China Server S14 GR 150 clr, no power / conduit
https://v.douyu.com/show/6Aw87O2w9XmvYGkg
Dps 5400 pargon. Before trash talking on 5k season paragons, it is very low for 150 clrs, especially w/o conduit and power.
Posted Sep 6, 2018, 2:08 AM UTC
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For those curious on how they did this...
Open map, illusionist summoners, 100% progress on one floor, almost 90% progress before they even moved once or revealed 25% of the map.
If we could all get illusionist summoners on an open map with that density, we'd all be clearing g140+ easy.
Run your bots for hundreds of rift keys for fishing, fire up your macros to handle all wizard rotations, open grifts until open map, good density, illusionist summoners, done.
Nothing to see here but utter bullshit.
Here's a cool trick elite players discovered not too long ago... for whatever reason, something bugged out and you still don't get progress for illusionists, but you do for the illusionists that summon minions. You have a near infinite supply of high progress, low health trash. I'd bet that one illusionist pack was 50% of their total progression clear alone. 4 monsters generated 50% progress without them moving a single yard. Probably. I'm telling myself that at least.
Even if they found a conduit or power, they would not have touched it to preserve that one illusionist pack. After that, maybe they would have taken it to clear the rest of the floor.
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Holy shit you're still posting walls of text on here whining like a baby about how everyone cheats. Get a life. I remember you from s12 or so doing the exact same thing acting like it was impossible to get top 10 without botting. With all your posts you only achieve revealing your own resentment and ignorance.
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Every single comment of yours that I see, is filled with rage. Im starting to seriously get concerned about your mental health..
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If you thought that comment was filled with rage and you're concerned for my mental health over it... bro... you're a bit sensitive (like WAY TOO SENSITIVE).
Try going through my comment history. Tell me if every comment is filled with rage. Or your general impression after reading the most recent or randomized 20 posts.
If you see me or others post a bad word, that's not rage. Rage would be not typing anything and in some way physically aggressive. Rage is not defined by someone articulating a multi-paragraph, grammatically correct, and structured logical, and coherent response. Odds are I'm laying on my bed typing out comments on my phone quite chill and relaxed. Consider it a hobby. I thoroughly enjoy commenting here and there on this and that.
I suspect that bad words might scare you or something. It'll be fine. I curse, frequently. I am a passionate person with strong opinions and ideas. I think great teachers and police officers are wonderful. I think there are horrible ones and that pisses me off. I love diablo. I hate some of the janky stuff and wish this game got the love I think it's worth. I accept that different people have different ideas and I respect that and their ideas or opinions.
There are things that bother me - enough to use an expletive but not enough to move off the bed or from a chair. people finding illusionist minions that summon and the party getting 50% of their progression with one elite and 90% progression before they even move once, and 100% progression on one floor with no conduit or power.
Sometimes 'bullshit' is a great word to describe something.
If my post was your idea of rage, that's a little on the sensitive side mate.
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that's a lot of paragraphs for a calm man
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You're not the stupid Avenger. Nobody calls you the stupid Avenger."
"It's okay."
"You just can't go around throwing shields at people, you could have killed me."
"I know, I'm sorry! I just get so angry all the time! Hulk always... always angry."
"I know. We're the same, you and I. Just a couple of hot-headed fools."
"Yeah, same. Hulk like fire... Thor like water."
"Well, we're kind of both like fire."
"But Hulk like real fire. Like... raging fire. Thor like smoldering fire.
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You and I might be opposites. When I'm genuinely angry, the responses are shorter. When I'm chilling, it's multi-para.
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Nice round up, great read!
Like you I love the game but I am well aware of its limitations, fishing and the sadly necessity of botting if you truly want to compete for the top spots, something I refuse to do, ending up around 200-300 on the ladders on each season! If I had chosen to bot, could my name and/or my team be present on the top spots? I dunno, maybe, maybe not...skill is still an important factor.
