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r/Darksiders•
Rageniry

Genesis is very buggy (at least on console release)

Problem

I've been playing local coop with my gf for the past few days and we've ran into a whole slew of bugs, ranging from small nuisance to game breaking to the point that we had to restart the level.

Here's some of them:

the void portals are broken as hell. Basically all the puzzles where you need to bounce up and down the void portals to reach an high altitude are like a lottery. The bounce just restarts at the lowest altitude after x jumps sometimes, it's very inconsistent. Strife can overcome this with his aerial dash but war is Sol when this happens.

Getting stuck in invisible walls when doing creative shortcuts. A game where it is this easy to get stuck should have an unstuck feature of some kind, resulting in required level restart to proceed.

The spawned gates which are invulnerable until you kill all enemies can get get stuck in that mode despite all enemies being killed. Resulting in a required level restart to proceed.

The status menu when hovering a level in vulgrims pool which shows your progress with regard to upgrades obtained in the level frequently show incorrect information, same with the ingame map.

The ingame map has no player cursors.

Sometimes your character gets stuck at walking speed, you have to die or jump off a ledge to get your movement speed back.

Massive fps drops can happen for no particular reason.

The subtitles are completely off for the cinematic segments.

... to name a few. What's your experience with ds:g? I can't recall the last time I played a game this buggy at release. Several of these bugs are really frustrating.

Posted Feb 17, 2020, 9:15 PM UTC

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senyorlimpio•

Yes. The subs not syncing is annoying. Also yes, the fact that theres no player cursor on the map is just poor design. It makes me not want to go back for stuff i have missed, having to just estimate my location.

My gripe too is the camera distance. I know its going for a more active camera than say, Diablo, but i personally find it so tiny. I honestly have to stand up close to my tv to play sometimes.

As for the actual bugs, ive encountered a few walk speed bugs, but i can usually correct it by aiming and cancelling aim.

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RageniryOP•

My gripe too is the camera distance. I know its going for a more active camera than say, Diablo, but i personally find it so tiny. I honestly have to stand up close to my tv to play sometimes.

Yeah. The camera has a whole slew of issues as well. The most infuriating one is that it doesn't phase out terrain from vision when you are behind it so you frequently end up having to reposition in fights to get away from the giant rock formation blocking 80% of your vision.

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breakingcustoms•

Glad I saw this. I'll wait it out a few weeks then hopefully most bugs will be squashed

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Have_A_Jelly_Baby•

Definitely some kinks to be worked out. Still tons of fun though.

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SexyBlueTiger•

For the void portals it took me until pretty late in the game to figure them out. If you are just going in and out of the same portal hoping momentum picks up, that isn't the correct way.

No icons on the map seems like design choice.

I played on PC release with my wife and can't say we had that many stuck issues. Sorry to hear that on your end.

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RageniryOP•

How do they work then? Our workaround has been to trying different ways to jump into the first portal (from different altitudes) and sometimes it works and the altitude keeps increasing until you reach the objective.

In my opinion they behave so inconsistently that there is no way I'd believe they are working as intended unless you have some surefire way to make them work that we haven't tried. Even if it does the game makes no attempt to communicate to the player how the portal bouncing works. Sometimes the jump fizzle on the 5th bounce every time for war but every 8th bounce for strife. On another run of the same map it's not the same and it might not fizzle at all for war but on the 6th for strife etc.

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SexyBlueTiger•

They are a bit finicky, if you are still trying to adjust you place as you hit the portal. I find that causes the most instant fizzle.

The best way (and the way I think they are meant to work) is by going in a circle through the void portals. Imagine if you have a left and right portal. You jump in the left portal and come out of the right portal. Use any momentum to move yourself back towards the left portal and go through it again. You come out the right again, a bit higher and move back towards the left. You do this 3-4 times you'll end up 4-5 times higher than just going in the left, out the right, in the right, out the left like a U shape.

If you are still struggling, I can make a video, or see if someone else made one already.

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RageniryOP•

Does this also work in the map where you retrieve two discs from rooms that will fill with lava (the name escapes me)? In the left room there is an epic chest that you reach by doing a void portal puzzle. I'm at work so I can't check right now, but these two portals are so far away from each other and at such different altitudes that I think you would need to reach extreme heights to be able to do what you are suggesting.

Either way, we've tried this way as well and abandoned the idea because it kept fizzling so we thought it didn't work. The problem with the portals seems to be that you can go into them from extreme altitudes and speeds and be flung just a few feet off the ground on the other side, seemingly at random.

