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Why does semen turn into rubber cement in the shower?

I'm not ashamed to say that I've had my share of shower wanks, but what gets me every time is how my baby batter quickly turns into the strongest adhesive known to man. Don't get that shit in your happy trail, because it's never coming out.

Anyways, I was curious as to the scientific principles behind it. I'm assuming it has to do with the water washing away the liquid parts leaving only the cement behind? That's just my guess though. Thoughts? Stories?

Posted Jun 6, 2010, 1:54 PM UTC

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remediality•

This is actually a really interesting phenomenon. It's called Semolysis and it's one of those remnants of evolution that is no longer useful. Like goosebumps. Or charity. Semen is designed to harden in water, but when combined with the enzymes in saliva, it is much more effective.

Early proto-humans would use a liberal mixture of semen and saliva, presumably working in groups, to coat pregnant women in a sort of tough, flexible shell that would help hide their scent and protect them from predators in the very vulnerable weeks leading up to childbirth.

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spitonpigeons•

This is the strangest thing I've read all week......

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PenName•

It's definitely strange. It's also not true. Hopefully, this is the top comment because people find it funny and not because they think it's the right answer.

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MeldingPlague•

I will now proceed to accept it as fact.

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Mr_Tulip•

I will now proceed to add this to the wikipedia article on semen, then add the post as a citation. Since nobody actually looks at citations, it will become fact.

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warabo•

Me too.

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qkoexz•

<Jamie>Well there's your problem.</Jamie>

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VulturE•

I will now proceed to accept it as fap.

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remediality•

I know this is not easy for some of you to swallow, but bear with me.

It's an emerging theory that still has a fair number of holes, but I think shows a lot of promise. It's exciting because it's so interdisciplinary - but you can imagine how hard it is to get a paleoanthropologist and an evolutionary biologist in the same room to discuss "allogeneic prepartal seminal cocoons." It's challenging to figure out what to put in the subject of that email.

A good place to start is "Hominoid seminal protein evolution and ancestral mating behavior" by Carnahan and Jensen-Seaman (I know, right?). They were the first ones to discuss (in passing) the coagulation of semen as a product - rather than a byproduct of evolution. And they briefly explore its very specific activation by enzymes in saliva, and the evolutionary implications of such.

It's no surprise that hardened semen doesn't hold up for 500,000 years very well. Much of the research is based on trace analysis of the preserved remains of early hominids that died childbirth (there aren't many). Some of the more fringy-er in the community think that the practice may have survived in a ritualized fashion until up to the end of the last ice age, based on some, in my mind, questionable interpretations of cave paintings.

Frustratingly, the evidence is hard to come by, and it's not surprising that few institutions are interested in funding such research. And much of the research that is being done on the subject is in Japanese. But I think in five or ten years - especially if we can find a partially fossilized seminal cocoon - you'll see this mentioned in more mainstream sources.

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totallyseparate•

I know this is not easy for some of you to swallow, but bear with me.

I see what you did there...

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geoman69•

Your citation has perhaps led us down the path to truth:

The degree of semen coagulation and the formation of a copulatory plug are also correlated with the degree of female promiscuity in primates [Dixson & Anderson, 2002]. A copulatory plug is a firm coagulation of semen, which presumably serves to physically block subsequent males from achieving fertilization; among hominoids copulatory plugs are found only in chimpanzees and bonobos [Dixson, 1998b; Dixson & Anderson, 2002; Tinklepaugh, 1930].

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phongbong•

Are you telling me that bukkake is a natural human occurrence and we should all partake?! And here I always the the Japanese where just fuckin' weird.

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sofaking812•

A good place to start is "Hominoid seminal protein evolution and ancestral mating behavior" by Carnahan and Jensen-Seaman

I'm not ashamed to admit that I did google that.

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DodgyCheese•

upvote semen cacoon

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thejedisentinel•

And much of the research that is being done on the subject is in Japanese.

After reading that 'Semen Omelette' bit up there, I think I understand why it's the Japanese that are doing most of the research on this subject...

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parkman47•

You're right, the goosebumps thing is totally still useful

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obviousstatement•

It got my vote because it is on the internet, therefore it cannot be false.

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Confucius_says•

Damn I've already told this to everybody I know and told them it is fact.

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InAFewWords•

I have videos of reenactments if anyone wants a link

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buzzkill

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FunnyMan3595•

It's only "top", not "best". Under "best", it's wa-a-a-ay down the page. If you want the accurate comment first, change your sort.

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lechatcestmoi•

Have you ever heard the phrase "nobody likes a smart alec"?

The idea of it being vestigial like goosebumps or charity was added lols.

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Smight•

You really want a source for something that didn't happen? Really?

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miiiiiiiik•

It might warrant an experiment

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sonicatrocities•

You have earned your Making Shit Up merit badge.

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Merit•

*Arrives with the badge*

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danman183•
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happybadger•

I'm here. What the fuck do you want?

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jook11•

We don't need no steenkin badgers!

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sonicatrocities•
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subtextual•

The force with which I want one of these has surprised me.

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ThinkBeforeYouDie•

Pleeease, stop badgering me about making more bad badger badges.

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firestar27•

Redditor for 1 year. Kudos. 8-)

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johnylaw•

He has provided evidence supporting his claim. So we have to take it back and award the "Strangest bit of semen knowledge."

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themysteriousx•

Well played, you had me going right up till the second paragraph.

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nascentt•

So the word Semolysis didn't tip you off, or "...that is no longer useful. Like ... charity"?

