If you have multiple cards that Amass, can you make more than one Army?
Posted Jul 23, 2019, 1:34 AM UTC
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No. Amass as a mechanic has two steps:
- Put X counters on target Army you control.
- If you don't already have an Army, create one first.
Obviously this is a simplified version, but that should explain it.
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It doesn't target and you got the steps backwards, but it's no more complicated than that. Here's the rule defining it verbatim:
To amass N means “If you don’t control an Army creature, create a 0/0 black Zombie Army creature token. Choose an Army creature you control. Put N +1/+1 counters on that creature.”
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Amass does not target.
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You could have 2 army tokens if you where to steal one from your opponent
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Or you can use [[Amoeboid Changeling]] to remove the Army subtype from the first token, allowing you to get another one.
Sadly, not in standard...
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Amoeboid Changeling - (G) (SF) (txt)
^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
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Read what Amass says on the cards. It first checks if you have an Army token, then puts counters on an Army if you have one or makes an Army if you don’t.
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There is one way to have two armies without utilizing changeling.
If you have no army, have an effect that doubles the number of tokens produced ([[parallel lives]]), and an effect that statically increases creatures stats ([[bad moon]] or [[glorious anthem]]) you would create two zombie army tokens, put amass X +1/+1 counters on one of them, and keep the other as a 1/1 (or more if you have more 'anthem' effects).
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There is a lot more than one way.
You have all sorts of control magic effects.
There are also clone effects, [[Spark Double]] will actually put on a counter to survive the cloning.
You can also add in the subtype with [[Arcane Adaptation]]
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Maybe I should have been more clear. There is only one way to have two armies through a single amass.
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Oh, yeah. That tracks.
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Spark Double - (G) (SF) (txt)
Arcane Adaptation - (G) (SF) (txt)
^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
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No they just add to the same token as the card says.
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You can amass and put counters on cards with Changeling since they are Armies (since they are all creature types)
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Wait so if you have a creature with changeling wouldn’t the counters from amass just go to that creature rather than create a token
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I feel like you can do some sneaky stuff here. Maybe not good but definitely sneaky.
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[[changeling outcast]], [[mothdust changeling]], [[lazotep Reaver]], [[callous dismissal]], [[lazotep plating]], [[dreadhorde invasion]] seems like the core of a deck around that I think?
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changeling outcast - (G) (SF) (txt)
mothdust changeling - (G) (SF) (txt)
lazotep Reaver - (G) (SF) (txt)
callous dismissal - (G) (SF) (txt)
lazotep plating - (G) (SF) (txt)
dreadhorde invasion - (G) (SF) (txt)
^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
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If you don't have a Zombie Army token (or another changeling), the changeling gets the counters.
If you do have a Zombie Army token (or another changeling), you get to pick which creature gets the counters, but you can only pick one per Amass instance.
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Yeah, but it is a pretty interesting interaction.
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Nope! It’ll all add on to the same token