Peter Chiarelli is actively shopping the 10th overall pick in the 2018 NHL Draft. What would it take to get it?
Posted May 10, 2018, 4:10 AM UTC
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Prediction: he trades it for the #11 pick. the trade will be one for one
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But two 1's for the price of one? What a steal that would be!
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> 1 + 0 = 1
> 1 + 1 = 2
oh fuck he's good
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Chiarelli playing 5D linear chess arithmetic.
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Nah, he's playing checkers!
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The 10th pick was a bit too high for the player they wanted to select, so trading down for the 11th was a good deal because it gets them exactly what they want.
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Tanev+ maybe? But then again, tanev in Edmonton is disgusting
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It should be Tanev alone.
I would not undersell our best defensive defensemen, and arguably one of the best in the league, at all.
Other teams, especially ones like Edmonton who desperately need some quality defensemen, should be trying to outbid and possibly overpay for Tanev.
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If Tanev was healthy, maybe. But no matter how good a defenseman is, if he consistently only plays half a season, no one's giving up a top 10 pick.
As Tanev is currently, it'd probably be Tanev + 2nd or Tanev + 3rd minimum.
I bet he has his eye on Trouba from the Jets.
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Your overvalueing 10th overall. Even if Tanevs injury history drops him down in value to a top 4 dman instead of a top 2 he is still worth more then a 1st.
Every year around this time people start going crazy with the value of picks. Dougie Hamilton fetched a 1st and 2 2nd, Larson bagged Hall. Tanev is worth at least 10th overall.
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Taylor Hall was worth way more than a 10th overall pick and they traded him for a decent defenseman. Tanev would get this done.
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Don't forget Hamonic for a 1st (12th overall I believe?) and 2 2nds
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Those are two terrible trades. I don't think you can use those as current, valid examples.
Assigned picks don't get traded very often. I'd love it if Chiarelli would take Tanev for a 10th but I just don't see it, especially after the Larson fiasco.
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One of his injuries was a puck to the mouth that fucked his mouth up. That isn't something you can count on happening again.
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Tanev for 10 overall + Neugent-Hopkins more like.
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Yeah.. that's not happening lol I don't even think Chiarelli can outdo himself this time with this trade. RNH is a better winger for McDavid than Draisaitl.
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Ok, we'll take Drai then
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Lmfao that's wayyyy too steep for Tanev.
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Is joke. Though for what they paid for Larssen, it might happen.
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Who would be upset if we traded Tanev + Bae?
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Me.
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Not me! TAKE THE DEAL AND RUN!!!!!!!!!!!
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Totally. You might be able to grab Wahlstrom at 7 and then have an outside shot at one of the four dmen after Dahlen at #10 if one of them drops (maybe Boqvist?). No brainer.
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That probably works, though it might be a slight overpayment. Maybe Edmonton throws in a 2019 2nd rounder if say Tanev plays 65+ games next year.
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For me the chance that the player picked at 10 provides the nucks with more when they are competitive again than Baer+tanev would as older vets isnt high enough to risk it. Safer play is to keep tanev and Baer.
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Tanev is going to be dead by the time we’re competitors again and Baertschi isn’t good enough to justify not making that deal...I honestly don’t think chiarelli would even make it
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Tanev and Bae for Tyson Jost (2016 10th OA)
Tanev and Bae for Mikko Rantanen (2015 10th OA)
You are damn right you would make those trades
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Well yeah but what about Tanev and Baer for Boris valibik? Tanev and Baer for Keaton Ellerby? Tanev and Baer for Dylan McIlrath? Tanev and Baer for Magnus paajarvi? Only way I take that risk is if it's tanev straight up not tanev +
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Yay for safe safe league irrelevance
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No risk, no reward.
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High risk, unfavourable outcome, also no reward.
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Not sure Edm has need of Bae. But wow, can you imagine him on the wing of McD or Drai?
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Tanev+Hutton+2nd
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Ah, the new Raymond + Ballard + 2nd
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But there's two defensemen now!!
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This is getting out of hand, now there are two of them!
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Swap 2nd for 3rd and I’m on board...people underestimate what it takes to get another top 10 pick
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If he throws in that Conor mcdavies then maybe we could work something out
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that's smart thinking, mcdavid and the #10 pick to us for the #7, then drai and klefbom with the #7 to move up to #4, some teams would pay a pretty hefty price for that #4, way more than he would get for the #10
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If Chiarelli doesn't get a top end D man or a legit #1 goalie, then he should be fired.
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He's not getting a better goalie than Talbot for 10th overall, and depending on your definition of top end dman, he's not getting that either.
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Lol Talbot has had one bad year, they'd be dumb to trade something valuable for a goalie
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Trading Talbot would be a mistake, he was overplayed the year they made playoffs and he was overplayed this year despite the team being crap. He was posting unsustainable numbers 2 years ago and this year was an overcorrection the other way. The problem of their goaltender situation isn't to get rid of Talbot, it's to get Talbot a good back up who will take games from him so he will rest. We've seen fatigue hit a number of goalies the last few years, Vasy, Holtby and Price are the biggest name ones that I've heard come out or their coaches say their tired/fatigued.
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Markstrom and Tanev for the 10th and Samorukov.
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If Lou Lamoriello can get Schneider for 9th OA, I'd say it is possible. Just spit-balling, but would Vegas give up Fleury for it?
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Not after this season and incredible playoff run.
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Fleury is already the most loved Knight. One fan named his dog Bark Andre Furry. It would be a PR nightmare to trade Fleury.
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The Devils got Schneider when Schneider was still a relative question mark that hasn't played a full 60 game workload yet.
