Liberal Priorities
Posted Jul 27, 2018, 7:32 AM UTC
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Isn't donkey republican
I am dumb
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Democrats are asses, Republicans are fat. Neither wants to help you, they want your labor as a snack.
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oh my, Im hard now.
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I’m gonna use that now.
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I googled DNC. that's what i got. holy moly if it is wrong I failed.
Not american btw so I am excused.
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No you got it right. Dems are donkeys, Reps are elephants
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What country do you live in?
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Germany
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Ah. Is it better than America?
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https://i.gyazo.com/f2dc81b5191238f4db8aa41145bdc8b4.png
nah I am safe.
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Elephant is republican
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Idk what you're talking about, the democrats are the same pricks as always?
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My point is that instead of putting all their effort on the russia meddling with trump shit, they could instead stop using shit candidates like Hillary or similar people, and push more leftist policies people actually want, if they want to win the next election.
I am pretty confident to say that if lets say Bernie would have won the election America would be on a much better track than now, or under Hillary.
So instead of not learning from their defeat in 2016 and not stop being neo liberal shit bags, they should actually pick up on the progressive, succdem or even DemSoc positions some of their members try to move towards.
Avoiding Trump for 2020 should be americas No1 priority, and if they at the same time also do something about the complete disintegration of the social- and climate change programs that would even be better.
I'm very cynical about any real move to the left in america, but at least moving away from the hard right would be a step in the right direction.
Using russia as the boogieman to avert the eyes from their own incompetence is not going to work out in the long run.
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Yeah but that's what the Democrats do. That's what they always did. Pretend to be all pro folk while behind the curtain they're the same, as you said, neoliberal shitbags as always. That's what this party is about and it's the reason why (kinda) progressives like Sanders get outvoted by crooks like Clinton. They don't give a shit about the people, they want da money and da power. They're not a good point of contact if you wanna bring political progress to the people.
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Yeah that's why I made the meme, instead of actually doing what people want they rather wanna win by discrediting Trump, only then to fail again because they still rely on shit like Hillary.
Since GOP and DNC are the only 2 parties anyone in america really votes for and they run the show, getting the dems to actually stop being a garbage party would be a massive boon for not only the americans but also the world.
Doubt it happens but it is probably one of the more possible scenarios as opposed to a sudden anarchist revolution.
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I'd like to see the bull moose party make a re-run tbh. It wasn't perfect by all means, but at least the closest the US folks could get to some kind of progressive social policy. Also would like to know how that party would handle today's social problems in terms of LGBTQ+ rights, taxation, racism, religion etc if it actually had the presidency.
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The democrats ARE talking policy. A lot of dem candidates are campaigning on health care, education, immigration, campaign finance reform, progressive taxes, abortion access, etc... it’s the media that’s focused on Trump. True, they could and should continue to embrace more socialist policies and candidates, but in some places they are, but don’t confuse democrats with the media.
But it is important that the media shed light on the Russia scandal because if our democracy is in fact broken, hacked, or at least being gamed, then candidate platforms don’t matter anyways.
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The Democratic Party is neoliberal.
There's Democrats within it who are campaigning on actual harm-reducing policies, but the national org refuses to give them as much assistance (if any) as their preferred neolib candidates. Sanders and Ocasio are the perfect example of this - socdems (though they call themselves demsocs) whose focus on policy that actually helps people won massive public support, but the party backed Clinton and Crowley instead.
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I know there are dems who do that, but as long as liberal media is pushing more Russia shit than any of the actually important things no one will learn about it.
When I check out reddit, there is basically not a single day where any of the liberal subreddits aren't dropping multiple articles and stories on russia while I barely see anyone promoting useful stuff.
People are more mad at the idea that Trump is a traitor or not a real america than him possibly ruining the planet and lives of not only americans but the lives of all of the worlds people.
Trump being a sock puppet by Putin would be the least of americas problems honestly.
But it is important that the media shed light on the Russia scandal because if our democracy is in fact broken, hacked, or at least being gamed, then candidate platforms don’t matter anyways.
regardless of russia, the america democracy is shit anyways. the election system is dumb, the party system is dumb and pretty much everything else is dumb. Honestly you guys really need a new political system.
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“The liberal media” has been a talking point of the far-right, and the especially the far-far-right, in America for at least 30 years. It’s not a thing. The only thing the media in America is is capitalist.their ideology is a matter of convenience. You’re confirming a philosophical keystone of the American Nazi ideology when you repeat it.
Also, yeah you said you’re not American, and you’re saying you’re getting the vast majority of what you know about current politics here from Reddit. Reddit is not representative of the American media, or politics, and it certainly does not reflect what regular progressives in America are thinking or talking about.
Yeah, between the winner takes all voting, the electoral college, we have to have a 2 party system, because everything else collapses to a one party system. Some would say it’s by design, and it’s fucked up.
Maybe you’re not actually paying close attention to the Russian thing, reading the actual indictments and publicly released evidence. no matter what form of democracy we had, if a foreign power is illegally spying on campaigns, hacking voting systems to target political adds, purge roles, potentially even change votes, and helping. A single party who is also engaging in voter suppression at every level, then it doesn’t matter what issues are being ran on.
So, democrats are moving left, and they are talking about policy. But the media should be focused on this scandal. Why should the media kick democrats around when another party is in power, and for there through criminal means?
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Why would the Democrats stop the neo liberal shitbags? They ARE to the neo liberal shit bags. That would be like Stalin throwing himself in a gulag for being a Communist.
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Because there seems to be a small base within the DNC who hold views that go beyond statues quo. Be it progressive. Social Democrate or even Democratic Socialist.
