You Can't Choose Your Family

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Something light for a Monday morning.
 

 

You Can't Choose Your Family  

 

“Oh, no, we’re eating clean,”
she chirps over her shoulder,

modern Joan Crawford Thanksgiving.
 

Shove the leftover bird
in a giant black trash bag,

there’s room for a body in there.
 

Christ, her children are hard.
She has trained them like inmates,

dessert is a currency here.
 

She’ll post a staged dinner,
that’s sponsored by Butterball

at the top of her fitness blog.

 

 

Priors:1, 2

Posted Nov 6, 2017, 2:22 PM UTC

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Casual_Gangster•

Great concept. I thought the blunt tone was executed very well throughout. I'm a huge fan of short but (bitter)sweet pieces like these. In my opinion, if there's anything that could use some work it would be some descriptors. I think you missed an opportunity with "trained them like inmates". I think it might convey the meaning better with "broken" instead of trained. That way there's wordplay with the previous line and it matches the tone of the overall piece. Also maybe with respect to the trash bag, you could flesh that part out more comparing it to the womb. Good work

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grumpy_oldOP•

Thanks for the feedback!! I'll see if I can work broken in there instead of trained. The bit with the kids was the part I really liked in here.

I'll definitely work on the trash bag too.

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Bob__Benson•

This is wonderful, it all came to life so quickly. A single scene played out in my head. The part about fitting he body in the trash bag, is this because so much turkey we already consumed? Lol. I pictured my family during this

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grumpy_oldOP•

Thanks! I kind of thought of it like a vague threat if you step out of line, but it's kind of klunky :)

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Bob__Benson•

Ahhh even better!

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ParadiseEngineer•

What a lovely scene, saturated in malice. Even the line 'modern Joan Crawford Thanksgiving.' has a certain dark undertone to it, and I don't even have any idea who this 'joan' woman is! and then there's the body bags and the inmates and the butterball fitness blog - Personally I wouldn't change a word, you've hit a rich seam. The tone comes across perfectly and it's worth re-read after re-read.

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grumpy_oldOP•

Thank you! I'm not totally sold on it, but we're always hardest on our own work yeah?

Re: Joan Crawford, if you haven't seen the film "Mommie Dearest" it is really worth finding. I think Faye Dunaway had to unhinge herself a lot to even act the role. Joan herself was a glamorous old Hollywood star.

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Bookdefender777•

Not a bad poem at all. I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say with certain parts though. Mainly the last two verses.

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grumpy_oldOP•

Thanks for the feedback! I will look at them :)

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BeepBopBoop123•

I usually don't talk about what I like in poems these days but I think in order to talk about what I don't like, I have to mention what works.

First and foremost this is a actually on its way to become a publishable poem. If you put some hours and elbow grease into this thing the tone and length makes me think of the content in Rattle (a quarterly poetry magazine).

Besides the title of this poem, which is somewhat unclear, I like that the speaker seems to have some kind of outside observation of this family. The speaker feels really out of place and extraneous in this sleek, modern family. I'm guessing the speaker is participating in thanksgiving against his/her will and that really comes out in the tone. The tone that contributes to this sense of alienation out otherness is the penultimate stanza. "dessert is a currency here" - which implies that the speaker is not "from here". This is exactly what it needs to be and doesn't need to be emphasized anymore. More like this tone needs to be protected in future edits.

I like that almost every stanza (besides the last one) ends in some kind of reference to a colloquialism.

I like the economy here. It's narrative but it's not ecumbered by words that don't need to be there (ex. "Shove the leftover bird" instead of "She shoved the leftover turkey"). Since my mind does the work to fill in these gaps, I have more investment in the images themselves.

Now on to what I don't like :

  1. The first line. I don't like that it has quotes, I don't like that it's an answer to a question that is not obvious from the context of the poem. It also doesn't seem to do much characterization of what I assume is the Mother. We get implications that she's self-obsessed, controlling, etc - I'd like to get a little more of that in this line.

  2. the lopsided visual similarity of "there" in stanza 2 and "here" in stanza 3 definitely threw me off. I wanted to make a connection but ultimately wasted my time.

  3. the very last stanza. The observation and analogy at the end of stanza 3 is actually a great way to end the poem. I don't care if you edit or move the last stanza but I don't like it as an ending. If you want to make the point that she's false, corporate, and has monetized her social life then you might start with that instead of end with it.

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grumpy_oldOP•

Wow, thank you for that close read of it, and all the advice!

I think it's probably better to clarify that the speaker is a guest, somewhere in here, if it doesn't drag things out too far. And some of that economy of words is tied up in a weird 6-7-8 syllable format for each 3 line stanza, it forced me to cut fat in a couple places. Which is good for me.

On point 1, if that first line isn't obvious as a connection to why she's tossing a perfectly good leftover turkey, I need to work it over a bit. It might move to after the turkey stanza. The two were part of a single stanza at one point.

On 2, that's just a really good observation and I need to fix it.

On 3, if stanza 4 moves up I'll end up setting the scene at the beginning a little better. Still probably need to include myself as the guest somewhere.

Finally, I don't know how I feel about 'publishable.' This one cuts close enough to reality that I might get a nastygram Christmas card if it ever gets out to the wider world. Some of this is probably identifiable by the subject, at least.

Thank you so much for the detailed critique!!

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BrandingUnchained•

Christ her children are hard, she's trained them like inmates, and the bit about the bird being shoved into the garbage are both incredible lines/images.

My only criticism is that there's room to unpack these images before jumping to the next.

Great poem

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grumpy_oldOP•

Thank you so much! The previous feedback seemed like a couple of things needed unpacking too, I think you're on the right track :)

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Smoothrich•

I got so disappointed when it wasn't ABA on the second line.

Clean and Thanksgiving kinda rhyme. Try running with it. Make it kick.

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