Mafia II - PC Demo
store.steampowered.com/app/50280/Posted Aug 10, 2010, 7:48 AM UTC
Posted Aug 10, 2010, 7:48 AM UTC
My experience with this game: First I walked inside the house, where doors actually open and you can actually do stuff. There is a Playboy magazine in the the kitchen counter, and you can collect them. They have real naked pictures of woman in there. Awesome. Then, I walked to my garage, chose the heaviest car. It runs like hell, but steers like a freaking bathtub, so I managed to crash it in a wall. That's when I saw this black guy getting out of his house, in overalls, and entering his car. Being the dumb bastard used to GTA that I am, I promptly hijacked his vehicle. To my surprise the black guy extricated me and started punching my face off. Pretty soon the police showed up, and still being the moron used to GTA, I thought "Well, I'm gonna go to jail now". I was very pleased when the officer told us to fuck off and stop fighting. That's believable and I loved it. I returned to my stupid crashed car and continued. In the bridge I was cruising like a motherfucker when suddenly I hear police sirens. Oh shit. I thought NOW I'm going to jail. The officer asked me to step out of the vehicle and he freaking fined me. I could have bitched him about it, but I payed the stupid fine and again it felt realistic. Half way to the distillery I found a gun shop. I bought everything I could and started pulling off my guns and waiving them around like an idiot. By the time my crosshairs passed by the owner, he was already with a shotgun himself, and shot my brains out as soon as I locked him in sight. I wasn't even trying to rob him. So I started the game again, picked up the phone and there I was "Shit, now I have to listen to this whole thing for another 15 seconds of my very important time". I hit ESC and this little box pops up saying "You can either skip this cutscene or listen to it". Wonderful! I skipped and went in my marry way. Almost arriving in my destination I checked the clothing store and picked up a nice suit with a bitchin' fedora. Now I'm dressed to kill. The firefight in the distillery was extremely satisfying, the guns feel fun to shoot, the Tommy gun packs a lot of punch. The buildings are detailed and OH THE RADIOS! THE MUSIC. It's so awesome. My only problem was driving, but I usually suck at that in any game. Will buy this game.
My experience: I was walking around town, still getting used to the controls. I pull my gun out and a guy in front of me says 'I bet my gun is bigger than yours boy.' So I shot him, his buddies start pouring out of nearby cars and starting shooting at me. I return fire, cops show up, I'm outnumbered around 8 to 1 so I run and get gunned down a few seconds later. I have to say, that level of interaction with npcs is pretty cool.
Something similar happened to me: I pulled out my gun and a guy says the "my gun is bigger" thing, I was turning around to face him when the cops showed up. Two officers came, one for each one of us. I slowly put my weapon away and prepare to try and bribe him. The other suspect simply starts running like a maniac, the officer shouts "Suspect is on the move!" or something like that, and promptly shoots him down, bystanders that were just watching the scene started yelling and running when the officer started firing. I was kinda shocked with the whole thing and fucked up the controls to bribe him and ended up being arrested. It felt really detailed and realistic.
Totally agree with you on every point though, excellent game. When I was driving over to the distillery the guy on the radio was talking about atom bombs and atomic bombs, saying "Thankfully the United States is the only country that will ever be able to produce them." or something along those lines.
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I was so happy the cops offered me a fine. I'm used to immediately being sent to jail, like in GTA 4.
And if you walk around with a gun, they stop you and try to arrest you. You can go to jail or bribe them. They even say "Thanks for the contribution to my retirement fund". Awesome.
I was shit at driving too, but powered up my 360 gamepad for it and it was much easier, even in simulation mode (managed to do some awesome donuts).
I just found out about the Body Shop (check you map, it's the little tool icon), you can tune up your ride, change colors, rims, and even personalize the plate. It handled much better, but made the engine way too loud and I barely could listen to the nice radios.
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Demos often convince me that I don't want to buy it.
Well they probably weren't good games.
Yeah, exactly. It's one of the reasons game companies don't release demos anymore. I was responding to your remark about sales increases.
There are a lot of quality games that don't have demos though. While I agree with you in the case of a mediocre/bad game (90% of games on the market) most of the 10% quality games don't have demos either.
I liked GTAIVs physics a lot more. It feels like the people in mafia just float around and dont weigh anything. If GTA actually had a good port to the PC that was optimized, it would be much better IMO.
I'm not seeing the whole "float around" aspect of Mafia 2, they seem to be quite solid. Although I do realize GTA IV's physics are a lot heavier and the people do weight quite a bit more, it's an issue of indifference to me.
While I see why you might prefer GTA IV's physics more. I just hated how sluggish and unresponsive the controls were. In Mafia 2 the controls were tight and your character moved pretty fast.
I have to say GTA sure seems to have gotten lazy, guess all their real talent (and or hard workers) left for greener pastures or got burned out or something. They could have built onto IP features, instead they decided to coast, even go backwards for ease of development. I liked Vice City WAY more than GTA 4.
