Expendable 4*?

❓Roster Question🤔

Returning player here. Left after the introduction of 4* XForce.

Now I’m starting to build my 2* farm.

Short on roster spots. I’m thinking of selling a few 4* that I only have 1 cover of, in order to concentrate on building my 2* and then 3* roster.

I have the following 4* with just 1 cover:

Red Hulk The Hulk (Totally Awesome) Mr. Fantastic Medusa

Any and all advice would be appreciated.

Apologies if I’ve posted this question in the wrong place. I didn’t find a question megathread.

Posted Dec 9, 2019, 3:01 PM UTC

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Eagle83•

Don't sell Medusa, afaik she's one of the best 4*s

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ZMemberOP•

Thx! I needed to know that! :)

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Listener42...is not very good at this game.•

Red Hulk has the ability to destroy green AP, so I'd hold onto him.

Of those four, I think Totally Awesome Hulk is probably the best to let go of.

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ZMemberOP•

Thanks very much. I need the roster space. Still have 5 2* to roster!

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AlienJL76•

Whatever happens keep Medusa.

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ZMemberOP•

Appreciate it. Thx.

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AlienJL76•

You’re welcome.:)

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Daiches•

All 3 are great to good. Medusa - RHulk - Mr F is the order. L

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erikpeter5½ years of MPQ•

Personally I'd keep Chulk too (unless it's just his black cover). He's not great but he's got his uses, seems like he's always powered up in boss events, e.g. Sinister Six, where his green becomes very useful for the targeted tile destruction.

But if it's just one cover don't worry about selling him, you'll get more.

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ZMemberOP•

Thanks. Will do.

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ZMemberOP•

Thx very much

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CJGibsonMod award: Strategist Supreme •

In terms of actual use value of the four stars themselves: Medusa >> Red Hulk >> TAH > Mr. F

Three out of the four of these currently or will soon give five star covers/shards from their champ rewards: Medusa->Black Bolt, Mr. Fantastic->Silver Surfer, TAH->The Hulk. In terms of the use value of those fives: BB >>> Silver Surfer > Hulk.

I would probably drop TAH or Mr. F, leaning towards Mr F.

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ZMemberOP•

Thanks. That helps quite a bit!

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Galeshi13⭐ All Rostered•

Welcome back! As far as I'm tracking, Medusa is the one to keep! I've heard really good things about Red Hulk though, and can't really say much on the other two.

In case you missed it from recent discourse in the subreddit, they're updating how champ rewards work in order to better service the new character's that they've added. I know you're a ways away from it, but it might be worth for someone to check and see what these character's feed into, and keep these covers rostered in case they end up feeding into something valuable.

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ZMemberOP•

Thx for that info :)

And thanks for the warm welcome back.

I’m actually sad to see the updated champ rewards, because of the drastic loss of HP, which is the one thing that’s really holding me back atm.

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Galeshi13⭐ All Rostered•

I hear you. I think it'll tip into being worth it when you get to that point where you're pushing into 5s, as that sounds darn-near untenable pre-update. The other thing I'll note with the transition is that you don't have to worry about the shards you'll get expiring, like you would with a cover. I've kept from leveling strange for awhile in order to keep from getting a 4star cover that I didn't want to receive, and that's almost a thing of the past with the future update giving you a colorless cover worth of shards.

Fortunately I think I'm just getting past that point of concern for HP, as my 3s are getting champed fairly regularly and my 2s are pushing to be maxed all at once. I'll be eating 350 less HP over the life of the 3s, but I've not been getting too much from them yet anyway, and am doing fine. Looks like I might see an average reduction of about 20-30 HP a day?

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ZMemberOP•

Good information. I hope they can make HP more common in progression rewards to help make up for it :)

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erikpeter5½ years of MPQ•

What's this "cover worth of shards" future update you speak of?

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ItsAllmanDoe69BeefHammer69 (&)•

Instead of rewarding covers from champ levels, they’re rewarding the equivalent amount of shards for the character so you can apply them to whichever color cover you’d like.

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Galeshi13⭐ All Rostered•

As the other individual said!

https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/80703/r192-champion-rewards-updates

Here's a link to it.