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afinalsunset732•

Oh yea, I heard about that coating ritual. It was mainly used in Eastern Asian nations. I believe they called it "Bukake".

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sidepart•

Yes yes, I've heard of this. It's very traditional to them even though humans have evolved long beyond the need for it. I've seen quite a few documentaries on the subject.

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c_vic•

Is this really true? That's fascinating, and disgusting.

Edit: Fuckity Fuck Fuck

Edit: FFS people, maybe I fell for a joke, but why downvote me?

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flail•

It's well written bullshit. Look up semolysis.

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c_vic•

Well now I'm really disappointed.

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lowrads•

Indeed, it's not semolysis but rather semynthesis.

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nilhilustfrederi•

no

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CroqueMonsieur•

I can't decide whether to lol or wtf. And without a helpful username to guide me, I MIGHT NEVER KNOW.

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GrandKittah•

You are so damn tasty.

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constipated_HELP•

This is like a weird version of the dwarves from Artemis Fowl.

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[deleted]•

I don't remember the dwarves covering each other in semen.

Then again it's been so many years.

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LukeTheAlright•

There was something in there about layering saliva on their heads to form a hard shell and headbutting stuff.

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prionattack•

Just imagine what dwarf semen would do, if the saliva is rock-hard...

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Harold76•

Hence why it's a weird version of dwarves from Artemis Fowl series.

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lrvolle•

WTF? I'm reading the eternity code right now.

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terafunker•

The fuck?

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thefresher•

you should play balderdash sometime

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[deleted]•

If you Google for "coagulation of semen", the first link is "Coagulation of semen in testicles". Now I'll have to check my semen for signs of coagulation for the next few weeks, until I forget about this link. And then when I've forgotten about it someone will submit a Wikipedia article or YouTube video on Reddit of something even more gruesome the next day, and I'll click on it because I'll think: "How horrifying can it be?".

TIL...

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dallen•

Are you John Hodgman?

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reticulate•

I officially lost it at "Or charity."

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[deleted]•

I read right past the "Or charity" part and didn't realize he was screwing around until the second paragraph

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[deleted]•

How exactly did we find that out?

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uw2012•

Wow... Just wow.

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chirpchirp•

Baby batter indeed.

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TheTreeMan•

The birth of bukakke?

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[deleted]•

This is basically saying that Bukkake actually has an evolutionary point.

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Thelonesomemoo•

what was the use of goosebumps?

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[deleted]•

Humans are descended from geese, the goosebumps are where the feathers used to sprout from. Now goosebumps are pretty useless, similar to the liver.

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Thelonesomemoo•

i declare that to be bullshit.

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[deleted]•

nah the guy seems legit

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munkiman•

lolnot

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randomb0y•

And why would that be no longer be useful?

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[deleted]•

Someone should start a Wikipedia article on Semolysis and add this comment as a reference. Apparently, Reddit has been accepted as a reliable source on Wikipedia before.

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lechatcestmoi•

Could you make a wikipedia entry of this phenomenon?

It would be so ace to be present at the birth of an urban myth.

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[deleted]•

Bukkake?!?

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mitsouko•

I love you.

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[deleted]•

I like you. I really do.

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whychromosome•

The Japanese have a name for it.

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nooneinparticular•

Srsly?

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whychromosome•

The technical term is "bukakke."

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chipthemonk•

Do you want to be my partner in Balderdash?

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JohnnyBeagle•

I think I heard this on Cheers from Cliff Clavin

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anth0424•

I can't tell if you just made that shit up or learned it in some anthro-biology class.

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[deleted]•

Dude, you should play Balderdash.

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Aqualung90•

BDS- Bukkake Defense System.

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Redebo•

Perhaps the male infacuation with the 'facial' has it's roots in this bygone evolutionary practice?

"Oh dearest? I'm going to need you to take it on the chin tonight. It is my way of providing you a protective coating. Of love!"

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norwhale•

I googled Semolysis and this post came up first. Well done sir!

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phongbong•

Hell yes!

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vildo12•

Or charity.

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pillage•

well that is rather nonsexual and silly.

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EthicalReasoning•

bukake is all part of evolution

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Duc_de_Nevers•

Early proto-humans would use a liberal mixture of semen and saliva…

So when a girl refuses to swallow…

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HeIsMyPossum•

Maybe this is why my friend's girlfriend says she can't swallow...

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possessed_flea•

Upvoted for correct anthropological reference

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EastYork•

upvoted for Charity no longer useful

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fleshlight69•

You know I'm going to have to test this out by making a semen/spit coated tennis ball now, don't you?

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crayonalligator•

Fucking awesome, and true too!

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pearlbones•

google search of "Semolysis"

no results. yep, it's a troll.

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ryy0•

Yeah, yeah: [citation needed]

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gatorgator•

This is the grossest thing I have ever heard. Having been pregnant twice, I cannot imagine having anyone put semen and saliva on me during my 9th month of pregnancy. I was cranky enough as it was without that stuff all over me. YUK!!!

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exclamationmark11•

whooosh

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mrkipper69•

Actually there are two completing forces at work here. Semen is composed of sperm, water and several proteins and enzymes. One protein is a coagulating protein, the purpose of which is to make sure that the semen stays in a mass inside the mate and doesn't run back out. One of the enzymes is a de-coagulating enzyme which is supposed to dissolve the coagulating protein after some time, releasing the sperm bound up in the coagulated mass. This combination dramatically improves the chances of impregnation. In the shower the de-coagulating enzyme gets washed away rather quickly, leaving behind the coagulating protein, thus instant spermy glue. As some have noted, the temperature is not critical. However, how many times you've tried this in a day does matter. It takes time to produce the coagulating protein (and everything else but apparently especially the protein). After the first one or two tries, your semen is going to appear much more watery (very little protein) and have a lot less cloudy whiteness (much less sperm {whiteness}). And of course, the younger you are (assuming you're past puberty) the faster you recover your stickyness.

