Dragoon HoF vs 5-Star Lightning -- Ready? Fight!

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Posted Apr 6, 2018, 4:13 AM UTC

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WoLNoFaceNo-Face: 207f - 1824 - 22d5•

Great run Swif!

But stop giving people ideas that Dragoon can kill with Xezat. XD

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SwiftStepStompOP•

You're giving me ideas. Just wanted to demonstrate the damage but whew. Without paneling for water is it ever awful. You'd need a full team of Dragoons.

I hear Discord calling my name

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WoLNoFaceNo-Face: 207f - 1824 - 22d5•

You'd need a full team of Dragoons. I hear Discord calling my name

I wanna see a video of this so bad...

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GandaMelgus•

With saphire weapon and berserk wouldn't it mitigate some of the lack of water EE?

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SwiftStepStompOP•

Berserk? Yes. Sapphire weapon? Questionable. Iceshift provides the same EE but doesn't change the en-element.

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Mawgac•

Cool, almost looks like a Ninja.

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SwiftStepStompOP•

Breaks better than my Ninja, actually.

lol why am I being downvoted? I'm serious, it does, even with my Ninja's five-star breaking weapon.

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iarley23•

Just saw the video, it's impressive man, grats. I did the first part of HoF and tried it in a AI run vs 5* Shiva with an unboosted Hannibal Spear and I felt Dragoon wasn't as good as I thought it would be. I could add more CP, but either way, I remember trying Ninja and MM for the first time and I was like "wow!". Then I saw your video "WOW!", it's obvious that I'm doing something wrong besides no DS.

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SwiftStepStompOP•

A lot of it is in the composition; pay close attention to what my defender is doing in particular.

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iarley23•

Will do

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d34thscyth34•

Now do that w/o skin and Xezat :) and on Famfrit / Shiva :)

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SwiftStepStompOP•

The skin was just for the extra starting action to demonstrate how much damage Xezat would do (not much). Soon though!

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WoLNoFaceNo-Face: 207f - 1824 - 22d5•

Hmm... might work with Bahamut BDD and Belias monk.

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JunasBlood•

How about the Warrior AoE + cleave?

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WoLNoFaceNo-Face: 207f - 1824 - 22d5•

Definitely a breaker card, imo.

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JunasBlood•

Then they won’t stand a chance against Mr. Dragoon (w/o Masamune please)

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ShadowBlaze17•

I think Bahamut FFXIV would be a better option than Belias Sic.

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WoLNoFaceNo-Face: 207f - 1824 - 22d5•

Well yes, but not everyone has access to it... Like me

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KingHammurabi•

What are the custom panels? I'm assuming 5* Dragoon Lance?

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SwiftStepStompOP•

Customs are +8% magic, plus the two +10% BP customs from towers. Dragoon spear is at +148 BP & +147 magic, +63% piercing break, no quick break.

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draftylupus•

thanks for posting this, I haven't figured out my Dragoon setup yet. I was planning one experimenting today. My spear has a little more Piercing Break than yours, and no Quick Break, but also has +200 Break stat. I've paneled out with my leftover +Break panels, but I have no intention of moving my +% Break panel from MM. Looks like I should still be able to do it in 3, maybe 4 taps. Just need to figure out the right cards for yellow gauge and cleave to make Dragoon a potential utility breaker.

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seazn•

Thought:

Wouldn't it be better if you change CP to +8 BP instead of magic? It looks like you have plenty of MAG already to two Xezat to empty the entire yellow bar. I think once you get QB, you can two hit break with more break CP?

Edit: Once I have time today, I'll try my mentioned set up. I have a Dragoon Spear with 200 BRK and QB and similar Piercing as you. I think it'd be really cool if you can 2 hit break :)

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SwiftStepStompOP•

Possibly! I was overly excited to take him into EW so I wasn't too concerned with fiddling with break points.

