29% of internet connections in Europe are over 10Mbit?! WTF Bell, Rogers and all the rest!
bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11840736Posted Nov 25, 2010, 11:26 PM UTC
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I run 15Mb at home on Shaw in Calgary, it's pretty affordable too. Their base connection speed now is 7.5Mb
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whats your upload speed? I don't even care about download speed anymore. I would give my left nut for a 5mbit down 5mbit up but it wont happen for a while I suspect...
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I feel your pain man. All I want to do is be able to seed a frickin movie to 1:0 without it taking a whole day.
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Only 1 meg up sadly, but I get that pretty consistently. Shaw has a 100Mb down 5Mb up connection, but it's $150 a month, so not really worth it.
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Yeah 15MB/sec in the Toronto area here. Almost everyone in this area has the same connection / provider and I can max it out around the clock.
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Yeah, we're pretty screwed. I think we have the among the highest, if not the highest, broadband rates in the world.
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Everyone can bitch and moan, but thats what happens when you have a population living on narrow string of land that spans thousands of kilometers. Our infrastructure costs are just higher - simple as that -it's the price we pay when we live in the second largest country in the world with only 3X million people.
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What you forget to mention is that you pay for that as a taxpayer. Didn't you know that government grants paid for the entire groundwork of the Internet in Canada and in some cases still pays anywhere from 25+% to 100% of the infrastructure costs involved?
What you are citing is a myth perpetuated by a Bell/TELUS PR campaign that is readily disseminated by the MSM as fact.
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Yeah, down vote me because I have a different opinion.
Actually this "myth" came from one of the more knowledgeable engineers at my work. But hey, i'm not a technical employee, I just deal with the clients.
Interesting, I didn't know that Canadian Internet was a crown project. I would like source information if possible.
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Sadly it's hard to come across info like that. If you google Internet funding by province you can find provincial government websites that talk about their funding. Some provinces provide more information than others.
Federal funding is very hard to come by in terms of information. However some of those funds is funneled through non-profits like this: http://www.canarie.ca/en/home
I actually had a lot of links on this subject a few years ago but trying to look them up now for over an hour and I can't find them. There is no centralized documentation on Internet funding in Canada that I could locate. One issue with proving sources is that they come from government websites that clean up their content after a few years.
Originally when I wrote a letter to the CRTC to complain about Bell trying to sink small ISPs I got a lot of my info from here: http://www.infc.gc.ca/infc-eng.html
Strangely most of that info has since been scrubbed.
However provincial funding is generally around 25-100% of the initial costs to lay the backbone. This varies from budget to budget year to year.
Would be nice if the CBC did an expose on the subject.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/ebtg9/29_of_internet_connections_in_europe_are_over/c16wzsx
Too lazy to type it all out.
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i get 25/2 with rogers....
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And you pay out the ass.
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49/month
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Really? What province if you don't mind me asking?
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somewhere out east... in the west we have shaw.
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toronto, ontario
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Its intentional. They want to make sure we are accustomed to slower speeds so that they can be more profitable laters when they up the price and charge for every GB in response to us ditching all forms of legacy content delivery in exchange for Internet based content legal or otherwise. Remember, the companies that control our ISP's are the same ones that control the content. In fact that is the very reason they went into the ISP business to begin with. They always knew what was to come. That said I am on a 15Mb connection from Telus, however they only give an additional 25% transfer with your 3x increase in speed.
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I'm with telus too, they really don't track your usage. I know for a fact that I go over the allotment each month and they've yet to charge me an extra penny.
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I'm on Rogers with 50MBPS...
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I get 7.5 mbps for internet and only pay $20 for digital basic and internet. These comapnies are easy to haggle with.
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I'm getting 20Mb down and .50mb up from Shaw in edmonton but it's $60 a month
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I have 15mb down and 1mb up for $20 a month on Shaw.
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30Mb with Eastlink in Nova Scotia, and 100Mb is available. They throttle torrents though...
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They do? then how can I download a fresh big bang ep in about 90-120 sec without doing anything special besides buying a router that's not crap? are you sure you're testing against properly seeded torrents to actually pull full speed?
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I'm not saying that they throttle it to the point that it's unusable, but it is throttled. I use private trackers where the S/L ratio is about 1000:1, so it's definitely not a problems with seeders. Downloading a popular 300MB file in 2 minutes isn't really that impressive.
Try some speed tests using different protocols and compare.
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300Megabytes in 2 minutes is 20 megabits/second. that's 2/3s utilization on a 30mbit connection, not counting overhead.
You may have 1000:1 seed ratios, but what's the mean and modal upload speed of those seeds, and how many connections are you supporting? I admit, I haven't been on private trackers since my favorite closed years ago, but lots of people were on connections with really bad upload.
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I'm in Calgary at i have a 25mb connection that runs constantly 24+ actual
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That argument is bullshit. A lot of our population lives in areas of similar/ifnotgreater densities to our European and Eastern Asian brethren.
I remember checking various cities in Japan and comparing their density to Vancouver. Cities of similar densities had Docsis 3.0 or better internet available in their areas for fair prices. The Quebec City-Windsor Corridor has 18 million people living in a 1000 km "narrow strip of land". It's dense enough to be considered a fucking megalopolis with a combination of docsis 3.0, vdsl2, and fibre we should be having speeds upwards of 10mbps all over that bitch.
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I have 15 down/1 up in Edmonton. And I can get up to 100 mbit down if I want to pay for it.