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omnitricks

Hippiestation Badmin Cronyism

A normal non antag player murdering the fuck out of sec would very promptly get the bwoink and ban. It’s quite simple. You don’t get to murder a member of sec for doing their job no matter how displeased you are especially if you brought it on yourself whether it be murder, grand theft or major trespass.

This time however, it was Babymin (an apt title) Turret who murdered the detective because he was so frustrated of being caught breaking into the captain's office and stealing. Cue the promptness of admins CLOSING ahelps, delays in attending to the banreqs and then, deliberately avoiding the need to address the one applicable rule as well as trying to skew events and justification in favor of their fellow admins.

Banreq 1

Banreq 2

This is a clear cut case of the detective witnessing the CE going into the captain's room through cams and then catching him running with the captain's saber when he finally arrived. A valid reason to perma anyone (even without the latejoin captain's O-K) Despite this reason badmins ruled IC/escalation for the CE to murder the fuck out of the detective in his jailbreak from perma when he had non lethal means to subdue or escape which is the expected behaviour for non antags according to the rules.

And the reasons for the admin's support in denial? They can’t even be consistent with it because Turret’s account of the events wouldn’t even help him ordinarily as shown by Turret saying shit like (this is of course paraphrased to display the ridiculousness of it);

"Oh no, I can't kill you for killing my accomplice in my escape?"

"Oh, you are a shit detective for permaing everyone!" (Wrong, the only person I perma'd in that shift was the CE I caught in the act, I even tried to talk the captain out of permaing an assistant I only brought into the brig to use its medbay)

"Oh, the inmates can infer you were going to kill them next eventhough you stopped shooting your lethal shotgun rounds once the main threat was downed so that there would be enough left in them to be used to kill YOU instead"

Ignoring the fact the admin admitted to killing me so I cannot go after him for revenge later in the round.

And this was just the parts before the one admin in support of a denial at that time quickly locked the thread despite the fact there was another admin finally convinced it was not valid/IC when I asked for more attention to be brought to this deplorable behaviour.

Second thread?

Cue admins hinting I should be blamed since I perma'd the wrong guy, ignoring my accounts that I saw the CE going in through cams and then capturing him with the sword in hand; usually enough for admins to wash their hands of any wrongful permabrigging (although I guess this is proven otherwise if it’s their admin buddy)

Suddenly saying taking the captain's sword which is proof enough that they were trespassing and thefting is not permaworthy despite precedents that even the chain of command, coin and hand tele are enough to get into perma/be executed. Those don't even need a locker to be broken to get either.

Taking buckshoting (minimal damage from obvious spread targeted at the one person with all access to prevent any risk to lone sec or the ability for the rest of the inmates to escape) and morphining (to stop the CE from escaping the first time out of his three escape attempts while detective was trying to treat him from bleeding out at the brig) as a whole for "escalation" when the CE wasn't being cooperative and trying his damned best to escape.

Normal players in the same situation would be crucified mercilessly and then when admins realize mistakes were made only giving "oh I made a mistake, sorry" only to repeat them again at the first opportunity if they don’t wait until bans run their course so they can avoid actually admitting anything. Fellow admins however… well, looks like admins are not interested in keeping the peace or actually enforcing the rules after all.

Posted Apr 24, 2019, 3:44 AM UTC

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KyrahAbattoirDeo Machina's favourite Arbiter•

Sometimes this subreddit feels a bit like the warhammer 40k book of grudges.

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ChaznoodlesSpacedust Crusader•

They have wronged oos

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LemiwinkstheThirdMoyai Messenger•

The only problem I see with this is the lack of logs and the only person who does post logs is the person being prosecuted.

It’s obvious that admins could trim the fat instead of posting the entire logs.

🗿

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omnitricksOP•

I unfortunately do not know how to pull logs out of Hippie unlike that specific admin however.

But what I can say is this.

Admins can't deny that the CE was caught in the captain's room as well as caught trying to make off with the captain's sabre which is enough to put him in perma (or would have been if this had been a player without the admin rank to hide behind)

Admins are also willing to ignore the fact these were eyewitness accounts (a.k.a. cameras and in person) and not second hand accounts by other players reporting to the det which would indeed need investigating if the latter situation had occured.

Turret at the time was a non antag and it is established that non antags are not able to murder sec without disciplinary action (except now he is an admin therefore he is protected from any repercussions by his compatriots)

The single log he is relying on in the two threads has timestamps five minutes apart which shows this as a long series of events with at least TWO (not counting the time the captain had to pursue him) escape attempts after he got caught. And that there was only one target focused on during the shotgunning (therefore spread got him) therefore he was never in any danger.

