When crazy people throw themselves into our cause, what should we do?
When you're a radical movement at the fringes of the mainstream, you attract a different kind of crowd that includes people who many would consider "undesirable".
One pretty obvious example of this is the Aryan Nations, who politically have a lot in common with the alt-right but are really something else socially, being a prison gang full of drug dealers and violent criminals. I think you could make a strong point that meth smoking, prison style skinheads don't have a place sitting at the table with the rest of the alt right, and should be turned away at the door if they try to associate.
How about crazy people? I'm talking about people with mental health issues who are obviously "not of a sound mind". These people can be more appealing then the methhead gangsters because their impaired ability to make good judgements can lead to them doing bold, low inhibition shit that makes them popular. But this popularity can be really dangerous, because then you wind up with a "leader" who is really just a raving lunatic who is constantly doing self destructive, irrational shit.
Am I a divide and conquer shill? No, I hope you believe me. I am someone who is concerned about the alt rights ability to get sane, rational, hard working normal people attracted to our movement and not just a fringe corps of crazy people and violent degenerates constantly spazzing out.
Posted Aug 13, 2019, 2:17 AM UTC
Sane and rational people can go listen to what our thought leaders say and know that we are not meth dealers.
The left never disavows their freaks and they don't have to. People just understand that they are freaks.
If you are concerned about attracting intelligent people...then those people can be like me. They can listen to the actual message rather than trust whatever nonsense that discredited institutions have to say.
Meanwhile not everyone in a movement can be a thought leader. You have to appeal to more than just the intellectual 1% to be a thing at all.
Many of them won't though. Most people do not bother seeking out what our thought leaders say because they are either not interested, not aware of them, or are too busy with other things. We have to reach out to them. What do you think are some good ways to do this? Our outreach online has been great but has primarily focused on gaming and meme culture. Where are some good big brain places to promote pro-white ideas? I've been posted in some of the more intelligent political discussion subreddits and they are usually surprised to see someone with my beliefs commenting at all. Nationalists on reddit have almost no presence outside of nationalist/reactionary subreddits and the subreddits dedicated to debating radical ideas like CvS or Debate(ideology). We have a lot of common ground with environmentalists. I think we need to be reaching out to the greens way more. Many of them are smart and aren't very familiar with right-wing green politics.
The Distributist made a variation of this argument recently saying that he didn't have to explain or apologize for radical militarism because he himself wasn't a militant, merely a radical. I would generally agree (I for one have no intention of multiplying human suffering, and I would hope the same is true of everyone here, though I'm sure it isn't). The problem with this model is that we don't control the media outlets, and it's increasingly looking like Silicon Valley may be able to engineer its way out of this problem, and that they will be allowed to do so with impunity. So even if CNN dies out (which it will), we aren't going to be allowed a platform anywhere that we don't build ourselves - and that sort of movement is already terminal because it just involves wasting energy preaching to the choir. We need to be where the normies are, and increasingly it looks like we will be effectively shut out of those channels.