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jay76

What's up with the Ranger Raptor engine?

Fellow Australians (my understanding is that only we have this at the moment?), I know many of you will have discussed this quite a bit but I'm out of the loop.

Why did Ford go with the 2.0 diesel? It seems to be the weak spot in an other great package.

Anyone know their reasoning?

Posted Jul 29, 2018, 9:25 AM UTC

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Hans101416' Honda City /•

Speculating here, but I’m guessing that Ford is making the SEA market the priority for the Ranger Raptor.

So I live in the Philippines, which is set to get the Ranger Raptor by the end of the year. The excitement is palpable, with the Ranger being insanely popular over here. The fact that the engine is only 2 litres doesn’t seem to be any issue at all given the terrible traffic residents experience on the daily. In fact, most engines here typically top out at 2 litres or so, with big hungry 4 litre engines being unheard of apart from sports cars (still a shock to me as a SEA resident whenever Americans complain about a 5L V8 being underpowered). Secondly, the fact that the engine is a diesel is another huge plus for the SEA market. A very very large majority of all cars sold here have Diesel engines given their superior fuel economy.

In other words, I believe Ford picked an engine best suited for the SEA market, offering good fuel economy (better than the standard ranger!) while not being terribly anemic (to SEA residents). As far as I understand, the Ranger Raptor was developed in the Australian Outback but is targeted at the SEA market.

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raduque•

(still a shock to me as a SEA resident whenever Americans complain about a 5L V8 being underpowered)

Its because of the roadways and the way we drive.

We have big, open highways in America and many spots on them are mountainous areas. Big engines with lots of power help to maintain speeds when going through them, and those type of engines don't have to work as hard to move a vehicle. We do a lot of driving on those highways.

When I'm driving home for a holiday, I cross plains, deserts, hills and mountains over roughly 1400 miles of travel. When I had my truck, the 5.0 v8 making 360hp was able to keep my truck moving at 80mph with little shifting and not going much over 4000 rpm even on inclines. My car, otoh, drops down to second out of 4 gears and spins up to almost 6000 rpm just to maintain 70mph up hill.

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lazarus8702016 Mustang GT PP / 2010 Corolla XRS•

What kind of car do you drive?

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raduque•

08 HHR 2.4

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CommisarBANNED 2000 ES 300 Platinum•

Ohh, I'm sorry

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The_Nutty_Irishman2003 Infiniti G35 4 Door A5•

I saw a bunch of cool Rangers around Malaysia too.

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mazurri'95 Alfa 145, '00 Alfa 146, '93 Alfa 168, '93 Alfa 164•

and most countries in SEA taxed the vehicles in their country based on engine displacement, which make the 2 liter engine as the best choice.

a private vehicle with large engine can cost a lot of money just to use it on the road.

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DrDreDr•

2.0 is available from the other utility vehicle (Transit) and has more than enough torque for the job.

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jay76OP•

I sensed that people were expecting more outright performance. ie: the job might have been different things in the minds of the consumer vs Ford.

I could be wrong.

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DrDreDr•

If you want outright performance a top spec Amarok V6 is probably better. The issue with diesels now is the emissions which cause manufactures to have fewer different diesel engines ans make a one of engine project for a single vehicle much less likely.

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Spartan9567MY17 STi, MY04 R1, Westfield 7•

The Amarok V6 is nice, but the lack of manual and transfer case makes it a hard buy for myself.

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Bendable-Fabrics•

Transit has a different engine.

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Spartan9567MY17 STi, MY04 R1, Westfield 7•

Diesels are the only choice at the moment with Utility Vehicles in the Aus market.

As for the 2.0 L option, it's currently the highest power and torque output motor that Ford have on the platform.

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GaryKingstonGE Turboencabulator RE006•

I imagine that it's an exercise in taking the piss by Ford.

Charging A$74,990 when you used to be able to get a Miami ute for less than that just seems churlish.

Ford have decided to screw the public for all they can get.

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