It comes with it's benefits and downsides. We're getting 60 less HP over the total-course of 2star progression, and 350 less over the 3star progression, as they've replaced some of the level-benefits with bundles of shards. I don't think I'll miss it, but I can see someone fighting their vine for Roster Space finding that to be egregious.

The good side of that trade-off is that after the first cover upgrade, you're getting colorless shards that you can apply to any power that hero has - 2 covers worth - over the course of that Champ Progression (to maintain your total covers gained at 3 covers).

this means no fighting with the vine. Additionally, now everyone has a feeder. Some 3stars get "Primary" and "Secondary" feeders. Primary progression works as normal, but instead of "1000 ISO" rewards, you'll get shard progression towards a cover for a Secondary feeder.

Hope this helps!

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AlienJL76•

-In case you missed it from recent discourse in the subreddit, they're updating how champ rewards work in order to better service the new character's that they've added-

So they’re adding more feeders ?

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Galeshi13⭐ All Rostered•

Yep! The system of feeding is getting tweaked as of R192.

2's feeders are staying the same, but 3s, 4s, and 5s got a revamp to who-feeds into who. Many of the 3s now have Primary and Secondary feeders to cover.

You'll still get 3 covers worth over the course of the champ progression (3 primary, 1 secondary, for those with secondary feeders), but instead most of it will come in over multiple levels in the form of shards that you can apply to any color.

The downside that people are tracking is that you're forfeiting about 60 HP for 2s and about 350 HP for 3s over the course of champ progression.

Time will tell if it turns into a situation where D3GO is trying to give a death by 1000 cuts, but as it stands, I'm not seeing myself hurting for HP, but as OP suggested, hopefully they give other opportunities to scoop up some HP to make up for the loss in the future!

EDIT https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/80703/r192-champion-rewards-updates

Here's the link to the update in question, in case you wanted a head start on who feeds into who. I'd probably not sell any Max'd champs until the update comes, because it sounds like they're going to be trying to do something like pay the difference for a period before the update hits? That information should be forthcoming.

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ZMemberOP•

For 2* I am missing: Magneto, Moonstone, Captain Marvel, and Bullseye.

For 3* I am missing: Bullseye, Elektra, Gambit, Starlord, Hawkeye, Kamala Khan, Quiksilver

And thanks. Sadly, I don’t have those 4* you mentioned. I left MPQ before 4* was really a thing. Only one I use is XForce.

Edit: I misread your question. For 4*, I have a 553 XForce, a 445 Invisible Girl, a 154 Devil Dinosaur, a 532 Nick Fury, 113 Thor, 101 Worthy.

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mgush5Only Angel and Thanos left in 3* to champ•

As someone who had a 3.5 year gap, knowing how hard it is focus on adding the 2* first. There is a thing called bracket flipping, in that using the spreadsheet: www.tinyurl.com/mpqbracket you wait for a bracket to flip (you should only be looking at SCL6 & 7) and then joining it early and hitting it hard. You can easily get top 50 and that will generate the HP you need to roster everyone.

If he's not already put the shard marker on Dr Strange and get his yellow up to 5 ASAP, make sure to use Deadpool once a day (I use him and IM40 with the required on deadpool daily no mater what) but don't open any new tokens if you don't have the HP to roster someone new. Elites first, one by one until you have every 2* and 3* - standards open in blocks of 50 and that will be a guaranteed 300 shards to up a 3* cover so you can move it round when you do those. NEVER spend command points right now, nor do you open any Latest Legends tokens, if you do that down the line you wil get a mega bump when you do. I'm around day 460 and have loads but I know if I unload I could screw my PvP game up and that is a great source of HP if I don't screw it

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ZMemberOP•

I need to read this a few times but it seems like a wealth of info!! What is bracket flip?

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mgush5Only Angel and Thanos left in 3* to champ•

If you are doing the Honor Among thieves event look at the number of players, it is likely 1000. Bracket flipping is waiting until the slice you want hits 1000 people and you join a new one, so there will only be a few dozen in there when you do. Sometimes it means sacrificing the first subevent (in this case Starlord alone if you read the story pages), but the rewards in the placement you get by waiting make up for it, if you get the hang of it, it is the most effective way to earn HP which is what you really need until you are a few years deep into the game. I'm nowhere close and I've got all 2 and 3s rostered and about half the 4s and I am still massively short, but I don't pay a penny into the game

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