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Tips on Tips on Tips

I was just eating at a restaurant on the strip the other day and noticed there were two lines for gratuity on my receipt. Can any industry insiders chime in as to what the deal is with this? Are we going to need a line for the cook, bartender, and hostess next? When will the madness end?

https://imgur.com/a/JDFrvJQ

Edit: I'm not against tipping, I just want to know how to properly divide up the percentage if they're going to start confusing the customer with multiple line items like this.

Posted Sep 10, 2018, 7:48 PM UTC · edited

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amp3rsand•

I'm a server and have never seen that. I already have to give a portion of my tips to bussers, food runners, and bartenders.

edit: to answer your question. ask a manager at the place you went to. many servers will bend the truth to get as much money as possible.

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wizurd•

It’s not a portion of YOUR tip. The entire tip is intended to be spread out, you’re just the collector. Don’t act all high and mighty because you carried a plate. Most people in food service do way more work than a server and they’re the neglected ones.

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amp3rsand•

I didn't act high and mighty, I'm sorry if my wording made you take it that way. I am more than happy to share my tips with my coworkers, per company standard of recommended tip share and often more than that because they bust their butt helping me out. They understand if I make money, they make money and I always treat all of my peers with respect, especially kitchen staff.

You should also know that many restaurants require servers to bus and run food even though we have people whose job roles are to do that. I earn my money, suffice to say in regards to what other servers might do working the strip. I legit enjoy my job and walked away from a salary desk job to do this. I also train servers and recommend people to cross train to a server position with management. However, and this is a generalization, many whom I try to "move up" dont want to because they simply dont want to deal with potential guest complaints and the negativity that accompanies it.

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Dumbo702•

Geez, why you so mad, bruh? All amp3rsand said was that they tip out, that's all. No need for an attitude.

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dougiefresh22•

I'm not sure how Vegas works, but when I waited tables out of High School the only people making below minimum wage were the servers. The tips were meant to augment MY wage to the point of minimum wage. When I clocked out at the end of the night I had to report how much I was tipped into the computer for tax purposes. None of the other staff was required to do that. In that situation, yes, the tips are mine. Pay me the same as everyone else and we can talk about splitting.

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thepoisonman•

Servers get at least minimum wage in Vegas

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tinywoodlandcreature•

What in the actual fuck? Its the waiters job to figure out how to split tips. Dont give the customer a fucking spreadsheet.

Not my problem, not interested, do not give a fuck about tipping out the bus boy.

Vegas should just move to the flat 20 percent service charge and surly service like Miami.

If i see this in the wild, the busser gets the full bunce.

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jodytriu8833•

If the service is guaranteed to be surly, then fuck the service charge overhead and build it into the menu pricing like they do in Europe.

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_whiskeyplease•

That’s kinda shitty. The restaurant should just do pool tips and make it easier for the customer.

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JZBreeze•

or pay an adequate wage and do away with tips

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jodytriu8833•

No, because then there is less individual incentive to provide good service. Tipping is annoying but giving the customer a way to directly compensate those providing a service cuts out the employer middleman overhead. Tips are part of the wage, therefore it's up to the customer to pay the difference which makes for an adequate wage.

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JZBreeze•

Well, I mean other industries manage to motivate their employees fine enough. But going with the tip motivation it only works if the employee thinks the customer can or will tip well. It has the opposite effect on those not expected to tip well incentivising people to focus others who will tip better. But the employer is not a middle man. The server is working for the employer, not you. And yes it is up to the customer to pay the difference for an adequate wage, which is why it shouldn't be voluntary or up to customer discretion. Even if the server does a bad job, they still did the job. a tip of $0 means the customer is not paying for the service they received. People feel as if they only need to pay for good service, not all service they receive. There is no guarantee about the service that will be received. Not a reason to refuse payment.

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stitchkingdom•

I could answer but I only respond to tips.

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value_ateOP•

I'd tip you, but there wasn't a line item for "Redditor"

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stitchkingdom•

That’s because the guy that modifies the receipts is expecting one as well.

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JZBreeze•

Wtf is that shit. I'd leave like nothing and then talk to the manager and be like you need to explain the expected tips if you are going to do something non traditional. Ask them how much these people are paid, then decide from there. But the owner needs to know they can't fuck around with people's pay if tips are expected

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vegasrandall•

I tip shitty at Union houses, they make a lot more money than I do

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2ndlevel•

It's a shame the non-union casinos like South Point are run like garbage. I've been scammed with ID check lockouts on rolls that would have hit at the roulette machine and the buffet is terrible.

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Nevajeep•

When will the madness end?

The instant tipping culture no longer allows businesses to dodge employment taxes.

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CPM17•

I've never seen that either. I always thought bussers got a percentage of the server's tips.

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imakeyourday•

What's the restaurant?

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value_ateOP•

This was at the Palms

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702Pilgrim•

Which restaurant?

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value_ateOP•

My apologies, this was at the AYCE Buffet in The Palms.

Now that I think about it, they didn't even have a separate busser and server which even makes less sense.

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tinywoodlandcreature•

Who else is there to tip in a buffet other than the busser?

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sapphirelvpromo•

Obviously this receipt is self explanatory...one tip is for your server the other is for the busser. This restaurant breaks it down for you. At many night clubs when you tip your bottle server you have to specifically write out the amount of money from that gratuity that you want to go to the busser/barback that is also servicing your table.

For example if your bill is $2300 and you tip $460 ie: 20% Then you need to denote on your receipt that $140 goes to your busser and $320 goes to your cocktail waitress. If you don't, then all the money goes into the cocktail waitress pool. Yes most clubs pool their tips to make it fair for the waitresses who get the 3 big $50,000 tables in a night and the others who get the 3 $2,000 tables.

The best thing to do is ask - especially here in Las Vegas where a majority of the people work in the service industry and depend on tips for a good chunk of their income. A lot of employers take that into consideration and pay those workers far less an hour.

The standard is 20% - the math is easier and the difference is only a few dollars. So if you see a line like that - Server, Busser - know that 15% goes to the server and 5% goes to the busser. The same thing as if they were tipping him out post shift anyway.

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Jake-from-state_farm•

Well who else is going to pay those people? You didn’t expect the restaurant owner to pay them, did you?

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