The game is so beautiful, but it changed the brightness settings on my desktop ...weird.
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Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Restart you PC ,that helped me .
You can also just change your resolution, then change it back to what you were using. Much quicker than a reboot.
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Hmmm didn't try that, thanks anyway :D
If your on Win7 just hit Ctrl + Alt + Delete.
It probably changes the gamma setting in the hardware itself, rather than adjusting the way it displays the game.
Forgetting to change the gamma back when the game ends is a not uncommon bug.
If you absolutely can't reboot, go into your PC's display settings and search for gamma.
In a situation like this there is only one thing that can be done. You must kill the Mafia 2 demo... WITH FIRE!
I think that only works if it's 2007.
I loved the first mafia. It didnt feel like GTA in a real sense to me, I hope they stick with that style. GTA is fun to an extent. However I liked the depth of the charaters in mafia. In GTA I never really felt attached to any of the NPCs at all, In mafia you did.
I am hoping they dont do the whole "sand box" with bright flashy glowing things where missions are. I guess I'll see when I get home.
I also hope they fixed the diriving a bit, it wasnt very intuative in the first game. Although it was realism to an extent. My knowledge of cars in that era is lacking, I am assume due to size and technology the ability to turn wasn't very good.
They didn't. I reviewed the full version for a magazine, and while you can move anywhere in the city, it does not succomb to classic sandboxing. There is only one mission available at all times, so you are free to drive around the city, it just does not do anything.
Thats awesome! awaits full game.
Oh oh! Do we get Freeride Extreme in this one, too?
Oh man, I loved Freeride Extreme. I really hope there is one in Mafia II. Missions where really interesting and rewards for finishing them where really cool cars. With the house and garage like backyard were you could store your vehicles it was like another game inside the existing one. What more could a man want.
I never stumbled upon it during the review, even after completing the game. However, that could be a feature, that was left out in the review build.
Dear lord, I do hope so.
Is there enough to do to make it interesting when you don't feel like doing the main story?
Well, no.
At one point, I decided to follow a whore, that I just saved from a beating (this was a part of the story). I wanted to see where she was going, and what she was doing. It turns out she just turned a corner and merged into the traffic a few blocks later, becoming a lifeless puppet, together with the rest of the city.
I did not feel there was anything to do at all, outside the main story. I think you can steal cars and sell them for money, but there is never a need to do it, since money is only good for three things, car upgrades/repairs, guns and paying fines, and the last two doesn't really matter. You can also rob gunstores and the likes, but again - there is no need to do so.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the game and it is beautiful - it is just obvious that the city exists to provide a setting for the story, and not much else.
Well the Story was pretty much 95% of the game in Mafia 1, and I hope that Mafia 2 has a similarly brilliant story. You play Mafia for the story.
yes buy clothes, weapons, ammo, get gas, repair/upgrade/customize your car, sightsee...all i've found so far.
Woah this is rare, an early demo for an anticipated PC game? I'm really excited, and going to download it right now.
I got really excited about this, I pasted the link to my friends and nobody got that excited, why? Because hardly anyone had played the first version. It's not a big surprise that the game doesnt have any storyline references (known so far) to the first game but even the demo still got me really excited, can't wait for this to come out. Also, I can't be the only one who loves enviroment that you can interact with, small stuff like turning off the lights, putting on the sink and stuff like that?
I never finished the first game, too hard, no cheats, but what i did play was well done. I got to the point where i was supposed to break into some guarded mansion at night and assassinate somebody. never made it.
great mission. the attention to detail in the original set it apart from others. one of the most immersive sandboxes ive played
this one seems to have built on that. futzing around with stuff is great. you can get clothes, food, liquor, gas, get upgrades at a garage, escape the cops when you're wanted...on top of everything else that was mentioned in this thread already. though i haven't found any ammo drops or anything laying around. i did murder some smartass, but didn't get his gun (ran from cops) not sure if you can do that or not.
I actually just started playing Mafia 1 again a few days ago because I've been so excited for this. It really takes some serious patience until you start getting faster cars, but it's so worth it. The story is great.
wow, a game that using a cover system that is actually good!
Awesome graphics too. It ran very well and I don't have a monster system. q6600, 4gb ram, 8800gtx running at 1920x1080 16x aniso with AA off, got above 30 fps in the benchmark. I imagine anything built for gaming this year will run this awesomely.
btw the first one was mission style like this too, so you might as well deal with it if you think it's similar to gta.
Actually the developers are the ones that try to pass the idea that it's not another gta.
The similarities are going to be there sure, but I think this will stand on its own, that is if it's even close to as good as the first mafia.
I don't think you can keep a game from being similar to gta if it's a 3rd person shooter and you can drive cars and shoot people.
Kind of like how quake 3 is similar to halo because they're both FPS games and how settlers is similar to civilization.
E6500, 3GB, 48701GB.
Runs beautifully at 1600x1200, everything on/max (except AA and physx) ~40FPS the whole time. Drops to around 20FPS with AA on though which is a shame.
Uploaded a video to YouTube.
