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Ozil312

How to get into Commercial Post House?

Hi, I was wondering how someone get into post house that does commercials? I live in LA and I've been trying to get my foot in the door for about a year now. Mostly I've been cold emailing to post houses for assistant editor role or junior editor role but most of them comes back without a response.

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If there is a commercial editor out there, can you tell me how you got your start and what did you do go about it?

Any suggestions would be appreciated!

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Thanks!

Posted Mar 5, 2019, 2:30 AM UTC

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Bent_Stiffy•

I started as an assistant editor doing commercials in LA, actually. My recommendation is to look into internal places within agencies. I started in the A/V department. Got bumped to assistant editor in their post production department. Got bumped to editor. Then moved out of the agency to a Post House.

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Damn-autocorrectCommercial AE/Editor•

We're you able to make a lateral move from editor at agency to editor at post house smoothly? I've still found it hard to book freelance editor jobs even though I've spent 4 years as an agency editor.

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Bent_Stiffy•

For me it was very smooth because my new place didn’t require clients. Many, if not most, post houses will generally only hire new editors if they have a clientele that comes with them. Unless you have a very well known name/reel. The agency I worked at had big time, global clients, so my reel was very impressive.

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shadowstripes•

Many, if not most, post houses will generally only hire new editors if they have a clientele that comes with them

Would you mind elaborating on this? It sounds like you're saying they're only looking for new editors who bring clients with them?

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seb_reddit•

In most hiring situations, yes, one of the main things the post house is looking for in hiring a new editor is the clientele they'll bring. It's very rare that a post house has so much work already coming in the door that they'll hire an experienced outside editor to take on the extra work. If they've done things correctly, it'll always be cheaper for them to promote from within.

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ticklehaterAds | Pr / Resolve / Avid•

That's correct, high end post houses expect you to have new clients, and they also pay you a commission based on that on top of your salary.

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ticklehaterAds | Pr / Resolve / Avid•

My experience is they willingly give you one notch lower than your reel; if you've done a superbowl spot theyll give you a national spot. If national spots theyll give you a regional one. If regional they'll give you web and social, then pitches and case studies.

Basically they figure out what they can afford and look for editors that are over qualified to make them feel like they are getting something premium.

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ticklehaterAds | Pr / Resolve / Avid•

My story is similar, internal at an agency for 5ish years building a reel, never was an assistant but did lots of garbage work.

Eventually lots of producers and creatives had left to join or start other agencies and would bring me over to freelance. At these places they had lower standards so I could do their better work, which snowballed into really good work at good agancies.

Now I have the reel to freelance at good post houses.

Original agency to this day looks down on me. It's insane what assholes they are, actually, would never give me a shot no matter my reel.

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BasqueOmelette•

Get a job as a runner / PA at a post house. You’ll usually do that and maybe move into IO/Vault.

If you show some editing prowess / software familiarity, eventually they’ll move you up

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pumpfakethrowhome•

This is exactly what I did. Now an editor, but it took a half decade to get here.

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BasqueOmelette•

Pretty much. Unless you have already worked with some pretty high profile stuff, good luck getting a staff position as an editor / assistant....

Start low, learn the ropes, the hungrier you are the quicker you’ll get there.

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tipsystatisticAvid/Premiere/After Effects•

I used to assist regularly at a bunch of LA commercial post houses. fair warning, assisting is a demanding position that is extremely technical, requires developing rapport with the editor, And has a very different skill set to editing. Most assistants never get promoted to editor even after years of being good assistants.

Consider yourself a candidate for assisting if you know how to transcode, breakdown footage, create stringouts, prep for color/vfx/mix flawlessly with your eyes closed. If not, it’s fine, but make sure to be ABSOLUTELY honest about your knowledge and skill level. It’s not hard to learn, but they’ll never call you again if you fuck up. I’ve seen freelance assistants get blacklisted from a post house for messing up color prep once, Another got blacklisted for peeing with the bathroom door open from the same place (they’re kind of assholes there)

Your best bet is to walk in with your resume and say you’re available to assist or manage the vault or be a gopher (depending on your skill level). Don’t waste their time, keep it brief. You’ll be their last call but eventually someone will be in a bind and take a chance on you. Timing-wise your best bet is around Christmas when assistants take vacation and early January when everyone is slammed cutting suberbowl spots. Summer is the slowest, things get busy in the fall.

