. He looks so much fresher than me. He's done a smart, controlled race, while I've ran like an idiot. It's no shame getting beaten by him, I think he's run 2:29 before, but it's still disappointing to lose out on the podium at this stage of the race.

Anyway, I need to get to the finish. I realize sub 2:35 is gone. Just please run fast and end this. 40k is passed with a 5k split of 20:17. Even worse than the last one. There are some cobbles at the end. Not my favourite running surface at the end of a marathon. I make sure to be careful. If I cramp up for real now, I might get stuck for minutes and even lose out on the marathon PR. I forgot about a small hill at the end. Soon I can see the finish. I give all my legs can handle, but it's not much. The finish is a bit faster than the previous splits at least.

Finally I pass the line. 2:35:18 for fourth place.

You can see my finish here.

Strava data and pictures here.

Happy it's over, but not sure if I'm happy with the race or not. I got interviewed and moved on to get my medal and to see my friends and family.

Post-race

I'm happy with my performance now. I'm actually proud that I tossed my plan and went all in when I felt way too good. I have no regrets now. I could probably have done 2:32-33 with more sane pacing, but I risked it for a even greater time. I'm not sure, but maybe I could have done 2:29:59 in a course like Berlin. I'll never find out, but this course sure is brutal. I'll work hard to get that sub 2:30 next year. I know for a fact that it's possible now.

Kawauchi won the race in 2:15:57. If he ran 4 minutes slower than planned, then I feel even better about my own race.

What's next?

Recovery. Taking about a week completely off from running, before I start building base again. I have a 10k and a HM left before the season is over. I hope to PR in both.

As for next season: I'll see if I get a spot for the London Marathon first. If I do, then I will obviously do that. If not, then I think I will focus on shorter distances in the spring. I hope to run the Berlin Marathon in the fall.

Thanks for reading! Sorry for any mistakes and the length of this thing... Ask any questions you might have.

Posted Sep 19, 2017, 4:53 PM UTC

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OblongPlatypus•

Such an impressive race - first having the guts to do what you did from 15k to 30k, then the resilience to not lose more time in the final 12k.

I was watching live and really wish they'd showed more of you guys in 3rd through 10th - they basically kept the camera on Kawauchi 90% of the time with occasional check ins with the guy in 2nd and the 1st female. The fight for 3rd would have made for much more entertaining TV.

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trntgcomplaining about the marathon•

Welcome to live marathon coverage.

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Simsim7OP2:35 marathon. 2:29 goal.•

Thank you!

I guess they would need more motorcycles and cameras for that. I was actually very pleased that I didn't have a motorcycle on me. When I ran last year, I ran with 1st female for the majority of the race. The bike was way too close and it really made the race harder.

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WinterspiteOnly Fast Downhill•

Dude, you're amazing. Just absolutely and truly amazing. Seeing where you came from with your 4:35 first marathon (my first marathon was 4:33!) to where you are today is incredibly inspiring.

While there's a lot to be said for the patient, consistent marathon, I love that you threw it out and went for it. Definitely a gutsy race and it must have been amazing to have that kind of crowd attention and to be up at the front of the pack like that.

Is the goal for the next marathon <2:30? Or are you going to shoot for even faster?

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Simsim7OP2:35 marathon. 2:29 goal.•

Thanks a lot! If you told me, in 2013, after placing 1964th, that I would come fourth here one day, I would probably laugh in your face.

I'll take some time to decide on the goal. I'll probably keep it at 2:29 until closer to the next race. But if I had a 2:29 in me now in a flat and fast course, then a few minutes faster is not totally out of the window after another solid training cycle.

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Startline_Runner2 Weeks to Chicago•

Confession time: you're my self-selected international rival. ABC goals of 2:35, 37, 39 for me at Chicago in a few weeks. Currently I have the feeling you'll still be edging me out... but I'm coming for you!

Congratulations on the stellar race and new PR, man!

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Simsim7OP2:35 marathon. 2:29 goal.•

Hah, I'm okay with being your rival! I still hope you crush Chicago though! ;) I'm jealous. That is maybe the best marathon I've ever done. It's truly incredible. The support from the crowd is phenomenal. Have you done it before? Remember that your GPS watch will go bananas, so don't rely on it...

Thank you!

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Startline_Runner2 Weeks to Chicago•

Like an inspiring rival haha!
This will be my first time at Chicago. My first two fulls were both mid-sized and I was alone the entire second half, so this will be a refreshing change. I'll be sure to use the GPS for the Strava glory but manual splits for pacing!