Just played through the demo, and I have to say, this is looking really good. I'm impressed with all the detail in the environment and also the soundtrack.
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Ramirez, purchase this game!
Awesome! Ive been waiting for this game for ages =D
8 long years man, 8 long years.
Been, waiting for this game for a long time. The original was the perfect blend of story, music and graphics that created an amazing and complete experience. Will grab the demo when I get home.
Has anyone else downloaded that timer patch, and then had a shootout with the police, and civilians after murdering the gun shop owner?
yes i have, unlimited ammo ftw. I also did this in the diner and kept eating as cops came in swarms :)
How did you get unlimited ammo?
ok you got me, it wasn't really unlimited, but the ammo on the shelves that i could steal kept me going for a long time
Oh darn, I was hoping for some cheat to give me unlimited ammo. I used the ammo from the shelves as well.
Should I play the first game before the second?
Absolutely! Go for the story, graphics and else not important. But missions are really interesting. Thats for sure. First few missions (like taxing people around town, or smashing opponents cars) are not that interesting but later on it gets real exciting and fun.
Apparently you can edit your license plate at a repair shop. Talk about attention to details. Hell GTA4 didn't even have random plates.
What can I say? I enjoy the classics.
This game looks and better than GTA 4 and has better optimization.
I read on the mafia2 forum the demo will be a mission from the game, but in a different setting/time as the full game.
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Can't wait to come home from work and play this.
I can't see anywhere in steam or on the steam website with a link to the demo. Where is this download?
You see that green box that says "Available: August 24th, 2010"? Look to the right of that.
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Click the link the OP gives and click 'download' and when it asks for a program to open it with find steam.
Same thing with me when I went to the same page on the steam store through my steam application.:P
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The first thing i picked up was a playboy with actual boobs. Real classy game.
The gameplay/graphics/sound are good. Looks like the game will be everything they promised.
timer patch: http://filebeam.com/16c96e23916bdc64067360d199dcc3c5
apply patch to (\Steam\steamapps\common\mafia ii - public demo\pc\Mafia2.exe)
enjoy.
DIY:
NOP instruction FST DWORD PTR DS:[ESI+4C] ( D9 56 4C ) at 004F5F86.
Seems very promising, thoughts so far:
THE MUSIC
Open two at the same time... awesome.
Am I supposed to launch the .exe? cause it wont let me do that.
Your patch link has stopped working from too many downloads. Care to re-up to Filevo?
Filevo Mirror
Oh ffs > FTP Mirror
Filevo is kind of awesome for file sharing, it's also run by a redditor, and has it's own sub-reddit. I could have hosted it on an FTP too, but didn't want to risk the reddit bandwith hit, and I'd like to promote a product (filevo) I enjoy.
Keep trying, it works eventually.
A small tip for the driving. Bind one of your side mouse buttons, or whatever you feel like, to the speed limiter. If you start to get out of control hit the limiter and then take it off. I use it to turn probably more than e-brake.
For anyone having performance problems with physx, try out this tweak. It helped improve my performance a great deal.
i did this tweak but still it slows the game down dramatically. you really need a beast PC to put this on high
Why the hell is AVG telling me this is a virus...
Because AVG is fucking terrible?
I get that a lot with no-CD cracks & such. Methinks it's being over-vigilant.
A crack in anything generally tries to over-ride 'data' and inject other 'data' into a pool of 'data' when the pool of 'data' clearly does not need that to happen. Now that's the basic structure of what most virus's do aswell. Ironically all cracks are technically virus's none the less..
Guess it's doing its job then?
That may be so, but this is an altered version of the executable. I could understand that anti-virus software may go trippy on patches that crack software, but why would an altered version of the executable raise a flag?
Aside from that, the simple NOP replacement instruction that the OP speaks of isn't really reflected in the thousands upon thousands of difference my HEX editor is pointing out. It's not just like a block of assembly code was removed, the executable is simply completely different.
Adding NOP (do nothing) instructions is part of a general strategy to exploit software to run arbitrary instructions, like what a virus might do. More Info
I tried to rob the department store and got shot by a black guy who was carrying concealed.
And I loved every second of it.
The only occurrence I can find of FST DWORD PTR DS:[ESI+0x4C] is at 0x006a0bf5, and changing it to an NOP (90 0f 1f) doesn't appear to have any effect.
The disassembly of 0x004f5f86 is LEA EAX DWORD PTR DS:[ESP+0x30]. Changing this to NOP has no effect, either.
Am I doing something wrong? Has anybody else done this manually?
I figured it out! Replace d9 56 4c at 0x000f5386 to 99 99 99 and you're set to go. (0x004f5f86 stated in the OP is the virtual address. D'oh!)
Now just manage staying alive for longer than 10 minutes.
Thanks a lot, you saved my evening.
Driving is awkward I can't adjust. Otherwise everything is perfect, and I can't believe how good the game performs.
Performance upgrades at a garage greatly improved my stolen corvette, there's more than 1 upgrade too.