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mrburger•

Temperature may indeed not be "critical" to the scientific hoodoo going on, but to the poor lad needing to clean up and panicking because it's all sticky and weird: icy cold water makes washing it out way easier than does steamy hot water.

Source: independent study.

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Funemployment•

Icy cold water also helps wash away the shame

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hadhad69•

'Our father who art in heaven...'

tightens cilice

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d_lay123•

protip: the same releasing agent in hair conditioner that gets rid of tangles seems to do the same job here...

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Joleene24•

Soap works very nicely.

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Vageli•

All anecdotal comments should be like this.

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bradsh•

Perhaps, but once proteins have changed conformation, they do not change back. Therefore, if temperature really worked as an explanation, changing to cold water after the fact would have no effect.

This is because high heat allows proteins to "find" a thermodynamically lower energy conformation. Sometimes it takes a lot of energy for a protein to move around crazily until it is happiest. Once they do, they will not leave this conformation. This is why eggs do not uncook when they cool down.

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bradsh•

c_vic's answer is what happens when you look something up and don't have a full, encompassing understanding of what's going on.

It seems plausible, and it never occurs to him that if the water were hot enough to change the conformation of semen protein, it would be hot enough to change the conformation of protein inside your own body cells too, which would mean you would be scalding yourself to death.

It's the reason we won't be replacing doctors with wikipedia or WebMD anytime soon.

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ilostmyoldaccount•

yeah, wish i could downvote more than once sometimes

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snarkdragon54•

Did anyone else look up c_vic's reply, only to be let down because of some faulty science behind his theory?

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tgeliot•

A small correction: ejaculate is plenty white without semen. I've had a vasectomy and my ejaculate is just as white as ever (and yes I've been tested).

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raduannassar•

You sound like a man who knows where you're coming from.

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lectrick•

Am I the only person that noticed that semen becomes watery after a couple minutes sitting there?

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composer77•

I wonder what effect blood-anticoagulants (powdered aspirin, warfarin, or some other drug) would have on this protein? Would it reverse the coagulation?

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[deleted]•

No. Blood anti-coagulants typically work on preventing platelet activation, thus reducing the likelihood of thrombus formation. Semen coagulates more likely because the hypotonic shower water removes hydrophilic molecules and induces hydrophobic regions on the denatured proteins to bind to one another and coagulate en masse.

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tgeliot•

I strongly doubt it. Blood coagulation is an incredibly complicated process (one of the ones cited by creationists as "irreducibly complex"), a far cry from being a single protein.

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stakkar•

So is this what causes the wet spot (please ignore the obligatory pee jokes) on the bed? Some always runs out, but it's not immediate...

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chejrw•

That's mostly due to capillary action

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bradsh•

Thanks for the correct answer.

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Nanoviper•

No human being should know this much about the coagulation of Semen!

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wow thank you!

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redpandabear•

If this is true, why isn't there some form of male bc that can get rid of the coagulation enzyme? Wouldn't this lower the chances of pregnancy? Is this enzyme too rampant in the rest of the body to make this feasible?

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[deleted]•

What are the names of the proteins? It's interesting that one is water soluble and the other is not.

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Whiz-kid•

correctamundo!

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gct•

Man you sure know your sperm. On a related note, what do you think the market rate for Batman's sperm is?

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Clothos•

All I know is the children of the recipients won't know that their grandparents are dead!

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[deleted]•

I like to masturbate laying down so I've never done this in the shower. But I'll give it a shot to see this coagulating protein at work!

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One protein is a coagulating protein, the purpose of which is to make sure that the semen stays in a mass inside the mate and doesn't run back out. One of the enzymes is a de-coagulating enzyme which is supposed to dissolve the coagulating protein after some time, releasing the sperm bound up in the coagulated mass.

Thanks - now I know the origin of what my husband and I have nicknamed the "ewwwww moment."

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bilbodesu•

Off topic but whatever. So this mechanism, along with all the other 1000s upon 1000s of systems in the body evolved at the same time?

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Keyframe•

tl;dr; same as egg white on heat.

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[deleted]•

Although the heat sources are vastly different, yeah it's pretty much the same idea. Proteins and enzymes getting denatured and adhering to one another is pretty common in biology.

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quirm•

to make sure that the semen stays in a mass inside the mate and doesn't run back out.

I can attest that this doesn't always work as described.

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djadvance22•

because you're a pussy.

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AndroidHelp•

Hey asshole, try citing your sources next time you post a comment.

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afinalsunset732•

I believe you mean "sement".

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JaBaker•

Cum on, cut him some slack!

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tomrhod•

This ends now.

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[deleted]•

Sadly, that's what she said.

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bobby_badass•

Amazing anybody understood; what with her mouth full.

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zuby_•
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EasilyAnnoyed•

Wait.... not yet.... there!

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bluehazed•

Almost.. finished..

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afinalsunset732•

Nah, I enjoy beating on him...

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atlii•

Don't be a jerk!

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swedishdelight•

Well aren't we spunky today!

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postitpad•

Jizz a minute now, what were we talking about?

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entor•

Urine trouble now...

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swedishdelight•

I see you found a hole in my argument you needed to slide deep into, well done!

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dream_tiger•

Jizz.