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pumpfakethrowhome•

This is very accurate.

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greenysmacSymphony/ Premiere / FCP X&7 / DS /Resolve - Speaker & Author•

Mostly I've been cold emailing to post houses for assistant editor role or junior editor role but most of them comes back without a response

Network the hell out of LA. They already get tons of cold emails. Find someone who knows someone who knows someone. Don't ask for a job from that contact. Ask to buy them lunch and advice.

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24framespersec•

Ive been cutting spots for 30 years. When I wanted to get into editing, I tried to get a meeting with the exec producer/general manager at every commercial post shop I could find. I met a few people, all said they had nothing, two weeks later I got offered an interview. You have to do the leg work and actually get in front of people. It could take some time or it could be fast. timing and being in the right place at the right time AND patience. Once you get your foot in the door it will be very little to do with actual editorial work. you need to be willing to do everything and anything. I picked up the bosses wifes dry cleaning and ran a lot of errands while getting thrown little bones by the assistants and doing the grunt work they didnt want or didnt have the time to do. I wish you luck and good fortune. it WILL happen if you are persistent.

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erikb42Mostly Avid•

Asking folks out for a cup of coffee on your dime is not a bad way to open up dialogues.

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Subject2ChangeFinishing Editor - Video Tech•

Apply for post pa, logger, receptionist positions as well. I dont know your experience level but if you are straight outta college but starting in an AE role is unlikely in this day nevertheless a Jr editor job.

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seb_reddit•

The traditional route is reception/runner to Assistant Editor to Editor. But to get the foot in the door, you'll need some sort of networking connection. I imagine there are just too many people applying to those entry-level jobs for you get a response to a cold email.

I went the traditional route, but it's become less and less common (though I can only speak for NYC). As agencies took more and more work in-house, the post houses began to either shrink, or consolidate, meaning fewer overall post house jobs. And very few of the established editors are retiring, so some AEs have just sort of stalled out waiting their turn.

I think the in-house agency route is a good suggestion. The stigma with working in house has become less of an issue in terms of switching to a post-house later, and, because agency producers and creatives jump around so much, you'll grow a strong network in the industry.

Good luck.

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dadofanaspieartist•

i have heard that people in LA go to AA and NA meetings just to network ! fountain and fairfax was where i used to go.

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m-town•

Keep trying for entry level stuff. Prepare to be treated like shit. Be open to other career paths as well.

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film-editor•

I've got a question regarding posthouses hiring editors who bring on clients - is the editor expected to keep bringing them in? Or is it just to get started?

What do editors get out of the posthouse? From where im at it looks like they are just renting edit rooms. Or do they help coordinate/produce? Do they necesarily do post on the projects too?

It's a bit different here, there's not a lot of offline post houses. We usually just work directly with prodco and director. Maybe the posthouse gives us an empty office if the workflow needs editorial to be close to post, but that's rare.

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reidkimball•

How is an agency different from a post house in the commercial world?

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ticklehaterAds | Pr / Resolve / Avid•

It's complicated, but the important bit is that a post house is a experienced vendor the agency hires when then have a good budget and wants high level work.

Working at an agency itself means lower creative expectations and budgets and are directly beholden to the whims of the client.

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reidkimball•

Thank you for the info.

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[deleted]•

Network, network, network.

Have you been applying for positions at post houses that actually have job postings or are you just randomly sending your resume to people for jobs that don't exist? If there is no job posting and people don't know you then I wouldn't expect a response.

Most jobs in the industry and in LA particularly are about who you know as much as what you know. I work at a major studio and jobs don't even get posted to the outside world because when they need someone the hiring managers go through their contacts of people they have worked with in the past and liked and if nobody is available they may ask for referrals from other people that already are on staff.

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The_0_Dimension•

Dont. Seriously. Follow your real dream. (like TV/Film shows)

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uptightforecastle•

Sounds like you hit a nerve : )

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The_0_Dimension•

Hahaha I know. I just aded the Film/TV part... I mean, I went into commercials because I thought going into TV/Film would be harder. I was wrong..... Imagine being 90 and being like "I made some great IBM spots. They made computers ya know. A computer, it's like a phone but huge."

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