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Fuzzyk

"I won’t be putting my hand up for the leadership of the Australian Labor Party this time around." Jim Chalmers

politics

Posted May 23, 2019, 2:01 AM UTC

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palsc5•

Albo it is then. Seems like their wasn't much drama for News corp to make a fuss about but no doubt they will

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onigiri_smile•

They have been, the right found on r/auspol have been eating it up lol

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tightassbogan•

Yes.but nor has the party had a say.

Its all backroom patty dealings.

Now the alp memebers just get told..this is who u get

Its not very democractic

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santaschesthairs•

True, it would be nice for them to have a say. In all fairness though, Labor members picked Albo in the last ballot and were actually overridden by the party to pick Shorten.

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santaschesthairs•

Yeah, oops, fixed.

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tightassbogan•

ALP membership who voted for Albo to be leader last time around but instead got stuck with Shorten because of backroom wheeling and dealing.

So.

Uhh yeah my point exactly?.

Albos been chosen due to backroom wheeling and dealing.

much like we got saddled with shorten,we have now been saddled with albo with no say in it.

He while is very good in a room,leans to far left for labor to have a chance against the LNP next election.

Labor will need to move to centrist doctrine policy and focus on jobs and QLD if it wants to win the election

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XenaGemTrek•

Labor didn’t lose by that much. If they believe climate change is real, they should stick with policies that address it, otherwise they become Liberal Light. Labor’s central platform is long-term jobs and fairness in equality and opportunity. Just because Queensland and WA have caught Dutch Disease is no reason to change the core of their beliefs.

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insty1•

Best thing for Labor was to have a clean transition.

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res_ipsa_redditor•

So backroom deals it is then!

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Fenixius•

Its backroom dealings or an out and out conflict. There's no way to win this.

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eigenscape•

Nah. Having a contest is good.

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pmmesomedonutss•

Is it though? There has never been an opposition leader who’s served a full term then became PM.

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FuzzykOP•

One candidate with the support of both factions is exactly what Labor needs right now. Hopefully they can rebuild their image over the next 3 years.

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If shorten wasn’t leading labor, if this happened three years ago, then they would have aced this election.

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amaarcoan•

How long before main stream media start the Albo character assassinations?

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augustm•

it's already started. Campbell Newman--the walking shambles who lost government with a record-breaking swing against him after only one term--was on the radio already sneering about Albo "the divorcee". Utter, utter fuckwit.

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Commander_Wario•

One time Campbell Newman was scheduled to appear on 2GB at 7pm with Steve Price.

He was a no show, because he forgot about daylight savings. Classic Newman.

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hoilst•

"Oi, listen, mate, I'm not gonna show up on NSW time because it'll confuse the curtains and fade the cows."

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Lankpants•

It's going to happen, but at least Albo should be a hell of a lot more resilient to it than Shorten was. There's a lot less dirt on him and he's generally just a lot more likeable so I doubt the media onslaught will have as bad of an effect on him as it did on Shorten.

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xyrgh•

He's also:

  1. Not a unionist
  2. Didn't have any involvement in the knifing of Rudd and Gillard, other than voting.
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mrwellfed•

About the worst thing he has done is getting caught out going to a rub and tug...

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noiplahg'day•

From what I remember from seeing him in question time a while back he's also a pretty good orator, and has a decently quick wit which should give some really good parliament sound bites

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MobileInfantry•

Probably happening on Sky as we speak.

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metao•

I thought I was a politics wonk but I've literally never heard of Jim Chalmers.

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squonge•

He was Labor's campaign spokesman. Rudd notoriously refers to him as a cry baby in his memoir.

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IntellectualBogan•

Why do pots and kettles suddenly come to mind.

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BTechUnited•

Rudd notoriously refers to him as a cry baby in his memoir.

I'm assuming Chalmers is an alright guy then.

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dg84photos•

Probably know him better as Super Nintendo Chalmers.

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daybeforetheday•

TIL: His first name is Gary

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WillyHarden•

maybe the fifth time I've read this hilarious joke and it just keeps getting funnier!

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MalooFury•

Im pretty sure he was on Insiders a couple times.

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Evadregand•

And post election QandA

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terminal2k•

wasn't he the superintendent

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bPhrea•

Samesies.

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LightReflections•

Lol at people who think the average punter gives a shit about "how left" a politician is. They want a likeable personality and Albo is that man.

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monda•

To right, if there is one thing that was made crystal clear after this election, the Australian public does not care about policy or corruption, it’s all about how likeable the leader is.

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LordWalderFrey1•

Good thing that isn't getting drawn out. Still I hope this bloke gets a bigger role in Parliament. He's a talent for the future.

