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r/stabbot•
wotanii

stabbot is banned from reddit for 3 days

Pinned

stabbot was banned because it sends PMs to users, when it's summoned in a sub where it is banned (see below).

I'm not entirely sure how to deal with this. I'm open to suggestions.

Your account has been suspended from Reddit for spamming the site. The suspension will last 3 day(s).

Spamming private messages. If you've been banned from a subreddit, you should not be engaging in that subreddit at all including messaging any of the users or mods in that subreddit.

Be sure to read up on the Reddit content policy to make sure you understand the rules for participating on Reddit. This is an automated message; responses will not be received by Reddit admins.

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Posted Dec 16, 2017, 8:39 PM UTC

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drewdle•

Seriously?! This is one of the most useful bots I’ve ever seen! I hope they make an exception for you. I stand behind stabbot!

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FrigidKillroy•

I cannot agree more. Worth

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wotaniiOP•

until this issue is resolved, I'll turn off stabbot_crop, too

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Creativation•

The way that this message was sent in an automated fashion makes me think that this action was also performed in an automated fashion. :-/

Just to be clear, stabbot has been actively banned in subreddits (meaning a mod performed a banning action) or it is just grouped in with any and all bots that are not allowed to post in certain subreddits?

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wotaniiOP•

Just to be clear, stabbot has been actively banned in subreddits

It was actively banned. I PMd those mods, and gallowboob (and several others) made it clear, that a zero-bot-policy is in affect and every bot gets banned.

But there is a service, that automatically bans bots (/r/botbust). Stabbot is whitelisted there, so it'll never be banned automatically just for being a bot.

edit: on the other hand: I believe the temp-ban from reddit was performed automatically

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Flashpuppy•

Can you get him to ditch the PM’s altogether?

I miss my lil buddy so much. :(

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ibru•

Could you not create a new bot called something like 'stabbotinfo' or 'sbnotifier' or even just a regular username which would post a reply to the user in the thread instead of PMing them? I understand the mods could just then ban that bot too if they found out it was one but it's probably less likely. You could even have a number or replies to give so they aren't all the same comment. That's a lot more work for you right enough...

Either that or just scrap the PMs all together and leave the request blank.

EDIT: Then again, Reddit might get pissed off that you circumvented your bot ban by using another bot so probably not a good idea.

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wotaniiOP•

I understand the mods could just then ban that bot too if they found out it was one but it's probably less likely.

No. It's very likely. Stabbot is almost only banned in subs, that have a zero-bot-policy.

But it could work, if the 2nd bot just sends out PM, like stabbot did. But than your edit would still apply.

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HaxxorElite•

rude

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HaxxorElite•

by reddit

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ShotFromGuns•

Send an admin message.

Given that u/stabbot PMs are only triggered when a user themself requests them (i.e., you're not a user privately harassing people on a sub where you've been banned), it seems like an obvious and easy exception to the rule. You probably just got caught by an algorithm.

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wotaniiOPMOD•

Send an admin message

Don't do that. I already took care of that.

Now the admins probably think, I encourage my users to harass them ...

You probably just got caught by an algorithm.

According to the admin's reply, some sub's mod explicitly reported stabbot for harassing users. Also there seem to be cases, where stabbot PM'd a wrong person.

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ShotFromGuns•

I said SEND (i.e., giving a suggestion as you asked), not SENT.

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I_am_a_haiku_bot•

I said SEND

(i.e., giving a suggestion as you

asked), not SENT.

^^^-english_haiku_bot

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wotaniiOP•

ups, sorry.

I guess I'll go with my default excuse and say "English is not my first language, lol"

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ShotFromGuns•

No worries! Hope you're able to get it sorted soon; u/stabbot is a godsend. :)

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wotaniiOPMOD•

Here is a possible explanation why mods want stabbot to stop sending PMs

Banning u/stabbot in your subreddit gets rid of its comments, but if people know that the bot will still respond via PM, you still have users constantly summoning the bot - thus the "noise" problem of the bot remains.

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CreativationMOD•

That should not be the bot creator's issue. If a given subreddit is bothered by folks interacting with bots then they should just make a rule banning interacting with bots in the comments. Alternatively they could train automoderatorbot to remove comments that interact with bots.

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