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afinalsunset732•

Well put, good sir!

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Reikk•

I'm just glad this pun thread isn't the highest voted, it seems to be stuck towards the bottom.

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afinalsunset732•

haha my first comment wasn't really ment to be punny, i realized after the fact it was

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[deleted]•

All these answers are wrong.

It happens because the sperms are all like WHAAAAAAAARRGARRBLE and curl their tails around your pubes to avoid the drain.

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[deleted]•

They're whargarbling because they're drowning in the water, no?

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felixdrylock•

I once fixed a broken coffee mug with my semen.

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blackskull18•

And it was my semen that actually broke the mug in the first place.

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scorpious•

And the mug was made from my semen.

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[deleted]•

And the mug contained my semen.

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frozenfire•

It's semen all the way down.

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ahahaha•

The mug was shipped by my seamen

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nascentt•

Except for you.

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TooLazyForAnything•

And my axe!

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WhiteMouse•

LAZY.

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BlazinEurasian•

Billy Mays here with another fantastic product!

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firestar27•

He's dead, Jim.

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[deleted]•

I'm doctor, not a salesman.Damn it.

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nauree•

CLEAR TO WHITE TECHNOLOGY.

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ishopstuff•

Was this the brand? http://imgur.com/v5kUQ.jpg

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mrpickles•

you need to do a fuck yea comic on that

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cdated•

did your grandma notice you broke her favorite mug?

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semenface•

The other day I learned this. Me + BF + shower + his semen + my face = FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU!

Does not wash off! It's in my eyelashes! Feel free to make a fffuuuu comic.

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bigjohnstud•

don't get excited guys, BF stands for best friend, this story is about two guys experimenting

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ReallyNiceGuy•

Go on...

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iamthedecider•

Well see, because girls and guys can never be friends and BF stands for best friend, bigjohnstud was able to deduce that the person who had his or her face ejaculated upon must indeed be a man.

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bigjohnstud•

You truly are the decider.

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argleblarg•

Best. Username. Ever.

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[deleted]•

S-s-s-semen face, s-s-semen face.

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ukchris•

Can't clean my, can't clean my, can't clean my semen face.

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thejedisentinel•

That is some seriously bad romance.

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BendingUnit10110•

I can't believe, can't believe

I can't believe my semen face

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EasilyAnnoyed•

My new favorite meme account! :)

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onceler28•

if it gets stuck in your eyes it will then proceed to harden around your tear duct causing a huge amount of pressure to build up in your head and will ruin your whole day. that is all.

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washer•

And also, why is it that when you masturbate in your chair in front of the computer and then you get really tired and nod off and you wake up like a half hour later when the jizz finally drips down onto your belly waking you up that it isn't white any longer?

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Iceland_jack•

wat

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alpharaptor1•

why is jizz winding up on your belly or higher?

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KingofDerby•

You've never had it land on your face?

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reticulate•

I hate it when it drips on my nose.

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PirateMud•

Combined with the whole... shower/glue...thing, it is a PITA to remove from glasses...

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[deleted]•

Thats what she said, no really.

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lechatcestmoi•

Did you accept a lift from some guys in a van?

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[deleted]•

how do you never slouch low in your chair?

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alpharaptor1•

because i don't want jizz on my belly or higher.

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Morass•

There is only the slightest of hints that I even have a bellybutton anymore, I just kept fillin it in till I got a nice smooth tummy.

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sandy_catheter•

but what if it gets on mother?

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crankyoldfart•

Sounds like yours is too small.

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quaunaut•

Shooting?

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alpharaptor1•

maybe he "recycles".

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pwnies•

I personally will shoot over my shoulder if I haven't had a go in a few days.

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Ciscogeek•

...

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jarotar•

The dog licked it clean already.

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Original__Content•

It's because semen's made of more than one substance. It's mainly water, and I'm guessing that it slowly congeals into protein-spermy clumps, leaving most of the less-viscous water to drip down your stomach. So the stuff that's not white and in fact transparent is mostly water, I believe.

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gerbil-ear•

The same as pre-cum? I guess it's after-cum.

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[deleted]•

Your swimmers swimming is what creates the viscosity.

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nerdCaps•

Bozarking?

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MeldingPlague•

No, man. This is something completely new and terrifying.

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5user5•

It's WASHER

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ObligatoryResponse•

BUT WHO WAS PHONE?

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[deleted]•

yes, unfortunately.

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kroneland•

Wait... is this true?

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BaconCat•

I'm not a doctor, but I often pretend to be one on the internet, and yes, it is definitely true.

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babucat•

internet cats are pretend doctors

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Desper•

Internet Doctor: BaconCat

I like it.

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baconcatman•

You imposter! I'm the doctor here!

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[deleted]•

Did you stay at a holiday inn express last night?

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intothelionsden•

This guy sounds ligit

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tophat02•

It must be. He's from the internet.

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VIKINGRAPE•

Yes it is. Not the most precise of tests, but it is true. Without the sperm, you sca-doosh doesn't have the reactive protein that turns it into a solid-like state.

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pDack16•

BS most of the protein in semen is not sperm, so you should still get denaturing protein even if sterile. I suspect flinchreel just showers in colder water than some other people.

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brodieface•

I am a cat and this is true.

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cdated•

FTFY: yes, fortunately.

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aldld•

You mean fortunately.

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voyetra8•

Studies have shown this also an indication of tertiary hermaphrodism. IE- you may have undeveloped ovaries that formed when you were in the womb. Sounds crazy, but here's a video that discusses it.

