Why do some women pretend to be virgins to get with guys?

It's completely idiotic. The guy is going to find out sooner or later, that she is not a virgin. It's not rocket science. He just has to fuck her and he will know the truth, right away, at least in most cases. And then he is going to look at her like she is a lying sack of shit. And basically, see every word that comes out of her mouth from that point on, as a lie. Because once you get caught lying to someone, you are done. Because your reputation is ruined, forever in that person's eyes. So she is not going to get any commitment from him unless he has brain damage or something. Because he just caught her lying to him... Yeah, of course, she can say something like, she broke her hymen in the past while doing this or that... And that could be the truth for some women. It is possible. But unless she is the sporty athletic type, he's going to suspect he's been BSed... So if he sees her as a liar or even suspects he's been BSed then obviously he is not going be interested in a serious relationship with her anymore. It's just common sense. Perhaps she even broke it by doing some hardcore masturbating in the past(which doesn't paint a very nice picture of her) but he is still going to suspect he's been BSed especially considering we don't live in the 1800s but in the 21st century...

 

Even the dumbest guys on the planet, know they can't lie to women when it comes to the size of their penis, right? You can't tell a woman you have a 12 inch thunder cock and sometimes, you have a hard time walking straight because it's so big to get her interested in you and then pull out an average sized penis on her or an even smaller penis, later on... That would be an epic fail. She will just get really mad, leave and probably make fun of you... So even the dumbest guys on this planet, don't lie about that kind of stuff. They know better. There are things you can lie about in life and there are things you can't lie about... A dude can say, he fucked 50 women in the past when he only fucked 20 women and never get caught... A woman can say, she only fucked 5 guys in the past when she has fucked 50 guys in the past and never get caught(unless the guy she is with, does some serious detective work). Because it's possible to find out about a woman's actual past if you know how to do the work. But it's impossible to find out about a guy's past, if he just made up a BS number that is much higher than his actual number to look more like a Chad because technically then, there is no past. So even if a woman digs into his past, there is nothing to find so she will never know the truth. LOL

 

But really, the best policy when it comes to dealing with someone is being 100% honest. People respect honesty. It shows people you aren't completely a shitbag. And plenty of blue pill dudes will commit to a woman who is honest about her past and tells him she had sex with 20 or 30 or 40 or 50 guys in the past. Because he doesn't know better due to never having swallowed the red pill. But if she pretends to be a virgin and then gets caught by a blue pill dude, then that is going to be a deal breaker for him because she lied to him. Even blue pilled dudes don't want to be with a liar. Because this blue pill society still sees lying as something bad. So why the fuck would she pretend to be a virgin? Most dudes in this world are blue pilled... She only has X amount of time on this Earth to find a man who will marry her, have kids with her(so she can get child support) and stick around for 10 years so she can get that alimony for life. Her primary objective should not be getting dick... That makes no sense. She doesn't even have to get dick because one will always be on the table for her, just lying around... She doesn't have to worry about getting dick, ever in life. If she wants to strike gold, she needs to acquire commitment from a man of value.

 

So I find this really confusing because women are supposed to be good at lying... They are supposed to be good at being sneaky... They are supposed to be good at manipulating men... So WTF is going on with these women? Are they just a small percentage of women who are dumber than the average woman? Because you aren't a good liar and you aren't sneaky if you tell a lie that can easily be caught as a lie later on... In order to be a good liar, you have to tell a lie that can not cause any suspicion whatsoever, down the road. And I've heard stories of some women pretending to be a virgin, then marrying a hardcore religious guy and then he finds out right after the marriage during the honeymoon and goes berserk... So what was she thinking? No man would ever do something that idiotic. Like trick a woman into marrying him by pretending to be rich or some shit etc. That lie only works for men when it comes to one night stands(it's illegal in some parts of the world so be careful). Let's say, one day I transformed into a woman one day who isn't a virgin due to some magic spell... I would never pretend to be a virgin. I would pretend to have only had sex with one or two previous guys... So no man of value will discover I'm a liar and won't even suspect I'm a liar. And I would never get caught unless the dude is like Sherlock Holmes. And that would be my tactic every time because I don't want waste time, hit the wall and end up doomed to live a shitty life... A fool who squandered a billion dollars when it comes to looks. So I'm asking you MGTOWs even though MGTOWs don't really care about women being a virgin or not because we aren't interested in relationships in the first place but unlike all the blue pill dudes and purple pill dudes on reddit, you guys are knowledgeable about the real world. So I have no choice but to post this here.