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santaschesthairs•

Hoping he gets (edit: considered for) deputy. Though I think Penny deserves it too.

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squonge•

Penny will remain as leader in the senate.

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santaschesthairs•

Looks like Clare O'Neil is considering going for deputy too. I think an Albo/O'Neil combo would be good.

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squonge•

I wouldn't hate that. I wonder if Bowen will stay on as Shadow Treasurer or will it go to Chalmers? I would move Bowen to Home Affairs and promote Andrew Leigh to Finance.

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Lozzif•

It will be a woman. Having two white guys as leader and deputy won’t happen.

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santaschesthairs•

Good point. I hope that happens, but I'm not sure it will, unfortunately. Wong and Plibersek are the obvious choices but are both from the left faction, and the party tradition is one left faction, one right faction in leadership roles. They might pick a completely unexpected deputy to shake things up, here's hoping.

Edit: Clare O'Neil is considering going for deputy!!

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aldoniusBrissie•

I wonder what sort of front bench role he'll get as payoff? It better be good, Labor need a Queenslander with profile and appeal.

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Apparently he wants treasury.

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NoesHowe2Spel•

Shadow Foreign Affairs is my guess. He has an educational background in that. Or maybe Agriculture, since he has some educational background in animal husbandry, too.

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Zushin•

If this election has taught us anything it’s that Australians don’t give one modicum of a fuck about policy detail and that likeability is everything. Albo is very likeable so I think he’s a very good choice.

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elad04•

But Scott Morrison isn’t likeable at all 🤷‍♂️

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Zushin•

Heh, I don’t think so either but he was more likeable than Bill according to the public :s

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Joshtopher_Biggins•

So who is this "Elbow" guy anyway? And what dirt does he have on everyone else in the party?

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sphinx80•

Welp, there goes QLD support for the next election.

No inner city lefty is going to have an easy time there.

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sixteen_weasels•

Albo actually knows footy though as opposed to ScoMo who only pretends to like it.

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ieatkittentails•

The Daily Telegraph LOVE Albo, I'm still not sure how that happened.

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martyoz•

They have been pushing for Albo for years. He is the Libs best bet. Now Rupert gets his man because the Left still believe everything he writes. Tragically unelectable.

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Fit_Protection•

Ah yeh a Sydneyite from Newtown should broaden the appeal.

Being a Catholic might help though.

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RomanticforByron•

Well, weirdly, most people I know on the left (we are talking people who choose between Green and Labor each election) don’t like Albo at all. It could actually prove to be a divisive move because he doesn’t represent the younger generation of leftists but he is also still inner city.

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SlaughterRain•

RIP Labor next election too then.

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Guess it will be LNP forever land.

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santaschesthairs•

I'm no optimist, but don't be so sure. Albo's appeal hasn't been properly tested in the electorate yet.

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sphinx80•

It's not Albo specifically. It's his stereotype. A syd/mel inner city lefty is not going to appeal to the parts of the country that Labor are currently lacking.

At least, not without significant effort and a new strategy.

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santaschesthairs•

He grew up raised by a single mother in a housing commission. He doesn't fit the stereotype.

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sphinx80•

Sure, but he is also from the Labor left faction in the seat of Grayndler. Located in the inner part of Sydney.

If he doesn't fit that stereotype, then no one does.

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LordWalderFrey1•

He's from the inner city, but he's the old school inner city back when it was blue-collar and working class, not posh and trendy. He appeals to progressive types enough to keep the Greens at bay in his seat, but he's a relic of the older inner city.

He'll go down well in outer suburban seats. Regional Australia is the big question.

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Brosley•

Honestly, if he has appeal in the inner city and the suburbs, Labor can win without the regions. There aren’t all that many winnable country seats for Labor anyway.

It’s not ideal, but it is definitely achievable.

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FibroMan•

A stereotypical Queenslander is not going to appeal to Melbournites and Sydney siders. You can't compete against Barnaby Joyce in Queensland, so Queensland will vote against Labor even with a Queenslander as leader. Pandering to Queensland just because they are fickle is a waste of time. Labor need to forget about Queensland and attack the Liberals on their economic mismanagement.

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DarKnightofCydonia•

Christ I guess we can't elect anyone from Sydney or Melbourne again ever, and just bow down to Queensland. It's more about the strategy than just pandering to certain parts of the country. Labor's campaign in 2016 was extremely negative and they nearly won it. If they did the same this time they could've won. I personally prefer positive campaigning but without a solid marketing campaign behind it, energy and a slogan that sticks (Kevin 07, Yes We Can) it doesn't work.

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pukkateaspill•

Too bad.... He is so fuckable and looks like he is packing it downstairs....

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