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Papshmire•

A very educational video. My father forwarded it to everyone in the family once, it was kind of awkward.

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DrJerkberg•

not available in my country. mirror?

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xx3nvyxx•

I love this script

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SparkyFox•

Thanks! Added to greasemonkey ^_^

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manwithabadheart•

Here is a Chrome port (as that script doesn't work with Chrome unfortunately) - https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/ddpephnhacfpgcemhioaejgenlgadnnh

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jsantos17•

You asshole.

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bwhalley•

god damn it

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Illadelphian•

No you just jerk off a lot.

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fungah•

I like this answer more than the original, well thought out, concise, answer. Does this make me a bad person?

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c_vic•

Proteins change their physical properties based on temperature stimulus. This is due to fact that proteins are very complex molecules. One protein molecule is made of one very long chain called a peptide. The sequence of monomers in this change determines the protein. However, due to interactions between different parts of the chain, it will fold up into a certain shape when created. This shape determines the physical appearance of the protein to the naked eye. So, when heated, or cooled, this shape changes, and the physical properties of the protein, in turn, change as well. This is why meat becomes tender when cooked, and eggs become opaque. I hope this helps clear things up for you.

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c_vic•

You make a good point, but some proteins are very sensitive to small changes. This could be one of those proteins. Not all proteins require cooking temperatures to denature them.

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rimmed•

which protein are you referring to exactly?

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enkiam2•

stickysemenase of course

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asperger•

The polypeptide one, of course! Surely you know nothing of what I speak.

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quaesitor•

Cf. Protein denaturation and protein conformation/folding.

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c_vic•

Ah, yea, denaturation is the word I was trying to remember, thanks :)

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biojunkee•

This post is answering the question of how and not the question of why. Semen clots like that so it can stick to the walls of the vagina after sex. Later, the semen will actually liquefy again to give sperm an opportunity to swim into the ova. Also, you can't see proteins with "the naked eye."

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You can absolutely see proteins with the naked eye, once they've coagulated.

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mrpickles•

and water needs to boil for proteins to denature - doubt this happens in your shower

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I have been studying organics and microbiology all week. After reading and completely understanding that, I think I am ready for my two tests tomorrow.

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rivalius13•

I wouldn't be so confident, I took high school home ec 5 years ago and I understand what c_vic wrote.

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I think that understanding that paragraph in its entirety including being able to visualize and name the fatty acids / identify the carboxylic groups involved in the process is pretty good.

Also, kiss my fatty ass. :D

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CobraYawn•

Not so sure about that buddy, proteins have nothing to do with fatty acids.

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rivalius13•

Those words all seem familiar, and maybe 5 years ago I'd be able to BS understanding what you said...but...dammit, ok, present your ass.

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Hamakua•

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I have never taken microbiology or any related course and I understand what he wrote completely through a combination of casual knowledge and a well written explanation that uses context effectively.

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babettebaboon•

I took neither of those options, got a C in high school chemistry and still understood all of it.

In conclusion, no one is a snowflake.

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c_vic•

Well, I'm glad I could help out :)

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theKinkajou•

Expect to see this question on one of those tests.

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[deleted]•

Uh, sorry to break your bubble, but that's pretty basic biology. :\

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[deleted]•

ya, my statement makes it sound like just understanding this one concept means im ready for the test. I have a lot to learn, I was just happy to read something related.

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[deleted]•

:3 good luck. <3 orgo

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electrofizz•

Take a shower break, then you're ready.

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fross•

Only if one of them involves spooging in the shower.

Good luck!

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EltaninAntenna•

I read that first as you would test the protein denaturation in the shower tomorrow, twice.

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SarahC•

Do you know what a "denatured" protein is?

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yellowking•

So he's been Folding@Home?

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bradsh•

Everything you said is true, but not applicable to the OP's question, and, in fact, is wholly incorrect in regards to it.

It seems plausible, but water hot enough to change the conformation of semen protein is also hot enough to change the conformation of skin protein which means you are very quickly dying in the shower. This would likely not be a comfortable shower (what with all of the boiling alive).

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c_vic•

Didn't you read the story of the man to had a heart attack in the bath and got cooked to the bone? I see your point though.

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StrawberryFrog•

tl;dr version: just like egg white, the proteins set due to the heat.

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StrawberryFrog•

Basically, yes.

And not just his, any semen. I've uh ... seen it happen.

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dansin•

Is that true? Do you have a reference? Proteins properties are temperature dependent, but some of those properties you described are chemical changes. Protein structural changes are not chemical in nature, and it doesn't seem obvious that a change in temperature would make something "cementlike"

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c_vic•

They are chemically based, in that they come from intermolecular interactions within a complex molecule. No chemical bonds are broken, it's just a weak interaction between two stable sections of molecule. Molecule restructuring can affect physical properties. This is no different than the phase changing of water from solid to liquid. Heat adds energy to the moelcules, and once they reach a certain point, the energy is enough to force the molecules to move out of the solid lattice and the water becomes liquid. That is a molecular interaction that creates a macroscopic physical state change. It's the same thing here essentially. Heat adds energy to the molecule until sections that are interacting "break" away from their initial interactions and form new interactions at different places and the shape of the folding changes. Perhaps no new interactions will form and the whole molecule will freely float as an opened chain. It's like a long piece of tape that's sticking to itself, and then is pulled apart to form a different shape.

For reference, just look up any organic chemistry or advanced biology book. Look up polypeptide bonding, protein folding, or polymers in general.

Edit: Typos

Edit: Some related Wikipedia links (plenty of sources there if you want to research further):

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Downtown•

Protein folding. I do it when I make an omelette, and my PS3 does it when it's idle.