Posted May 24, 2019, 12:04 AM UTC · edited

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ParalyticPoison•

Because female virginity has value (in the sexual market place), just like youth and beauty.

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InvertedBarrels•

They know it and they hate it. They shout at the top of their lungs that it is not the case, all for wishful thinking, perhaps hoping to nag away the biological imperative.

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ParalyticPoison•

If you are too foolish to invest your entirely front loaded pile of money that biology has given you (in the case of women) and instead of wisely investing for the long-term, you go for short-term chemical highs and waste your short window, I feel no sympathy for you.

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deathtocontrollersOP•

So if I inherited a billion dollars from my father and spent it all on stupid shit and became homeless, you wouldn't feel sorry for me? MISOGYNY! /S

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deathtocontrollersOP•

A good looking guy with a huge dick and a lot of $$$ has value too but you don't see guys pretending to be that guy if they aren't that guy because they will instantly get caught.

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deathtocontrollersOP•

I know but there is no point in pretending to have such value if you don't...

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ParalyticPoison•

Why would a used car dealer lie about how good a car that he is trying to sell you? Even if it was not the truth, at the end of the day, people will lie if they think it will benefit them and they won't have any punishment for being caught or don't think they will be caught.

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A girl lying about being a virgin has almost not reason not to in our current western society, there is no punishment besides possible shame, but they could always just use the "I was raped defense" anyway.

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deathtocontrollersOP•

A girl lying about being a virgin has almost not reason not to in our current western society, there is no punishment besides possible shame, but they could always just use the "I was raped defense" anyway.

Dude, our society is so gynocentric and morally bankrupt, she doesn't have to give a shit about what men think when it comes to her virginity... How many men out there who will only settle for virgins? Not many. And a lot of those guys end up going MGTOW because they realize, they can never get what they want so they say fuck it and walk away, because they refuse to settle for table scraps. But guys like that are becoming extinct or already left the Western world to take part in some holy quest for virgins so they can have a normal traditional life(a foolish quest, I know). It has come to a point in this society where if she pretends to be a virgin, she will just be making her life difficult.

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deathtocontrollersOP•

It makes sense for a used car dealer because once you buy a piece of shit car from him, you are stuck with it and he has your $$$ so when you discover the truth, there is nothing you can do. And his mission is to just make easy $$$. But if a man finds out, she was just pretending to be a virgin, then no more commitment for her because he is going to dump her ass. And if a man is a hardcore religious type who marries first, he can divorce her ass right away or get the marriage annulled. So really, she is just wasting time. Because what benefits her the most is getting a man to commit to her before she hits the wall...

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ParalyticPoison•

With how many thirsty men there are out there, you would be surprised how few would actually take that as a red-flag and get the hell out of that situation.

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Felinaaa•

So you’re saying it’s common for women to lie about their virginity to multiple guys over and over again?? Do people actually do that??

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ParalyticPoison•

Yeah, women are parasitic creatures, manipulation and lying are a part of their nature if they can get away with it. Good luck proving that any of these whores are not virgins to the cucks they lie to about it, unless you have seen a lot of roast beef sandwiches, it might be difficult to tell.

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FreedomReclaimed•

It has “value” but I have no idea why. I fucked one virgin in my life. Worst lay ever.

