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[B&W Spoiler] Syanna wasn't lying about her dreams

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Just finished my first playthrough of blood and wine and I had a thought. What if Syanna wasnt lying about her dreams being prophetic, but rather just wasnt clear on what happened in them (and when). Both of the events mentioned, the murder of the brother and the bloody decapitations ended up happening, just a bit differently than originally expected.

My theory is that due to the confusing nature of dreams, she messed up on which brother would end up killing which, and also didnt know that her actions would be the catalyst for it. Her bloody nightmares were the future where Detlaff sends vampires to terrorize Beauclair and the ensuing bloodbath.

If the Curse of the Black Sun is real in the Witcher world, then maybe it's the curse of self-fulfilling prophecies rather than of evil (and of course the stigma of being labelled a cursed child)

Posted May 15, 2019, 5:22 PM UTC

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In The Last Wish Geralt says that Black Sun curse is a fallacy, and Stregobor admits that his accusation of Renfri had a political background.

It's been a long time since I played B & W, but wasn't only the one nightmare that Syanna mentioned, made-up? The rest were just nightmares, and none of them came true.

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Its kinda hard to tell, he says he thinks it's a superstition, but there may be some truth to it he just doubts it. And there were two brought up, that one was claimed to be a prank by others (no comment from syanna) and the other was from the drawing she gave to her governess of the decapitated bodies. The only other thing stated about the nightmares was that only her sister could calm her

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If you really want to understand the situation, you first have to realize that everything is a story Sapkovski thought up, and that he has his own style and way of doing things, and also realize that although CDPR is not Sapkovski, that they are borrowing from Sapkovski, they had to inherit some of Sapkovski's style, or risk breaking character.

Sapkovski is in many ways, very straight forward. If he shows someone to have a characteristic, he means it, and doesn't come back later and say, "haha, you just though that character was like that, bc I didn't present you with his true essence, but now I am". He might show you more depth later -- and often does -- but characters don't suddenly go from benevolent to evil without extensive warning.

The originator of the Curse of the Black Sun is the mage Eltibald and the curse is also know as The Mania of Mad Eltibald, and that is a major clue right there. Also, all real curses in the books have some depth to them, some back-story and cause. The infamous striga Geralt fights in The Witcher trailer and in The Last Wish is the daughter of King Foltest and his sister Adda. Because Adda has become pregnant by Foltest she cannot marry someone to whom she was promised -- I don't recall who -- who then has a curse put on Adda and the baby, or just the unborn baby. At birth Adda and the baby die and are buried together. Seven years later the baby awakes as a striga. So there is much depth to the curse and how it comes about, not just some mamby-pamby '60 girls born during or shortly after an eclipse will cause the downfall of man" because.... ummmm... reasons, of maybe none; yeah---no, if Sapkovski meant that to be a real curse, he would have fleshed it out with a lot more back-story.

That Syanna's lie about dreaming that one of the two brothers would kill the other, would actually bring one of the brothers to actually do it, is simply a tragedy. You need only tell the right brother of any of numerous pairs of brothers, one who is gullible enough and stupid enough to believe it and act on it, to repeat the tragedy. That's not a curse, it's simple statistics. Children do and say cruel things sometimes. They do not understand the gravity of the meaning of what they say, only that it is mean. That doesn't mean they are evil or cursed, just children.

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