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dansin•

Well its not polypeptide bonding. Polypeptide bonding is a chemical process in which amino acids form peptide bonds to form a chain (a polypeptide/protein). But I could agree there's a polymer effect causing a change in MACROSCOPIC physical properties. Actually I got my PhD in physics with a specialty in protein folding. We don't consider protein folding to be "chemical" due to the lack of chemical bond processes. I'd agree that its possible that heat-denaturation could be a catalyst for this process but it seems like a vague explanation. And it doesn't explain the connection between protein folding/unfolding (a microscopic process) into a change in macroscopic behavior (stickiness). But lastly I would say that you are probably right in that its a polymer effect, but how it works exactly I still don't know. Edit: OK after rereading after your edit. Let me make a TL;dr Tl;dr: I agree with the polymer effect. Some of your terminology is off though.

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_quickdrawmcgraw_•

If you think that you have a better answer to the question than c_vic, you should probably post it as a reply to the original question, not nit-pick his response when he is trying to give an informed answer.

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c_vic•

I don't claim to know how protein folding works, just that it exists and is responsible for a lot of things we observe with proteins. I remember my professor telling us that it's still a mystery how the folding actually works, and reproducing the effect in a polymer is still beyond our grasp.

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The 3D structure of a protein is responsible for its chemical proprieties. Now then, there are many factor that can change the shape of a protein : pH, temperature, concentration of salt, pressure.

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LaughingFridge•

That's dedication. I like how after getting downvoted you took it on the chin (nopun) and went and found out da truth son. Boat.

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c_vic•

I didn't have to "find out the truth". I knew this about proteins because I've studied materials science, and proteins are like nature's polymers. I just had to post something meaningful after getting completely embarrassed in that other post.

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unitconversion•

I've always figured the different ions in different waters play a role too much like alginate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcium_alginate

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[deleted]•

Much like the slime/glue of the velvet worm... front page coincidence?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/06/06/2919480.htm

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Paul-ish•

This explains cum omelettes[NSFW].

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geoman69•

This might be the biological advantage to this mechanism:

The degree of semen coagulation and the formation of a copulatory plug are also correlated with the degree of female promiscuity in primates [Dixson & Anderson, 2002]. A copulatory plug is a firm coagulation of semen, which presumably serves to physically block subsequent males from achieving fertilization; among hominoids copulatory plugs are found only in chimpanzees and bonobos [Dixson, 1998b; Dixson & Anderson, 2002; Tinklepaugh, 1930].

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absentbird•

Understanding is one of those cool things that has many layers. A well written segment should be understandable by anyone but more meaningful to some.

cvic did a good job in explaining the simple along with the complex so that pretty much anyone could get something from it. cvic also set a scientific mood with his language and touched on some more advanced topics like peptides for people who already knew a little or who wanted to learn more.

The disadvantage to writing accessibly is that by nature it can only extend to the intermediate at best, highly technical conversation can suffer from being simplified. The advantage is that it gives enough keywords to look up more.

All in all, a very good comment, please upvote for me, since I have but one vote to give.

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c_vic•

Wow. I'm flattered.

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MistaBig•

must be why it comes out in clumps after I take a really hot shower or sit in a hot tub.

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entor•

Are you telling me I should go cook some semen?

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cdated•

so that explains what happens when I jerk off into a frying pan!

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dodongo•

eggs become opaque. I hope this helps clear things up for you.

Wait a... I see what you did there. Very clever indeed.

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otterpopheadache•

So it hardens most in a hot shower? Cooked egg whites come to mind.

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I hate when people say "I hope this helps" , usually it doesn't or the statement doesn't really apply. It's a strange phenomenon

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KappaDerby•

Yep, got it. Magic.

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[deleted]•

Same reason why when you fry egg's they turn white. Try frying semen. No really I've always been curious, report back.

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daniel2488•

I literally had to Google "fried semen" as soon as I read this

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=198659

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CUvinny•

I saw a japanese porn or something that they did that. Bunch of dudes jacked it into a pan, sperm was fried, and a girl ate it

I gagged

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[deleted]•

Seriously, I didn't even entertain the thought that I'm the only one who's pondered this.

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Original__Content•

Hell, I ain't got no wife. I'll let you know.

Peace,

mangeorge

Godspeed, mangeorge. Godspeed.

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Here's his reply:

dragongirl, do not read on... Good. Nobody "beat" me to it. It just turns brown and reduces a lot. Here's what I found when I analized [sic] the sample. 'Scuse me, I'm still a little shaky.

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[deleted]•

Masturbate, masturbate, Guybud man; Shoot your semen, Into a pan; Heat it, saute it, And mark it with pee, And there will be enough For everyone but me.

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lectrick•

lol at someone there calling it:

Semenbeaters

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paradisepickles•

Holy shit that thread is awesome.

Originally posted by mangeorge ... when I analized the sample ...

You meant analyzed, right?

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[deleted]•

As expected, a site called straightdope is the most likely one to have the answer.

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011235•

Hey man, straightdope is legit. Cecil, who runs the site, write a heavy-duty myth-busting and question-answering column that he updates online every week. He does very in-depth research on interesting/obscure/weird questions, and reports back to the rest of humanity - I think the reddit crowd would enjoy his stuff.

The forums are by subscription, so they're also of a very high quality of conversation (or discord). It's very much a close community in that most people on there stay a while and there aren't floods of new ones coming in.

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chrisrico•

I suggest this book.

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rocketsurgery•

I love referencing this. Why does this exist?