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deathtocontrollersOP•

I highly doubt she was a virgin. She just didn't have a gigantic pussy but sucked in bed. There's sluts out there, who banged like 100s of guys and they still suck in bed... I remember, a friend of mine, told me, while fucking such a slut, he didn't realize, he was watching a movie that was on TV next to his bed almost the entire time... And I knew her past very well because my sister was friends with her. This was around the year 2000. Back then, females like her developed a reputation. Sluts weren't shamed back then, but they weren't really tolerated either... Back then, even strange dudes would give you a warning if you entered into a relationship with such a woman if they knew her very well. If there were women around, they would let you know via semi cryptic sentences and strange looks letting you know you are a fool to avoid get bitched at by all the women. And if there weren't any women around they would just tell you.

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ParalyticPoison•

Once you fucked a pocket pussy, you now know what sex with a real meat curtain is like, guess what though, the pocket pussy is usually a better lay, also less smell.

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FreedomReclaimed•

PLUS, it wont get clingy or bother you. Lol

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deathtocontrollersOP•

All women will get clingy and bother you, from virgins to women who have fucked hundreds of different men if she finds you attractive. But eventually she will get bored and then she will disappear as if she was just a figment of your imagination.

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deathtocontrollersOP•

Once you fucked a pocket pussy, you now know what sex with a real meat curtain is like, guess what though, the pocket pussy is usually a better lay, also less smell.

I've had sex with all types of vaginas and never encountered any bad smell. But of course, if she is loose past a certain point, you aren't going to feel anything unless you have a 12 inch monster penis. And I don't have such a penis, so it was definitely boring while fucking those types. I've encountered women who smelled bad down there but I avoided them like the plague. It's nature's way of letting you know, she has a yeast infection(contagious to men too) or something like that.

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I-am-the-lul•

If a woman over the age of 18 claims to a virgin and hasn't used that fact to lock down a husband before her 25th, she's an idiot.

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deathtocontrollersOP•

I agree, if she actually is a virgin... The problem is, most women flush their virginity down the toilet before the age of 18... So they can't use the virgin card anymore. It's like trying to use the "I'm not a single mom." card when they have a kid back home... YET they still try... Yeah, they can keep the BS going for some time but it's just a waste of time. Someone needs to tell these dumb bitches to stop resisting reality... Because you can't... "I'm not going to believe in gravity anymore because I don't like it!" *jumps off a cliff, realizes gravity still exists...* OR maybe this is the result of narcissism? Like she thinks she is so awesome, no man can resist putting a ring on her even after he discovers the truth. But that is also resisting reality... Soy boy cucks still see honesty as a virtue. Maybe in the future, they wont because they will be taught that valuing honesty is misogynistic but women don't have all the time in the world.

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I-am-the-lul•

Some will use the Catholic School Girl method and remain virgins while doing loads of oral and anal sex.

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deathtocontrollersOP•

The all religions in the world girl method, including Islam, unfortunately...

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NathanHollister•

They say it because they know their value is higher if they have had fewer partners. They know that if a man thinks she is a virgin, he's likely to not only value her as a partner more, but work harder (waaay harder) for the puss. This means she can extract more resources from you before she puts out.

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deathtocontrollersOP•

This means she can extract more resources from you before she puts out.

So they just do that to get more stuff before they put out? But what if the guy expects her to put out after like a week or two or three? A lot of guys expect it, sooner. What kind of guy is going to just wait for her to put out for a long period of time? And what kind of guy lets a woman have his resources if she doesn't put out?

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NathanHollister•

Most guys won't wait a long time. But if she says she is a virgin, a blue pill man will wait much longer, and they will take her on datea and buy chocolate and flowers and jewelry hoping to get some tight virgin puss. And about 75% of men are BP. Ffs, lots of guys throw money at camwhores who they will NEVER get to fuck.

For example, when I was a virgin (I was also blue pill at the time), I met my first GF. She made me wait about 2 months, and I was so desperate that I did it. She actually was a virgin, but it's never worth the wait. However, BP guys don't know it's not worth the wait, because they believe what society tells them, that since she is virgin she must be NAWALT

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deathtocontrollersOP•

Most guys won't wait a long time. But if she says she is a virgin, a blue pill man will wait much longer, and they will take her on datea and buy chocolate and flowers and jewelry hoping to get some tight virgin puss. And about 75% of men are BP. Ffs, lots of guys throw money at camwhores who they will NEVER get to fuck.

