r/Favors•
kleinbl00

You may have noticed the emergence of /r/assistance. I thought I might share the story of its inception.

We Get Letters

So, three days ago the r/favors mod mailbox recieved this from the account "solidasarock:"

Somebody suggest i post to r/favors, I did but my post disappeared, Did I do something wrong?, I know i forgot to put [request] at the front.

Should i repost with [request] ?

http://www.reddit.com/r/Favors/comments/d3tco/hi_favors_somebody_suggested_i_post_in_here_can/

Anomander, being the gentleman and scholar that he is, responded with:

Well. This is awkward.

While not "wrong" per se, the problem lies in the request. You'll note the sidebar where we state that "/r/Favors will not manipulate votes for you." This was something the community settled on just after it was founded, and we have held on to since.

Your request falls solidly within the purview of that rule.

There ya go. That's the way we roll 'round here. Your view behind the curtain. Things should have ended there.


But They Didn't

Two days ago, the account "thegoanna" posted a tirade in r/reddit.com about how Reddit is full of wonderful people, and things are great, but obviously all the "newbies" are dragging things down and doesn't it suck and "my friend" was just trying to win a car and evil "wasps" got up in her shit about vegetarianism or some such. This link was included in the post. Obviously, that link has been edited for reasons that are about to become obvious.


Ain't No Drama Like Reddit Drama

Now - I'm a fan of Reddit. And I didn't like seeing it being called a "hive of wasps" (or whatever) because people weren't particularly interested in helping a person win a car. I said as much. Things then went down the shitter with such stunning rapidity that I found it worthy of note. This led to a great deal of drama, lots of namecalling, and the creation of r/assistance which, with exactly one subscriber, started pruning the deadwood.


Down But Not Out

Both thegoanna and solidasarock proceeded to delete their accounts in a cloud of indignation. r/assistance, however, has now set forth to be ["basically r/favors."](http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/d54tt/redditors_helping_redditors_join_our_team_its_the/) I've got a guess as to where thegoanna and solidasarock went, but it's just a guess. Apologies to anyone I have slighted who do not deserve to be.


No Skin Off Our Nose

Obviously, "people helping people" is something we can all get behind. And clearly - if you feel r/assistance is a place you can help out more than r/favors, you should add it to your frontpage. However, I felt it necessary to provide the backstory of how, exactly, it came about...

...because I've seen too many good things happen in this subreddit to see it sapped for vindictive reasons.

Thanks and carry on,

kleinbl00

Posted Aug 25, 2010, 7:37 AM UTC

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dkesh•

Hi kleinbl00,

I think r/favors is run very well. Personally, I get burned out on requests to help people win online competitions, so I'm glad for the rules here. But one of the great things about reddit is that the existence of one community really doesn't hurt another. If somebody wants an r/favors with tons of help-my-friend-win-a-competition, more power to them. Don't let it get to you.

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kleinbl00OP•

Oh, I concur wholeheartedly. Again, I've banned none of them, probably won't, and invite everyone interested in participating to hie themselves over there.

I did not, however, want anyone to go over there expecting great things only to find out exactly why r/assistance exists. My conscience is now clear.

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bechus•

Reddit drama is like a drop of blood in a sea of sharks. Everyone will get worked into a frenzy... for absolutely nothing.

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Kitchenfire•

D R A M A

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[deleted]•

That guy totally had a pregnant.

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cowinabadplace•

This is awesome. We can sting these people and we won't die. I love my new-found wasp life.

Also, this is cool.

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arasari•

Yeah, i've always wanted to be a wasp!

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_Kita_•

Ahh, thanks so much for the clarification :)

I love r/favors and really appreciate the hard work the mods do to keep it awesome.

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mobileF•

On one hand: that was a fun little story. On the other hand: why not let the downvotes handle this request? On the third hand: lies deeper understanding.

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Ftech•

On the third hand: I must be tripping pretty hard.

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Anomander•

Wow. I told her "please-win-me-a-car" post to take a hike, but missed all the LOLDRAMA that followed.

I'm kinda bummed I only got to see the show after the fact, actually.

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kleinbl00OP•

It was far more "tedious" than "amusing."

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orpossiblykoln•

I just got lost in those links... came back to this page on another tab and then later closed out a tab when I thought I had this one still open. I gotta say, I wish there was a little more pay-off after hanging in there that long, but after careful consideration, I choose... KLEINB100'S SIDE!

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KrazyA1pha•

I was expecting the story of Inception, but got this instead.

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chungkaishek•

Keep on keepin' on, kleinbl00!

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[deleted]•

Not their personal army

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[deleted]•

wait.... so I'm not supposed to frontpage r/assistance?

this is r/weed and r/trees all over again.

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kleinbl00OP•

No, dude. Go ahead. But, just like everyone knows why r/trees came about, I felt it important for everyone to know how r/assistance came about.

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[deleted]•

I N C E P T I O N

FTFY

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[deleted]•

The ONLY reason I came to the comments section here was to downvote whoever was going to post this.

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[deleted]•

"Yep, ZenGaba has been known to visit the comments section just to read my posts..."

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[deleted]•

I knew SOMEONE was going to do it. The hivemind... it's just... too strong here.

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exoendo•

omg who gives a fuck? some random redditors that no one has ever heard of got mad at a mod of a d-list subreddit and went off to form another subreddit that has currently basically no subscribers.

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[deleted]•

Assistance is not interested in any fighting over a misunderstanding By kleinbl00 with thegoanna and solidasarock and only serves to be able to organise Assistance for people who need it and to grow a network of people who can assist others either generally or with specific skills and resources.

There are many other help reddits all through reddit.com with many themes and formats covering many subjects all working together and we will continue to support them all by referring people where needed.

We don't consider requests for assistance to be r/favors and to avoid childish fighting we wont be responding to kleinbl00's other misleading posts or threads on the matter.

Peace to all.

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s_m_c•

Sounds like a haven for beggars and leeches. Help me win a car indeed. I really really need a trip on SpaceShipOne. Please donate so I can afford it. I really feel I'm entitled to it.

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kleinbl00OP•

...and good luck winning the Honda.

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