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SiawynMelted in Akron•

That course is brutal with that hill. And I thought my marathon profile was hard... yours is a good 50% more difficult. Sunny day.. how hot was it? That couldn't have helped.

I love that you went for the sub 2:30. You can't say that you didn't leave it all out there. Maybe not the podium, but how cool is it to be on TV like that at the finish?! I caught up on your old race reports lately, and I must say that gives me a lot of hope for where I'm going.

Congrats on an amazing race, and this was such a well written report. Hopefully you'll get a chance to throw down at London or Berlin... and get that sub 2:30 there.

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Simsim7OP2:35 marathon. 2:29 goal.•

Four so big climbs is really a bit too much for my taste in a marathon! But there's always something good about it. Next time when I race a flat one, it will feel so much easier.

The weather was pretty good. Almost no wind. Good temperature at the start. It got a little hot towards the end, but it could have been a lot worse also.

Thanks! I doubt I will get a spot in London, but I'm fast enough for a guaranteed entry in Berlin. I just need to see if it works out with money, school and everything else.

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CatzerzMcGee•

Fantastic run. I was so pumped to see that video of you finishing. Looks like the star treatment! Great way to at least give it a shot and go after what you thought might've been too ambitious or impossible.

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Simsim7OP2:35 marathon. 2:29 goal.•

Thanks! It felt good to just go all in and chase it without worrying about the outcome. Next year should be fun if this continues.

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vrlkdAll about that base•

You continue to blow my mind. Really pleased for you, and it's been a pleasure following the journey thus far. I look forward to your 2:29 attempt. Wishing you a speedy recovery.

Edit: Let me know if you get in to London. I've got an entry, would be cool to meet up.

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Simsim7OP2:35 marathon. 2:29 goal.•

Thanks man. I'll let you know. I'll know in the first week of October.

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feelthhisforever under 20kpw•

Really really awesome. Congratulations man. I could really feel the excitement at starting line when you describe being side by side with Kawauchi. You know, I have this hanging on my wall, he's sort of a hero to me. And seeing ARTC being represented like that, top 5 finisher on national TV, was pure awesomeness. Now I regret for not joining the OG burgundy singlet group buy.

Little thing I wanted to ask about your strategy when attacking the downhill. Is opening up your stride someting you're used to do? I mean, with the same stride, the downhill is already naturally harsher on the legs, more impact. Opening up the stride, even more harsh impact. When going down hill I always shorten my stride but turn on the turbo boost cadence (faster pace with shorter stride). But that's just a [under] 20kpw talking, so you might as well just excuse me and ignore this.

Just to end this lengthy comment, as you said now you know for a fact what your abilities are. Had you not "run like an idiot" you would never know that. So, yes, be proud of your race. No regrets for having the courage to push your limits!

Yet again another great race report. Thanks for no spoiler. Looking forward for the next one!

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Simsim7OP2:35 marathon. 2:29 goal.•

Thanks a lot. That is a badass picture! From the world record attempt for fastest HM in a suit, right? This singlet is my lucky singlet. I use it for almost everything. And it rarely disappoint.

As for downhill, I'm not really sure. I just run. I don't think a lot about how. But you're probably right about the impact. I just took the risk.

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PrairieFirePhoenixM37, sub245•

That's sexy.

You, not that funny language they were speaking while you ran, but just you.

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Simsim7OP2:35 marathon. 2:29 goal.•

Hahaha, this is the most funny comment!

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PrairieFirePhoenixM37, sub245•

Real question - are they talking about you in the clip? Are they talking about your amazing singlet?

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Simsim7OP2:35 marathon. 2:29 goal.•

Yes, about me, but sadly not about the singlet.

They just say that I will take 4th and that I've had a small blow-up on the second round after running the first HM in 1:15:23. And that I'm probably very happy to see the finish!

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trntgcomplaining about the marathon•

I've been looking forward to this report and it didn't disappoint. For such a tough course, that's a great effort. The last 12 km of a marathon are always a crapshoot -- who knows if being more conservative really would've helped that much. Going by effort/feel is sometimes necessary for our best performances.

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Simsim7OP2:35 marathon. 2:29 goal.•

Thanks man. I'm glad I left it all out there. Going from not really believing 2:34 to chasing 2:29 all in was fun. Ended up losing sub 2:35 because of it, but I think and hope I will run faster later anyway.