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[deleted]•

So people can reference it on the internet and use it as a gag gift?

Fun fact: the same guy that founded Lulu also founded Red Hat.

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rocketsurgery•

gag gift

:|

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[deleted]•

Helen Thomas commented on that book in 2008.

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mrpickles•

I wonder if raunchy intellectual chefs see this as the equivalent of spitting in food for a poor patron?

I am now afraid that at some point in my life somebody may have cooked me semen food.

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[deleted]•

I am now certain that at some point in my life somebody has cooked me semen food.

FTFY

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[deleted]•

You should save and refrigerate Jizz until you have enough for an omelet. Then invite over your mortal enemy to reconcile. You may want to throw a couple egg yolks in there for color.

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randomRedditer•

actually there is a pron flick which does this... and the chick eats the shit... google for pan fried semen... report back

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FertileCroissant•
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lectrick•

holy crap. this is one of those "i thought i've seen almost everything on the internet" moments

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Andrexthor•

Rule 34

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WhiteMouse•

Japan did it first.

... umm, I heard, anyway.

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cheesylobster•

Holy crap I don't think I've ever been more disgusted. I literally felt like vomiting watching that.

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[deleted]•

I'm replying to this so that I can link it to someone I hate at a later time.

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[deleted]•

This is only the second time as an adult the answer to a question I've asked has made me want to vomit. Kudos.

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impostersquid•

Appropriate username.

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rmm45177•

You mean cook with semen?

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[deleted]•

Please, yes. Reporting on the taste is optional.

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rmm45177•

Burnt scrambled eggs

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[deleted]•

That was fast. You should have a lie down, you've done mankind a service, a questionable, deeply worrying service.

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YourGoatishWar•

They did this in some porn I watched. I wish I could remember the name, but the result was that semen tastes surprisingly like egg when fried.

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[deleted]•

I remember I was at a gathering once and we resolved to do this. So we went with our respective partners to try and gather enough raw material. I think we ended up having more fun making fun of the guy who couldn't get it up (His girl told everyone) and completely forgot about the task at hand.

Ever since that day the question has bugged me.

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spiraltri3e•

I'm not sure if I want your life or not.

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[deleted]•

Nor me. How do you roll? I'd be willing to consider some sort of time share scenario.

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firestar27•

the task at hand.

:|

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[deleted]•

I'm glad someone picked up on that.

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DexterDoakes•

I believe it was called "cum omelettes" or something like that. A bunch of men ejaculated into a cup and they poured it on hot skillet, then some girl ate it.

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FertileCroissant•
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_Born_To_Be_Mild_•

Oh Hell no!

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bonaducci•

That's not to be confused with the Denver Cum Omelette; that has ham, peppers, cheese, and dude gravy.

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Zhai•

In korean movie "Sex is zero" some students fry cum. It leads to one of them eating it.

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[deleted]•

I saw an eFukt video where a girl made an omelette out of it. It was the nastiest thing I've seen in a while

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supernovacore•

OK! So, Meesa Biologist :P

1, when most cells touch water they pop and release DNA. DNA is really sticky and results in other cells getting stuck in 'boogers' that really can't be smashed apart. 2. Mice have this cool feature that when the male screws the female, the semen close to the opening of the vagina hardens into a 'plug' so that no other male can impregnate her.(liquid/secretions prob having to do with this) 3. I don't think your shower water is hot enough to cook an egg, therefore it wouldn't be hot enough to cook (denature proteins) your semen.

I suggest trying with cold water to really prove weather it is temperature or water.

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pluripotentcat•

1, when most cells touch water they pop and release DNA

I'm not sure what water your working with there but you might want to patent it and sell it as a superweapon.

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dead_mellotron•

If you put a cell in deionized water, wouldn't it lyse because the water is hypotonic? I would expect it to, unless the cell had mechanisms to handle the osmotic pressure...

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sandipc•

Yes. But shower water is not deionized

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[deleted]•

I can't wait until my first chemistry class this semester... Orangered.

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supernovacore•

*lymphocytes, aka 'white blood cells'

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spiris•

Why this doesn't have the most upvotes I have no idea.

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Aqwis•

"OK! So, Meesa [...]".

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IDontKnowYou•

Black Meesa?

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jsantos17•

Source?

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[deleted]•

He said meesa biologist!

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supernovacore•

Umm, 4 years of lab experience. Boogers are a pain in the ass when spinning down cells (like a smashed up mouse spleen). Mice have plugs, thats just a fact of life. And bring in an egg with you to the shower, see if it dentures a littles?

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thacked•

My guess is that the hot water changes the consistency. Try in a cold shower next time and see what happens:)

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marsattacks•

The servant waits, while the master bathes. In cold water.

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[deleted]•

Masturbate. Learn to spell. Christ.

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[deleted]•

I have seen this spelled wrong so many times that I actually assumed that changing the U to an E was simply the American spelling. I'm English by the way, I live in the states.

Edit: I need to change my web browsing habits enough to stop noticing this particular error.

Edit 2: Christ!

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lowrads•

They don't teach this word in school. Most of fly-over states can spell adstinence though.

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[deleted]•

Christ!

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[deleted]•

Yes, this exactly. Heat alters proteins. In this case, it makes it sticky.

The bio-evolutionary advantage for this should be obvious...

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kermityfrog•

Just like egg whites.

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[deleted]•

You can't simply force someone to like egg whites.

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peteismurder•

Nor can you force them to eat a sandwich.

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DefMech•

Cold does the same thing, btw. It congeals and gets sticky just like in hot water. Lukewarm or body-temperature is best if you're really concerned about how to wash it off.

