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patchmod

I think the the show should've ended in the second last episode

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First off, I'd like to recongize how much this show has helped addicted people change and a happy ending is definitely a great thing for that, but from a cinematic standpoint.

I feel like the last episode should've been it, bojacks (maybe another unpopular opinion) last attempt to control someone in his suicide and he should've died there. I think it should've ended with bojack lightly crying, and Diane saying simply "are you ok" and bojack never getting to answer. To let the audience draw their own conclusions on whether or not he finally accepted his death.

No follow ups, now "where are they now" because this is it, the bojack show and it ends with a struggling addict going to his past ways and reaching for his old control (controlling others, whether he intends to or not) as I really feel the last few episodes shown that when in a crisis he really hasn't grown at all, he panics, makes excuses and goes back to all that "PR" shit.

maybe this is a popular or unpopular or completely wrong post, sorry if the title is too spoiler-y I tried to keep as vague as possible. I haven't read much on this subreddit I just thought the second last episode was a really mind bending thing that actually effected me a lot and I think the episode after ruined it, which still having good moments just didn't keep up with the tempo.

Posted Feb 3, 2020, 8:18 PM UTC

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Zachariot88•

I disagree. I get where you're coming from, but I appreciate that they gave the show a coda that didn't feel like a finale. One of the biggest themes of the show is that you really can't model your life after the rhythms of tv shows. I liked that we got a sense that everyone's lives would plod along, we just wouldn't be privy to it.

Similar to you wanting the show to end on a down note that provides closure, I know some people have expressed a desire for the show to have ended with The Face of Depression, which would essentially have been the happy version of the same thing.

The more I think about the ending we got, the more I like it. It was unsatisfying. So is accepting the ramifications of one's life choices and moving forward.

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patchmodOP•

I appreciate the response, and I really agree with your conclusion on how everyone's life just plods on, one of my favorite parts was how I could see how no one was being controlled around bojack anymore and all just had their own lives that could spread into their own wins and losses.

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sorkaem•

I love the ending we got.

We got to meet these characters at some point of their lives and spent 6-7 years of those lives with them. Now we leave them to continue living. There's no closure, because that's how life is. We can hope that Bojack will slowly become better : he'll be better, then he'll relapse, then he'll try again. The same goes for everyone else.

If you want closure, there's another story going on that was closed. The first episode is the meeting of Bojack and Diane, the last episode is their separation. The show is about two damaged people meeting, forming a meaningful friendship and drifting apart because one of them was able to fix their issues and find happiness and the other wasn't able to change and face all the damage they had caused...

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patchmodOP•

I also really like the ending, as I said above I think seeing all the characters branch off is great but I just feel like him not dying was a bit of a cop out, maybe I didn't include enough of this above.

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He seemed to have improved, but then it all went down hill and he became old him and even in that last episode it really felt like It threw away everything the show worked towards.

I think the ending were we know the characters got away from the toxic bojack is great, but I would've much rathered if it ended on the second last one it would've tied the show together and yeah I do want closure, on bojack the character of the show but not any of the other characters. I just don't really see the point in all of that just to be like, "Ok so all of his progress is gone, he died because of this now he's alive."

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I hope (just assuming from downvoted post) people don't think I'm trying to shit on the show (I really liked it, and really liked the ending we got)

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sorkaem•

I don't take it like you're shitting on the show.
I can understand wanting the grandiose ending, but I feel like this ending is more in the spirit of the show.

The progress didn't really happen until season 6 and when it happened Bojack had caused too much damage to get away with it. The good thing is that now he faced the consequences of all the things he did, he lost a lot of things because of it (his legacy in Horsin'Around, Hollyhock, Diane...). Now he can start again and try to become better. He'll probably fail, and try again. He'll be better each time. Maybe he'll find peace at some point, we can't know. But that's how it goes :)

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RocskatuLernernerner DiCarpricorn•

I see your point but, no. Bojack doesn't deserve to die on the last episode. Just like herb said, he has to live with all the shitty things he's done.

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patchmodOP•

That's actually a really interesting angle, maybe bojack himself doesn't deserve closure.

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