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paranoing•

Probably won't use him since I haven't boost his weapon at all.

Which is sadly, because he was my main job back in very first days. I still remember those kicks out of rooms and "no dragoon" descriptions I encountered lol.

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SwiftStepStompOP•

Buster Sword and Kain's Lance should still work pretty well outside of Lightning, assuming you have enough JCR, since he already has +100% piercing break in a CP, plus another +20% for completing HoF. A well-modded Gunglade or Valiantil would also do the trick, due to the interaction between exploit weakness and en-element. Barring any of those, Hannibal Spear is fantastic without boosting.

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paranoing•

The thing is I got Ninja and his overall attribute (breaking wise) seems to be better than Dragoon. However, I notice that you could do 3-tap break while for my Ninja it takes 4-5, clearly inferior than your Dragoon. Can you share your Dragoon attribute ? My Ninja is 2803 break + 172% piercing break (์No Fastbreak yet ).

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ChoroQ_SD•

dragoon his montruous with xezat+ again fire monster...i thinks, no sure ninja can beat him again that, but after, ninja is just fabulous. i have first round finish nodes 3.1 with only lance kain (4 attributes full and full stars and magic 200%) and Kotr/ immortal/slow/ohime water Aoe, and i find it is the first warrior i have "breaking" monster 3.1 quickly, and that is rare for warrior, and that can be a help for eternal tower.

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SwiftStepStompOP•

My Ninja usually takes 4-5 too under normal circumstances, but trance, weaken, and en-element takes it down to 3. It'll easily be 2 with a maxed Dragoon Spear.

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paranoing•

I forgot to say that my 4-5 taps was with trance+en-element as well. Clearly I must lack something. (Before the 'break' tap, the red gauge is always very thin. Which make me thinks that 3-4 tap is not far from possible)

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wf3456•

Nice, i just finished the HoF Fame and added with 200% piercing break XD

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Masuo15I main Rangers and Breakers•

Very nice run; I been using Gunblade on my Dragoon for the 5* Ice Rotation (as I never touched Dragoon's weapon and Hannibal Spear seems like a waste of resources). Im sure Quick Break is better, but; do you think exploit weakness would increase your tap breaking?; or how high is your piercing on Dragoon's weapon?.

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SwiftStepStompOP•

It should be decent -- not better, but if you can make sure you have en-element, weaken, and BDD it should work all right. It's also pretty darn effective at chewing through the yellow gauge where piercing break isn't.

Piercing break is +63% by the way.

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phdcoder•

Your SS... he have all buffs right ?? it have gunblade + trans warrior + faith + berserk + ability ignition. Dark enhance in custom panel ??

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SwiftStepStompOP•

That's correct, and the +10% HP CP for Armiger. 1868% magic, 345% EE. Gunblade's not super well-modded, but it doesn't really matter as you can see!

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escapade_•

has low magic it requires saphire weapon weapon x2 in order to solo break ,if u dont have xezat q.q

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WoLNoFaceNo-Face: 207f - 1824 - 22d5•

put all magic+8% custom panels.

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escapade_•

is he able to reach 1100-1150 with panels? my fractars are 4 jcr and 4 magic 7% and d.spear with 180% magic and he barely scratches 900% magic with that

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WoLNoFaceNo-Face: 207f - 1824 - 22d5•

He got 500%+ naked(without fully modded weapons and fractals).

Good enough imo, MM only got 400% and still can clear yellow reliably.

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escapade_•

hmm dunno for example sin has low magic but synergizes perfeclty with ruby weapon+ earth PB u can wipe yellow and 2 tap and everything is broken.

MM is monk and monk skills have high yellow bar dmg so his low magic isnt important.

Guess i will w8 for 2 nd gen Bdd and check dragoon again when they come out

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SwiftStepStompOP•

The deck you saw was 1049% magic.

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WoLNoFaceNo-Face: 207f - 1824 - 22d5•

damn!

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