What question would find a strong majority in a referendum, but would be impractical or ruinous to implement?

How would it break down? How bad would things get?

Points for the most innocuous question, and the most severe yet unavoidable consequences, if the referendum were to be respected at all costs.

Posted Apr 12, 2019, 11:24 PM UTC

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Frugal500•

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

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__sodditUnmanaged Omnishambles•

Exactly that question, with the following choices:

☐ Yes

☐ No

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WynterRayneLibertarian Socialist -8.19, -8.92•

That would be normal for our current government

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Engineer9OP•

Should've seen this one coming!

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RewardedFoolI agree with Nick•

It wouldn't be ruinous (you can even make it close to cost neutral) it's just not practical.

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WynterRayneLibertarian Socialist -8.19, -8.92•

Doubtful. After all, that would replace a lot of benefits, and come out of the same magic money tree that the brexit bill and the DUP bung come from

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That really depends on how you change taxes to make up for that, and what other benefits that swallows up.

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Ivashkinpanem et circenses•

The UK population is about 21% under 18's, which gives you around 52M people who would be eligible for the £10.5K, Which works out to this project costing £546B a year. Which is more than we currently spend on pensions, welfare, healthcare and education combined.

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Which is half the equation. As I say, also depends on how you change taxes to make up for it.

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Ivashkinpanem et circenses•

Would be one hell of a tax raise tbh. Negative income tax makes far more sense though, since I already have money I don't need £10.5K from the government.

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TheDecagon•

Actually some economic think tanks, including the Adam Smith Foundation, think UBI will be positive for the economy.

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vivimagicInformed for debate. •

I do believe this should be a thing, however under 18's need to have education on how to fiscally sound, so at least they have the potential to spend, save and/or invest.

I believe people should be taught basic living skill in Secondary school along side sex education and careers classes.

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Wursticles•

If it replaced the entire benefit and state pension pot, and the tax-free allowance, then this might be fine to implement. It would certainly reduce admin

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Dragonrar•

‘Should we bring back the death penalty for convicted murderers, rapists, paedophiles and drug dealers?’

I imagine criminals would be far more likely to try and murder police or their victim for one thing.

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LolworthPrepare for GOVE-rnment 👄•

Bit strong for drug dealers, we’re not Thailand

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tmstms•

Any question asking the population if we should do bad things to Piers Morgan.

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ScoobyDoNot•

Why would that be impractical or ruinous to implement?

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CaravanOfDeath O Fortuna•

Make him stand as an MEP?

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tmstms•

Ha! For a party whose views he does not espouse but is required to argue for?

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FordTippex•

If you put it like that, then that's exactly his skillset.

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hillsump•

Are you claiming this would be impractical to implement, or ruinous?

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tmstms•

Just impractical because stuff like [redacted] isn't legal.

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Should England leave the United Kingdom?

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Matted2503•

That would depend whether only the English were able to vote...

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Jamie54Brexit party/ UKIP•

"Do you support other people being taxed more to provide you with more resources?"

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more money for public services, generally things of that nature where people look at the positives but not the costs.

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"Should the United Kingdom get rid of taxes?"

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That wouldn't get a majority, let alone a strong majority.

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Engineer9OP•

You would hope. But can you imagine the campaigning for it?

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I beg to differ.

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PeaSouperClassical liberal•

A majority of people like paying taxes? I doubt it.

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FordTippex•

A majority of people understand that taxes pay for essential services and infrastructure.

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Brigon•

Not sure. This country can be pretty dumb.

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Matted2503•

Which way do you think people would vote?

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hillsump•

The opposite question is also interesting: practical and fiscally beneficial policies that would not secure a majority. (For instance, as of 2019, legalising voluntary euthanasia, slaughterhouse tax, or state regulated sale of psychoactive substances.)

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Engineer9OP•

Very good point. Raising taxes in general falls into this bracket.

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MorganaHenry•

Abolish all taxes on booze - will that do?

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ScunneredWhimsy•

"Should the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland re-establish its Empire?"

It would be wildly popular but it would be hard to annex Africa again now that they have guns as well and we only have 1/4 of a navy.

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Engineer9OP•

I can see this one getting enormous support, as all things from that era.

Then continually going to war invading small nations, annoying the big ones. Mass protests. But the government's hands completely tied... 'it's the will of the people!'

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RidingRedHare•

Should there be unlimited free beer for everybody on Tuesdays?

There goes productivity, on both Tuesdays and Wednesdays.

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CaravanOfDeath O Fortuna•

The Purge, performed annually on Jan 21st.

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PaimonsCamel•

Bringing back the death penalty.

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NGP91•

That's only a matter of life and death. The EU matter is much more important than that!

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TheExplodingKittenManaged no deal!•

This hut unironically.

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Engineer9OP•

This would only get a majority among leave voters, thankfully.

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gregortree•

Well Brexit option has neen shown to be impractical and probably ruinous.

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amauk•

Should we offer reparations to countries we have historically exploited?

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Matted2503•

I don’t think it has a strong majority in public debate either, tbh

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evian31459•

Do you really, genuinely, literally, want to leave (meaning wholly separate from), completely, without nuance, wholeheartedly, unabashedly, the European Union?

four options: "hard yes, soft no, maybe yes, no yes". rank in preference from 1 to 4. MPs debate the options for a length of time proportional to how popular the option was. the speaker then selects 2 random options from the 4 to be put to a vote by the MPS, who than select their favourite option.

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