the armor show must go on
Posted Oct 16, 2017, 9:08 PM UTC
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People complaining about niches, and here I am just amazed at how Arden's face matches this meme perfectly.
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He is just happy that he gets to be on the vanguard for once.
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Zephiel still has way more Res, all he needed was distant counter buit in... they coud even take some of his Def and put more into res to make they stand out.
Also Ardent and Burguer King together completely outclassed Draug speedy role
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arden decided to sacc 8 res for the ability to claim that his EHP is over 100
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How much HP will have a infernal/tempest Arden? over 100? Do we have a cap for stats?
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a tempest arden will have 70 hp
and god knows how much an infernal arden would have
im not sure if there's a stat cap, as noone has ever been able to hit it if it exists
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A summoner supported TT bonus arden can get to 92 HP I believe
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UGLY
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i must agree, this meme is much too ugly for arden's wonderful physique
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Black knight:Fool.
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ardens b skill is so fucking sexy
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Nope, my Black Knight tore through Arden like butter.
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So is Arden the best candidate for Aether in the game? One encounter and he procs it.
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Nah I don't believe so. Bonfire seems to be the go to as on his fourth attack (assuming the enemy is still alive) it'll proc. I don't see how he activates aether in one encounter unless I'm missing something.
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Follow-up Ring means he quads, right? Two attacks, takes a hit, two more attacks, so Aether is ready next fight. Unless he kills whoever he initiates on before the last attack.
I only suggest it as a way of keeping his health up and in Follow-up Ring range, but I could be wrong about how that works.
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Yeah you're correct with follow-up ring. I just interpreted your comment as him charging aether and using it in the same fight. I think it can definitely be considered as an alternative in prolonged and tougher content, I just wouldn't recommend it in arena unless his equip with some special manipulation skills/seals.
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He can proc Aether with QP. But I think it's better to save it for the next round of combat since a quad attack should already be enough to KO.
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The more I look at it the more he looks like John Cena
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There's no reason to drop BK. BK and Arden fill different niches. In fact, Arden won't be as useful in an Armor Emblem team as Arden is largely Player Phase.
Arden negates Draug and maybe Zephiel though.
TBH I don’t think either of the 3 invalidate the other (BK might be a bit better than Zephiel, but their niches are slightly different), but if I had a full armor emblem team I would totally drop both of them for Arden because he’s a glorious meme machine.
I'd include both Arden and BK because I don't have Hector.
Or Amelia.
I feel like Amelia really power boosted armor emblem. I don't have her but it playing agianst an Amelia(or Armor March) team is so diffrent to any other Armor Emblem.
of course, BK is much more solid in most areas compared to arden.
arden makes up for everything that BK has with debatably the best player phase nuking in the game, in terms of sheer power.
Oh yeah Arden definitely has the best Player Phase in the game.
I'd still award that trophy to Reinhardt/Olwen/Cecilia, unless you ignore range.
Right. Yeah Olwen and Rein are better.
Yep, he's the first armor that can move 1 spot closer to someone with 60 HP
yea thats kind of usless tho when u die to any magic at all and ur a slow armored unit who cant move
If you give him a Deflect Magic 3 seal, that problem is largely taken care of. Putting Deflect Magic on him makes it so a red tome would need 66 effective attack to one-round him; my neutral atk Sanaki would require a total +15 in hone/rally/spur to reach that. And that's provided he isn't receiving any buffs of his own.
Arden requires Amelia to shine, but with Amelia support he can even be a pretty effective galeforce user.
Yes, he's so meme-y that he can actually run galeforce effectively. Or you can just run his nuke build.
All in all, still requires Amelia support to shine though but with her support, he's even scarier than Ayra.
Alternatively to Amelia, putting him with any flier with Guidance increases his potential effective move range to 3. Granted, Tana is still pretty rare.
Arden is pretty good on enemy phase. His b skill is basically "always double until half hp" unlike BK, who needs the speed bonus". You can slap slaying edge or wo dao+ even and he is a great enemy phase unit. And with 60 hp + 41 def to boot! Gets doubled by everyone but he can proc his specials even more.
Basically a red lukas, with even more specialized stats and the armor bst.
I want to run the numbers of Arden with DC, wo dao/moonbow or slaying edge/bonfire, vs bk with steady breath and various ability combinations. Idk how much better follow up ring is than quick riposte when his res is so poor you can't leave him in the range of any magical unit. BK still has a niche as (imo) the best user of steady breath aether in the game.
Draug's speed prevents some doubles while allowing for some without needing a b slot skill for it. His wo Dao build lets him abuse special spam in a way Arden wouldn't, so he still has a place, though it is much more contested than before.
Arden does quad on enemy phase too I'm pretty sure
Brave Sword+ only works on initiation. He can double on enemy phase, but not quad.
You're right but for some reason I remember seeing him do 0x4 when I initiated on me in the prologue, which through me for a loop and completely for got brave weps only work on initiation. Must have imagined it.
What do you mean by in the Prologue?
his B skill works in enemy phase
But Brave Sword does not.
yeah and? he's still gonna fuck people up real bad if they jump on him by proccing his special on their ass
or just give him idk silver sword or wodao