That being said, believe it or not, what bothers me the most is the stricky team comp on the 4 man meta (and for the most part on the 3 man as well)!
Saying Lancer, Star Pact, zMonk and zBarb on EVERY SINGLE comp from number 1 down to number 1000 it just bothers me.
I would accept the first, say, 200-300 spots using the best comp, thats only natural...but I would like to see at least some degree of variety. I know there are some classes/speccs that can fulfill some of those roles and the work, but I would love for blizz to balance them and make it compete at least till some degree, instead of just "work".
Impale DH is a very capable RGK, its not comparable to Lancer...I dunno whats the solution, but they could work with the ones that offer some viabilty and go from there. Crusader isn't a bad trash killer as well...just to name a few. Regarding supports, zMonk and zBarb might be even hard to balance since they are so much better protecting and building density but would be awesome to have something like WD support being meta, with tons of CC, etc, etc...
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I think it's a really impressive feat to clear 150 on season, regardless of how cheesy the illusionist pack is (which has been abused since season 1 anyway).
The solution to class imbalance is to nerf some of the OP abilities that make the current meta so strong (Harpoon, Inner Sanctuary, thorns & corpse lance Nec, density scaling of Meteor), reduce RG / elite hp and make other classes scale in relatively similar ways. You can't simply buff the numbers on Impale DH for example to compete with this Necro damage as a RG killer (be it thorns or corpse lance) because they do several hundred times more dps in the right circumstances, DH would simply clear 140+ solo as well then. Something like DH or Heaven's Fury Crus or Gen Monk RG killer would need some similar scaling mechanisms like power / channeling pylons to leverage their stricken stacks like Necros do. For trash killers, the double dipping on density for Wizards (wave of force + AD) needs to be changed and the base damage upped to compensate, other classes need to be able to scale with AD / density / free invincibility more, etc. The class imbalance is an issue mainly created by different forms of scaling damage, not just wrong numbers on their sets.
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Glad you are still around wudi :P
Couldnt agree more. Star pact is something "newish" relatively. Length of start pact dominance to date roughly equates to the WD dominance period lengths. Ofc wd had AD lag issues while SP is less. What sickens me is the supports, it hasn't changed support combo in 2-3 years. A new trash killer or new rgk doesnt change the current format / meta playstyle, its still the same stuff. We changed from 3 support 1 dps to 2 support 2 dps, if anything its gonna change, should be 1 support 3 dps. Ze Darkpatator already demonstrated crusader RGk has the capability to pull trash at a decent level in their 3p push, this role is a lot more interesting than pure zdps role. If any of meta is to be shaken, nerf zbarb harpoon should be 1st step.
We really need more elements to keep us fresh.
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They should have nerfed the spact wiz earlier.
They should have nerfed lance a little bit earlier.
They should buff sader heals to be comparable with monk.
They should buff DH impale build.
They should buff monk dps A LOT!
I think their should be a discussion here, ongoing, about what needs to be buffed and nerfed and by how much. That way they have access to what the players are seeing. Too late for that.
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Well maybe its to late, maybe not...
If all this fuss around Druid turns out to be true (which I don't personally believe) and someone saying that they I have heard a new balance patch was on the works for season 16 (you know typical a friend of friend of a friend told me kinda of deal) it might mean 2 things: one D4 is still far away and the 2nd is a direct consequence of the 1st, that they might still do some tweaks here and there to D3, at least till D4 is realesed or officially announced.
So that kinda of discussion might still be productive...I for one intended to keep playing D3 for a long time, because I love the game (duh) and I will buy the Switch version to play on the go! I will play D2 remastered or D4 or wtv its coming next on PC more "seriously" but assuming none of those projects will be releasing on the Switch, I will end my D3 cycle on PC and play it on console.
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don't know why this is being downvoted considering all the other threads about this either don't have the video or have a shitty youtube version of the video with worse quality.... maybe ppl just don't like Chinese websites : (