The 'evolution' of the whale
tangle.com/view_video.php?viewkey=01591a1640c...Posted Apr 18, 2009, 3:32 AM UTC
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I wasn't aware that GodTube has apparently morphed into Tangle.com. A quick browse through the anti-evolution videos shows that the arguments aren't exactly what one would call strong; they certainly provide quite a bit of culture shock for me.
I chose this one as an example.
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I'm glad you explained why you chose to post this as I was about to question what merit this has.
Mr Logical Biblical scholar doesn't have too good a grip on his chosen topic. He hasn't thoroughly researched the argument. He used Strawman, appeal to authority, Confusing Cause and Effect, Poisoning the Well, Red Herring, False Dilemma. The list goes on and on. I'm sure he missed a few logical fallacies, but he was fairly thorough.
He also cites his own source incorrectly. His presentation is rigid and forced. Un-engaging in any way.
I won't fail him, because I don't want him to repeat the grade As he'd be in my class again.
D-
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Did you see the comments this guy leaves on his video?
Evolution is a lie. Period. The biblical account of creation is the explanation for our presence here. Evolution played no role in it whatsoever. God created us just as He tells us in His Word.
Don't stone me, bro!
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to be fair, the whale and dolphin are pretty weird fucking examples of Evolution....
They used to be land mammals, and then went back to the ocean... that's something you don't see a lot and that seems counter intuitive to some, so I can see how they would think a whale is impossible by evolution if they didn't understand the biological transitions.
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At first glance, yes, it might seem weird. Then again, is it really more or less weird than evolving out of the sea to begin with? This is what creationists like this tend to do, think with their gut. Their initial reaction is that it's weird, so therefor it's also obviously not true. It doesn't help that the people who wrote the bible thought the same way.
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It doesn't help that they think the people who wrote the bible thought the same way. I have my doubts they did. More likely, if your modern Christian could see how the authors were compelled to write, they would lose faith in droves.
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It only seems weird because it is relatively unknown. If someone made a progression of every single mutation that resulted in natural selection, you would see it is very logical how things ended up.
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Except that they are clearly mammals. And they occasionally have an atavism, where whales develop legs.
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Happens quite a bit, it seems.
Not only whales and dolphins, but otters, seals, manatees, reptiles, turtles, snakes, and birds.
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If only there were some way he could easily look it up, without even leaving his house. Then surely this level of ignorance would be uncommon.
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Yep, it's my experience that ignorance is by choice or apathy.
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The constant talk of "decisions" and the "evolutionary thought process" is painful.
No, the ancestors of whales didn't "decide" to return to the water because they "didn't like it" on land.
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I love it when religious people use the word 'magically'
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Religion: when owing up to your mistakes invokes the wrath of god.
Seriously, what the hell is wrong with science updating and correcting it's theories? Isn't that the whole point of knowledge altogether? What kind of life would we live today if someone sometime in the past simply said "nah, we're good right here" and stoned anyone who tried to improve life, or the understanding of it, in any way?
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Ask that question to someone living in the Middle East... they could tell you exactly what that's like.
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I kept waiting for the mouth harp solo.
Edit: God, what a stupid twat...
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Please notice his predisposition to superimposing a narrative where none exist (e.g. whales chose to go back into the water, evolution decided, etc.). Also, he shows a predilection towards complete solutions, valid or otherwise, over working theories that allow for progress and fuller understanding later.
Both of these qualities provide the unfortunate mix that accepts the authority of a predetermined answer from literature -- a narrative of how everything came into being, instead of the impersonal but potentially more accurate understanding of contrary views.
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That was so fucking painful.
What is it with some creationists trying to make fun of evolution by claiming that it works by "magic"?
They think God snapped his fucking fingers and created everything in it's current form, but the "magic" that they see in evolution is laughable to them.
Oh, and he also seems to be shoehorning abiogenesis into evolutionary theory as well.
If you're going to criticize something, maybe you should at least have some idea of just what it is you're criticizing.
You know how you think people that criticize books and movies they haven't read or seen are stupid fucking morons?
Yeah, that's you and your neck-waddle you fucking twat.
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that hurt to watch... make the stupid go away
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who the fuck is this retard.
I feel sorry for people like Galileo. Can you imagine living in a world where 99.9% of people were like this guy, instead of 50% or whatever it is now.
And I love how he disproves scientific theory by reading from the Bible.
"Wait, the Bible says it happened this way, well I'll be damned, that MUST be right!"