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espegri•

Amazing race! It was also quite fun to watch live. On the subway I was looking at the live tracker and see you in 10th. Then when we get to Frognerparken I look again and see you are in third. First we see Yuki and a bit later Frew pass by, then a bit later who is it that comes over the hill in the ARTC singlet? You looked pretty cooked at that point (this was the second time you passed Monolitten). We cheered, but it looked like you had more than enough with just running, and no time for spectators :-P

… I got interviewed and moved on …

On national TV nonetheless!

Planning on winning Sørdalskarusellen next year with that “shorter distance” focus next spring?

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Simsim7OP2:35 marathon. 2:29 goal.•

Thanks! Yeah, I was pretty cooked at that point. Just trying to get to the finish as fast as possible. I wish I could interact more with the crowd, but that costs energy. I sometimes feel bad for all the people cheering when I can't react to it.

No, I won't focus on that. I will just run those races as hard training runs again. I will probably pick out some fast 3k, 5k, 10k's and maybe a HM and focus on those. It would be cool to travel for a fast 10k or HM in Europe somewhere.

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espegri•

I've already signed up for the Berlin half marathon in April next year. The course is a flat as they go :-)

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Simsim7OP2:35 marathon. 2:29 goal.•

I've looked at that one! Looks very nice, but I'm normally planning holidays around goal races. Not sure if I want to do Berlin twice in the same year.

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Cropa•

Amazing. Congratulations on a really impressive race. You should definitely be happy with the race - you gave it more than your all, and that takes guts. Sure, this time it may not have worked out as well as you'd like it to but I think you would've regretted not speeding up if you had finished in 2:34:59 with the feeling that you had more to give. Like Pre said "To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift."

As a new(ish) runner your progression is really inspirational to me (and a lot of others I'm sure). Looking forward to continue following your progression and improvements. Good luck with the 2:30 goal, it's possible for sure.

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Simsim7OP2:35 marathon. 2:29 goal.•

Yep, that's exactly it! I would have thought "what if" and wondered what could have happened. Now I got some very solid answers. I'm already looking forward to my next marathon.

Thanks a lot!

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moongrey10 weeks to go•

Awesome race, man! Way to just go for it, even at the risk of blowing up. That takes guts, plus you scored a PR in the mean time. Can't wait to see what you do next!

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trailspirit•

Man, I've been following you ever since I first stepped into this community. Your progress is inspirational for beginners like me.

I enjoyed every bit of this race report and it gave me goosebumps. What a bonus to have your name etched near a legend. But that is secondary to what a great season it's been for you. Looking forward to your 10k and HM.

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Simsim7OP2:35 marathon. 2:29 goal.•

Thanks for the kind words. You (and everyone else here) are always so positive. It really means a lot.

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user_ken•

Gratulerer med løpet, så rask! Incredible race with those hills and getting stuck without anyone around for a while. Lykke til med London.

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Simsim7OP2:35 marathon. 2:29 goal.•

Tusen takk!

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daysweregolden50 state marathon goal/3:02:04 PR•

Really enjoyed reading this. Your mental and physical strength was amazing. It would be so easy to let feeling bad for yourself take over on those final stretches. Great race, especially given the difficulty of the course! Congrats to you

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000d•

I watched the race on TV, and the last time they mentioned you, you were in 3rd coming in to the hill. After reading this it's too bad they didn't have a camera at the top of the hill!

Either way, great race. With the new exiting changes to the course it's really hard to plan it out, so I think it was good you just went for it.

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Simsim7OP2:35 marathon. 2:29 goal.•

Hehe, it's alright. I probably looked pretty terrible at the top there!

Thanks! Yeah, not everyone thought the new changes to the course were exciting, me included.

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run_INXS•

Congrats! Is the race you ran sick last year?

Great to see your continued improvement and enthusiasm for the sport. You'll get sub 2:30 on a fast course!

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Simsim7OP2:35 marathon. 2:29 goal.•

Thanks! Yes, how do people remember so well?! I actually got a small cold just a week before the race this year as well, but it cleared and I don't think it affected me on race day. Luckily.

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AlmondgeddonAussie in Brasil•

Oh man! Awesome work and awesome race!

I hope you race Berlin in 2018... that would be epic!

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Krazyfranco18/70, Lakefront•

Awesome work - great race, great report, great video. That's an excellent result with those climbs.

You're going to crush 2:30 next year!

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HeelYes101•

Congrats on a great race! I looked at the elevation gain on Strava and just laughed at how ridiculous the vert is. That is a great time for that much vertical gain in a marathon.

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Simsim7OP2:35 marathon. 2:29 goal.•

Thank you! The course it pretty brutal, but that makes it so much better now. The next 5 minutes will be way easier to shave off than if I had ran this on a flat course.

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