Any step left, regardless how tiny, is a step away from the right.
I could argue the same for the GOP but we don't need to kid ourselves to think the GOP would move to the left earlier than the DNC ever would.
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I disagree. The assumption that this is true is what keeps faith in the two party system. The small contingent, whether genuine or not, is what keeps people going back to the polls voting for a rigged two party system.
Meanwhile, wars, environmental degradation, slavery and inequality continue unabated. Some make the argument that war has been reduced, but in reality this just represents the fact that all but a small handful of the most authoritarian nations have resisted American imperialism.
People complained that the DNC was rigged over Hillary's election, or bushes election, but the whole system is rigged, always has been and will be until Americans reject it.
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I am a democrat and I definitely agree with this. They’re putting all their eggs in one basket and instead of changing their tactics, they are trying to appeal to a more left leaning audience and not really changing anything or offering any new candidates. Instead it’s probably going to be Bernie or Warren in 2020 and nobody fucking wants them. Even more, they have made about 0 attempts to actually reach accords the aisle and solve problems. Their whole strategy is “they are worse than us so don’t vote for them” and it’s stupid bullshit. They make no appeal to voters who may have a more centered or slight right ideology and it’s ridiculous.
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fuckin hell this is the most spooked comment I've ever read.
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To be honest I have no idea if that’s good or bad.
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Trump is doing millions of horrible policies that against leftwing ideal and all they do is screaming about Russia.
Great priorities.
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By focusing so much on Putin and Russia they are kinda saying that everything else Trump does is not that bad and the onyl qualitative difference between the dems and Trump is that the dems are "TRUE AMERICANS" who don't work with "THE ENEMY"
it's just patriotic pandering. fucking garbage mate.
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Also they attack only on that issue because it is easy and it doesn't hurt Democrat's center-right establishment agenda.
They should know that attack without a risk is not an attack at all.
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They don't want to take a principled stand because it risks pinning them down. The Democrats don't even have strong economic principles when strong pro-labor stances could have carved them a permanent chunk ofbthe electorate. They're opportunists.
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To be fair, it's not exactly like criticizing his policies does much to sway Trump's supporters.
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Just remember many Trump voters also supported Bernie over Hillary.
Some people are stubborn as fuck, but considering everybody like that wouldn't be helpful.
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Putin presents a real threat to the elections. I'll take the Democrats as is over Maga-Fascism any time, any day.
Besides, its not the ideology or party structure that the Democrats need to fix. They need to get out the vote. There are nearly twice as many registered Ds as Rs in the country. Now, if the DNC can just put up a reasonably charismatic individual instead of a robot in a pant suit...
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But the issue is that the Dems barely differ from Republicans and if they actually do differ they don't have the guts to push through real policy changes.
The only thing the Dems have to offer at the moment are Politicians who aren't as idiotic as Trump. but policy wise? Most of that shit is just lipservice.
Obamacare? Literally a republican idea early on.
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What the fuck are you talking about.
Healthcare reform is a Dem issue. Amnesty for immigrants is a Dem issue. Cutting military spending and increased funding for social programs is a Dem issue. Education reform is a Dem issue. Making college more easily accessible is a Dem issue. Drug legalization is a Dem issue.
Yes, they're still capitalists, and none of their policy is perfect, but you only feel the way you do because they've literally been tied down by fucking Republicans for almost eight years now. The last time we had any Democrats with considerable power, we fucking got healthcare reform.
No, they don't just pull lip service for these things, they write actual legislation that never sees the light of day because our political structure has been loaded with far right politicians who see raising taxes as the greatest travesty imaginable.
And it's going to get fucking worse if we ignore that a near fascist dictator named Vladimir Putin has been using his country's intelligence services to bring right wing demagogues COMPLETELY opposed to everything that you SHOULD stand for to power. Yes, it's a legitimate fucking concern that the current holder of the highest office in our nation worked directly with a right wing dictator and has praised right wing dictators in the past. Do you know what right wing dictators do to socialists? They fucking murder them.
So this entire post is complete, utter, moronic bullshit that buys into a narrative that Russian shills have been trying to push in an attempt to get communists and socialists to ignore the far right dipshits completely intent on stomping out everything they stand for and hating the major party that could actually move things in a positive direction because they aren't a 1:1 match to your ideology.
The Democrats HAVE been picking out better candidates. They HAVE focused on their messaging. They can do two things at once and, again, a FAR RIGHT DICTATOR trying to work actively against them is a pretty big fucking deal. If you actually think that both parties are le same then you're a fucking moron.
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Healthcare reform is a Dem issue. Amnesty for immigrants is a Dem issue. Cutting military spending and increased funding for social programs is a Dem issue. Education reform is a Dem issue. Making college more easily accessible is a Dem issue. Drug legalization is a Dem issue.
what happened under obama the past 8 years then?
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A fucking Republican congress
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Look Corp Dem, Putin sucks ass, but you’re also still supporting Saudi Arabia so I wouldn’t get on my high horses
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Inflating the threat of Russia (and/or any other foreign threat) is primarily used as a justification to increase public subsidiaries/funding to the biggest innovator of the (private) high-tech commercial industry aka the military.
Also the rest of the world can’t help but have a less than sympathetic attitude towards the seeming interference of Russia in the election given the United States extensive history of undermining democracy in other countries if/when the population vote for the “wrong” representatives. To be clear I’m not condoning interference within democracies, just highlighting the double standard.
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¿Por que no los dos?
Wait, you want Trump re-elected? Is this what accelerationists want? Vote Trump and let capitalism destroy itself