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Fleury is effectively the face of the franchise. He's going nowhere.
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NJ got Coy Schneider for a 9th overall pick. Schneider, at the time was considered better than Talbot is now.
Of course, Gillis should have probably gotten a bit more for Schneider at the time.
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Yea, well after the goalie shitshow he orchestrated, it's no wonder he took a bit of a loss on that one.
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but Horvat!
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Yeah, worked out great for both teams, that time. Imagine Horvat hadn’t developed as he did, though. Schneider was worth more.
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Lets hope that doesn't happen.
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He's not getting either of those with the 10th overall pick. He might've had they gotten a top 3 pick
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Don’t undersell a top 3 pick. He’d get both an upgrade in goal and a top 2 defender for a top 3 pick.
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Eh, that depends on which year you're talking about. A lot of years even first overall would barely be worth that.
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That’s not true at all...I don’t think there’s a single team that would’ve traded their first overall for a top 60 defenseman and a solid starter
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Guess he's getting fired then
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Last 1st round pick he traded, he moved for Reinhart, let's see if he'll take the pairing of Gudbranson, Hutton and a 4th for 10th overall.
Update: looks like Klefblom or Poolparty is sweetener? I'd absolutely move Tanev + within the division for Klefblom+10OA.
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Would need to be a big plus.. Klef has more value than Tanev.
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Call me a homer all you want, but even with his injury history Tanev is most certainly worth more than Klefbom.
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You're a Homer I guess.
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I don't know that I'd go that far but I'd fucking love to have Klefbom on our team.
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They'd probably want Juolevi too.
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So EDM just punched a one way ticket to cap hell and they're trying to move their top 10 pick which would potentially get them a good young player on a cheap contract... I think he's doing this wrong.
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Yeah it's Chiarelli and the Oilers, so of course it's wrong.
They have screwed up the team so much that they are desperate to make the playoffs next year, and this is what they almost have to do to get a top-pairing defenseman.
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Exactly. They're not looking to the future, they looking to win now. And as much as it's going to mess them up even more, I don't think they have much of a choice with McDavid. You going to tell him, Drai, etc that you're building for the future and not to win now with this group?
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Improving Edmonton defense in any sense feels like an over-payment. Rather trade with Isle.
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I'd love to know what the "+" would be if we did Gudbranson+ for 10th OA. I'm assuming that Benning and Chiarelli still have a strong professional relationship, so hopefully they've had some good, long talks about how that pick already. I wish I could've been a fly on the wall during them.
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If Benning can trade Guddy and a mid round pick for Edm pick, I’ll forgive him for the Sutter trade and the original Guddy trade. Need more than that to forgive him for the Eriksson deal though....
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10th overall, Edm second round pick and Kris Russell for Tanev and Baertschi?
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Doesn't have to be Russell, any cap dump they want outside of Lucic
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gudbranson + our 2nd
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This year's first plus draisaitl for karlsson...would you guys do it?
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Sens would be crying of joy to receive an offer like that
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If I was GMing Ottawa, sure.
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wow that's quite the deal
I can see them having to throw in Samorukov or Bear to sweeten the deal a bit and get something defensive back. Samorukov/Bear + Drai + 10 OA for Karlsson sounds fair to me
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This guy is a moron.
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I’d be strangely okay with Tanev in Edmonton. But they wouldn’t do it since Tanev isn’t flashy etc. Him, Klefbom, Larsson is a good start to a decent defense corps.
However, the add from us wouldn’t be worth it. I doubt Tanev has that much value, but a late 1st should be doable.
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Griffin Reinhart
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Gudbranson and a third round pick or at level prospect sod get the 10th overall pick. Anything more than that and I'd say no thanks to Chiarelli. We aren't the ones who are desperate. Edmonton and Chiarelli is. And when you're desperate to make a move. Well. Dumb things often occur. I can see Chiarelli making a pretty stupid trade cause if his team doesn't make the postseason next year. I think he may be done. The fanbase there is getting impatient. But McDavid's years are huang wasted away by not consistently making the playoffs. Management there is under extreme pressure I'm sure.
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Baerschi
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Depending on what he gets, its a good idea.
I would be curious what someone would offer the Canucks.
Canucks 7th overall for the 12th overall and next year's first?
Canucks 7th overall for the 12th overall plus 2nd rounder this year and next?
All the experts say how expensive it is to move up .. so use that to your advantage. Benning seems to do pretty good with his drafts, especially 2nd rounders.
Drafting 18 year olds is such a crap shoot. Demko and Boeser site what is possible. More picks please. Let Benning do his thing
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Unless Chiarelli overpays, we're not getting the pick. Edmonton is competition, and it would take a lot to force Benning into trading for the pick. I can see us potentially acquiring another draft pick in the 1st, but not from a team in the Pacific division. I don't see why Chiarelli is trying his luck again, there are great defencemen that will be available at #10, perhaps one that can turn into a #1 D which they desperately need.
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Knowing it's Peter Chiarelli, he'll probably add to get Gudbranson.
I'm only half joking.
As he should! Gudbranson is a legitimate top-pairing defenseman in today's NHL. Additionally he has the fashion sense of a Chinese god, and word on the street is his intangibles are through the roof. Also, since he's a previous third overall pick you know that he still hasn't hit his ceiling, it's all but guaranteed he will one day become the anchor on a team's four-in-a-row cup dynasty.
I think 2018+2019+2020 firsts and a blue chip prospect would be a steal for Mr Chiarelli.
This but unironically. Listen up Oilers fans!
I thought I was on CDC for a second.