Man, I didn't know blue pill guys became so foolish... Back in my day, blue pill guys knew that if you didn't score by X amount of time, then it's not worth it and she doesn't really find you attractive so you should just move on... Because as a blue pill guy, let's say, in the past, you were always able to fuck a woman who showed signs she was into you on the first or second date... Then suddenly you come across a woman, who is denying you access... "It's like WTF. That doesn't make sense. She is basically just leading me on... Playing games with me. Because she doesn't think I'm good enough for her. Fuck this shit..." Because females start playing these fucking games, the second they are teenagers with all the boys in school, she is not really attracted to... So by the time the boys are around 18, they know when they are just being toyed with... Because they've already be toyed with, like 100 times.

For example, when I was a virgin (I was also blue pill at the time), I met my first GF. She made me wait about 2 months, and I was so desperate that I did it. She actually was a virgin, but it's never worth the wait. However, BP guys don't know it's not worth the wait, because they believe what society tells them, that since she is virgin she must be NAWALT

Unfortunately, if a female is a virgin today, she is just a female who is waiting in line for the CC ride. Perhaps a 1% chance of being a NAWALT.

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NathanHollister•

Guys don't think logically anymore. I'm not sure what caused it, but the simps get more simpy over time.

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Gibits•

Because it works

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deathtocontrollersOP•

Yeah, until the guy fucks her on the first or second date and goes, wait a second, something is not right here...

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cycloneous•

Why do some women pretend to be virgins to get with guys?

Because no self-respecting man would want to be with a woman who has been with two football teams before she's 25!

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deathtocontrollersOP•

Because no self-respecting man

Not many of us exist nowadays. The average guy today, doesn't really care as long as her dick count is between 1 and 10. And a woman could easily just lie and say her dick count is 3 or 4 etc... And never get caught as a liar... So why would she pretend to be a virgin and risk getting caught? Why risk losing the perfect prey when you don't have to?

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Blackphish88•

They think (often correctly) that even after thr reveal the man will stay for A) pussy and or B) He'll feel too guilty to leave her over it.

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deathtocontrollersOP•

If the guy stays for the pussy though, then he is just staying for the pussy and that's it... The second he finds a woman who isn't a lying slut in his eyes, he will be gone. And are there really women who think a guy will feel too guilty to leave her after he discovered she is a liar? What kind of super simp doesn't leave a woman who lied to him because he will feel guilty afterwards?

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Blackphish88•

I've had guys say "Dude I'd feel like such a dick/bitch/loser for dumping her over this. I mean its not that big a deal she's not really a virgin". Ignore that she lied and will do so again and has now seen him as weak and gullible.

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deathtocontrollersOP•

I guess I didn't realize, how pathetic men have become recently. Back in my day, if a dude caught his woman lying to him like that, the relationship would be finished.

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jstrockmeyer•

And basically, see every word that comes out of her mouth from that point on, as a lie. Because once you get caught lying to someone, you are done. Because your reputation is ruined, forever in that person's eyes.

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Boy, do I know that.... Spot on, my friend! It's impossible by itself, even less when redpilled, every try at gaslight just buries you even deeper.

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deathtocontrollersOP•

Logic should tell them, they fucked up and it's time to move on, but no... The gas lighting must commence!

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DangZagnut•

There is no such thing as a virgin, that's an old timey myth. No such creature exists.

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deathtocontrollersOP•

They did exist a long time ago, in certain societies. Probably became rare in the early 1900s especially in North America and in Europe due to technology, making it easier for women to travel(she can leave her small town with a population of 100 and hang out in the big cities) and due to too many men being forced to fight in wars...therefore unable to keep an eye on their daughters...

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cyndonn66•

Females lie out of weakness. Ever lied on a resume?

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deathtocontrollersOP•

Yeah but I never wrote down, ex Navy Seal, ex Green Beret, rock star and porn star. And that's really no different than a woman writing down "virgin" in today's world...

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