He had the alternative to stunlock or escape (which was admitted in thread) but he had chosen to murder a member of sec as a non antag instead for satisfaction and convenience.

Admins are also changing facts (already touched upon in the main post) as well as changing rules (stating that stealing the captain's shit which he was caught with as he was getting out of the scene) is only enough to get "shouted at" and not perma'd where such has never been the case in the server.

Overall the attitude of the Hippie administration in this situation has been shifty at best and deplorable at worst and, I'm taking it as the latter since they are normally quick to jump into getting that ban on a player in similar situations instead of...

I don't know if anyone else has noticed yet but in the threads, the only people actually defending Turret has coloured names. Everyone else knows how to call out the bullshit as it is that he should have copped a ban like everyone else in similar situations.

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slips-and-dies•

turret is a babymin, yes, he's trash

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xSniperLol•

Oh fuck I hate admins doing shit like this

Which server should we change to?

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ChaznoodlesSpacedust Crusader•

Vore

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Wouju•

Time to vore the AI

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ChaznoodlesSpacedust Crusader•

Uwu notices your circuits

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DocSocrates•

Is that a stunprod in your pocket or are you just happy to see me

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LeeRoyLeBoy•

Maybe one day admins will be held accountable for their actions.

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AdmiralHippie•

stop playing there

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pokemon8639probably retatd•

words from god himself

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ChaznoodlesSpacedust Crusader•

Head hurty too early

Behold, a man

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omnitricksOP•

You know your statements are contradicting one another right?

I don't even powergame because it usually never worth the time in quick hippie rounds. Literally I only had det starting gear and had to get cablecuffs from storage to catch the CE first time round. I only had the shotgun at the second because I followed the captain into the armoury.

Not to mention actual robust people use the game mechanics to one up their opponents. Not break the rules and then rely on their admin connections to be "robust" as you want to put it.

Of course I wasn't the head in question. I was the member of sec who put the head which broke into the high security place you referred to and slapped the consequence on him with the blessing of the captain.

Not sure what is the point you are trying to make here.

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ChaznoodlesSpacedust Crusader•

Head hurty too early

Having adminned hippie, I can say that their only admin connection is their shared dislike of each other.

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omnitricksOP•

And lol still wrong. Whats up with you head?

I was the detective. I caught the admin CE who broke into the captain's room and stole the sword.

Admin CE later on killed me during his break out from perma as a non antag. Other admins defend his actions despite the clear breach of rules.

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ChaznoodlesSpacedust Crusader•

I’m just going to go ahead and put a sock in my mouth, thankies

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WarRage•

Unrelated to this are you the guy that got banned from making ban requests because you post like 5 a day when someone stubbed your toe

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Waterwater1212•

no that was yohibodazine

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punkinguyCE is literally the strongest job•

please go bitch in the forums, not reddit,

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TheRealSir_Castic•

It's pretty clear that he's come here because he's being unjustly ignored on the forums.

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LemiwinkstheThirdMoyai Messenger•

but he did it twice and it still didn’t work.

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Turret_Drehturm•

Stop whining about this. You got denied twice and you've been told it's IC so much already.

Going over to reddit to, in fact, intentionally lie about almost ALL of the facts to get someone pity on you isn't good and shouldn't be accepted.Announcing how admins are bad on this server because you got denied in your ban request isn't good either.

Don't be so childish and yell to everyone about it and try to resolve it peacefully and mature.

(hurr durr admins are bad the ban request didn't go my way!!!!!!!!!!!)

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TheRealSir_Castic•

Turret you're kind of the asshole in this, we're not supporting you

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Daman453Infected by Space AID's•

Pull logs and let the truth be truth. Otherwise, no one can be declared "right"

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omnitricksOP•

Lol you lot can't even rebut anything I said other than the usual admin swill to fuck off with "IC" when they never want to explain themselves and, you admins keep switching on what to say to whatever they think can get you, one of them, out of this.

Its quite obvious who is lying here and I'm positive it isn't me at the very least.

You should have gotten a ban. Any other player would have gotten a ban. The only difference between the latter and you is that you are an admin hence the need to bring your corruption to light.

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PhdCowboyPresident•

Check out the massive brain on this guy

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omnitricksOP•

Oh wait, aren't you the self antagging shit who started all this? You know, the non antag who decided ti use his all access to release everyone from perma fnr?

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