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tekgnosis•

Soap is the best way to get rid of it, it just disappears when you use soap. Due to this, my best guess is that it has something to do with the electrostatic charge present, not sure of polarity of charge, but sperm and ova have opposite charges. Soap is also a polar molecule, so I'm guessing opposite charges in soap and sperm join preferably to sperm and skin.

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PandemicSoul•

Or just use shampoo. Push shampoo over the offending area and the stuff just slides away.

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Aqwis•

I haven't tried, but I doubt it's reversible.

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whasupjohn•

Because their tails get all tangled together.

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[deleted]•

Ockham's Razor, people! Forget all that biology mumbo jumbo, we got 7-word the answer right here.

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aldenhg•

Occam

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rigi42•

Occum

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aldenhg•

Occam

EDIT: I realized that i simply missed a joke made on this month old thread, but Reddit was being crazy. Anyhow, haha, good on you.

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[deleted]•

I only had one bath wank and I am never doing it again. It stuck to my body hair all over the place and I had to take a shower afterwards just to clean it off.

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diddy0071•

so you took a shower while taking a shower?

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Dacvak•

Yo d-

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Spanglegluppet•

Xzibit would be proud.

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ace586•

There's a yo dawg in there somewhere...

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myotheralt•

I think it is over there. >

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bdfortin•

Yo dawg...

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deadfoot•

Yo dawg...

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Link255•

Blast it with piss. (one of the few times this is good advice.)

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Bulgeman9000•

Tell me one instance where this ISN'T good advice.

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jon_titor•

R Kelly knows at least one.

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Link255•

I've heard getting stains out of the rug aren't aided by a blast of piss, but I could be incorrect.

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RandomAmpersand•

What about... well obviously... I mean if....

hmmm... I guess you're right...

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jingo04•

Electric fence blocking your path?

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TastyCake123•

Nuke it from orbit.

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[deleted]•

Nice try, R. Kelly.

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surfnsound•

Dude. Totally came here to say this. Learned by accident, but can't argue with the effectiveness.

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PrsPirate•

God I love reddit.

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tekgnosis•

I don't know why everybody is claiming that temperature causes this to occur, the same thing happens in cold water.

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Horatio__Caine•

No it doesn't.

Source: seen my boyfriend come both ways (yes, we did it for science).

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mastertwisted•

Upvoted for science.

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kentzler•

This discussion is puts on sunglasses cumming to an end.

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_Born_To_Be_Mild_•

Myth Buster.

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tekgnosis•

Yes it does. Source: Did it 2 hours ago.

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[deleted]•

Well, considering the body's narrow temperature range, I wouldn't be surprised if sperm congealed in cold or hot water. Either way, the proteins are probably denatured.

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jamesboags•

Never ever give your girlfriend/partner a facial in the shower.

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QAOP_Space•

don't accidentally get some in your girlfriends hair, then tell her to wash it off in the shower. no, don't do that.

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[deleted]•

Oops…

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DoWhile•

Anyways, I was curious as to the scientific principles behind it.

Semen is quite complicated, IIRC. Not exactly sure which part of it does that.

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milkawhat•

"Man milk" redirects here

I love you, Wikipedia.

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[deleted]•

The thing that I simultaneously love about Wikipedia and that creeps me out about the same are the people who will masturbate into a petri dish, take a photo, and upload it to the site.

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daniel2488•

Source: Own work

Spectacular

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[deleted]•

It's for research

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maenomo•

Thanks for that link. Golden quote:

Semen in espionage

When the British Secret Intelligence Service (SSB) discovered that semen made a good invisible ink, Sir George Mansfield Smith-Cumming noted of his agents that "Every man (is) his own stylo".

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[deleted]•

Hmm, I can piss my name in the snow, but ejaculating my name in the snow might take a bit longer

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TeddyJackEddy•

Just appreciate that you've found an easy and economical way to make fake boogers.

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jovdmeer•

Somehow I think this kind of fake boogers is actually more gross than real boogers... Anyone with me on this?

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[deleted]•

everyone is with you on this. I have non- allergenic face wash that looks like semen. I keep meaning to put it on peoples door handles and stuff.

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AKA_Squanchy•

It is cooking. Check the difference between hot and cold water ... It's similar to eggwhites!

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[deleted]•

Why doesn't your semen harden in your body, then?

Usually your body temperature is HIGHER than the water temperature.

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aldenhg•

I would guess that you're incorrect. It seems to me that the average shower is most likely about 100 degrees, if not hotter. I'm not saying Squanchy up there is right, though.

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AKA_Squanchy•

If your body temperature was higher than the water temperature, it would feel cold. A shower feels warm because the water is warmer than you. I just measured my comfortable shower temp, it was ~105º. That's definitely higher than my body temp ...

I've found that ejaculate in the shower in hot water becomes a semi-solid almost immediately, but out of the shower it slightly coagulates, only to slowly liquefy over time. Scientists are not sure exactly why this happens, but hypothesize that it gets where it is supposed to go, then slowly releases spermatozoa in waves. Link. More.. But that's non-temperature related. I still think it 'cooks' in the 105º water. Try it with an egg white, I bet it's similar.

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[deleted]•

If your body temperature was higher than the water temperature, it would feel cold

No, that depends.

Have you ever been in an outdoor pool? Usually the water temperature is below 25°C yet you still "feel" it to be warm.

I measured the temperature of my shower water, it's 28°C. It's warm. (Human body temperature is ~37°C.)

My semen still gets solid and sticky.

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