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SexyBlueTiger•

For the 2 disc level, you should be able to get just get enough height by jumping into the lava portal once you've opened it.

I agree it can fizzle, I would say just try to get your alignment and left go of the movement stick before you hit the portal. My wife struggled with it, so she had me do all of these bits. It honestly took until near the end of the game before I figured out the circle method and got better at not killing the momentum. Our 2nd and 3rd playthroughs I was much better at them. They could definitely be improved though.

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DikJay•

When playing the co-op my friend who plays war constantly falls through the floor and is stuck in the abyss. Has to be booted from the game. Just gets a black or orange screen. On my screen it will just show me his player cursor at the bottom of the screen. Its frustrating AF. We cant get pst the third chapter as it keeps happening.

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RageniryOP•

This happened to us as one of two elevator bugs (when the elevator causes a loading screen). One was that when the load screen finished we were both perpetually falling in a completely black void. Had to abandon mission and restart.

In the other bug war disappeared when the load screen finished. Had to go to a co-op stone and deactivate and reactivate co-op for him to show up again.

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Venom3386•

I think you are using the portals wrong. I collected everything in every map, and never had a puzzle that required bouncing through the same 2 portals over and over. I dont think they were meant to be used that way, which might be why they aren't working for you.

It seems like a lot of the bugs come from coop, I played through the whole thing solo and im playing through it on apocalyptic difficulty now and i'm not encountering most of these, other then the subtitles being out of sync.

man I envy you if this is the buggiest game you recall playing. lol. im used to bugs like "oh your save file is corrupted, guess you gotta start from scratch" heck just last week I was playing Warcraft 3 and its random, defeat bug. Sucks you aren't enjoying it. hopefully they will get a patch or 2 out.

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RageniryOP•

Yes we had a discussion around that in one of the threads here if you are interested. I still think the void portals are broken in a way because the way they function ingame is extremely counterintuitive to what you should do when you encounter those puzzles.

I'm enjoying the game, it's not that. It's just that being forced to restart levels 1-3 times per play session because of bugs is not fun, and the number of "small nuisance to major inconvenience" bugs is too damn high. I haven't tried the solo experience so I can't comment on that, but I can tell you that in co-op mode there are a lot of bugs that happen frequently. I don't think this game had sufficient QA time before release, most of what we encountered should become evident through just a couple of hours of gameplay considering the frequency of the bugs.

I played wc3 reforged as well, and it sure is buggy but I definitely consider the campaign experience of w3 reforged more polished in terms of bugs. That game is a trainwreck for many reasons, and I refunded it. I wouldn't try to request a refund for ds:g, because I like the game when it works and I'd like to support the studio. I do have to speak my mind that this amount of bugs on release should be unacceptable. It's a really bad trend going on in the game business in general, and I think customers should try to be vocal about that even when it's otherwise good games from studios you like.

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Venom3386•

Wasn’t trying to say you aren’t having these issues. You asked if anyone else felt that I was giving my answer. It’s all relative.

In my experience, Genesis has been far more polished them Warcraft 3. I have had any character models appear as pink and black cubes in Genesis for example, but I had them in Warcraft 3. I never have to restart a level in Genesis but I had to 3 times in the tutorial level of Warcraft. Your experience doesn’t match mine is all I’m saying.

In your defense of the portals, the game doesn’t do a great job of explaining all of its mechanics. There are a couple of puzzles late game, where the portal target wouldn’t reach far enough to throw a portal to the surface. Spent 20 minutes trying to find the right angle before I accidentally realized that the portal balls bounce off of flat surfaces and I was supposed to bounce it into the target. The game didn’t mention that was a mechanic. Or if it did, it was glossed over so fast that I missed it.

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SourJam•

It's buggy, but most are a minor annoyance (double-echo in HUB?).
I've played for 10+ hours and it's the most fun I've had with SP game in years.
Have you played Borderlands 3? I beat that game once, I refuse to go back to it due to terrible technical problems that have not been addressed since release - poor frame rate, extremely-glitchy character menu, etc.
At least this game is playable and fun.

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BRRazil•

We've not encountered quite so many bugs, but the split screen implementation drives me bonkers. I wouldn't mind it were the game to dynamically split and join, but my wife and I have both felt stcuk on a puzzle until we realized the piece was needed was outside BOTH camera views.

Text is also cut off weirdly by the split, and the camera randomly gets drunk and looses focus.

Other than that, enjoying the hell out of it. Super nice to have a coop game again, even if it does continue the trend of only awarding achievements to the primary profile (not a super big deal, but a really annoying trend this gen)

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