Is It Ethical To Go Climbing In The Gym?
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Posted Mar 13, 2020, 8:45 PM UTC
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it seems both dumb, and unethical
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Many gyms in Toronto are closing their doors (e.g. The Hub, and True North) for a bit. Given that the weather's pretty good right now I'm intending on getting some outdoor time in.
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That's smart, but it's tough for me to get outside except on the weekends. Guess I'll just have to focus on my shitty hangboard during the week.
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I went last Thursday and thought the same. Also, the hall was much emptier than usual. I was considering going again during the weekend, in case they close eventally.
But again, is it a good decision in regards to myself (getting infected) and in regards to good conduct during the outbreak (setting a good example, avoiding crowds)?
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I think the answer is probably "we shouldn't go", but no one wants to admit it.
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This. Already committed to avoiding the gym and doing whatever workouts I can at home and my city has maybe 19 cases. I work in an office where there would be high chances for it to be passed around.
Will be freezing my monthly pass for a couple months tmrw. Ethics aside it's about more than just you at this point, everyone should be reducing social contact to help everyone imo.
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I’m not freezing my membership because I feel like it’s one little thing I can do to help the economy not collapse.
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That's actually a really good point! Depends if it is going to remain open though personally. I just paid this month so I might wait and she how things look next month.
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Truth and inconvenience hurts. But we all know that is the right answer.
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The gyms all closed so problem solved!
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I went to the climbing gym today and there were a total of 7 people on 1850m2. So going grocery shopping seemed more unethical than this. Maybe it's the same in your area (I'm from Austria).
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Yea but grocery shopping is necessary to survive, climbing isn't. The whole point of locking things down is to prevent unneeded exposure.
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I could just as well eat the 5kg of oats I have at home for the next two weeks. If we truly limit everything to what is needed to survive, then I don't really wanna survive anyways. If your gym has next to no people in it, then the risk of infection is pretty much nonexistent as it's almost always contracted through direct interaction with other people and not through something like the climbing holds.
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The purpose is to contribute to greater public health.
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Yes but it always depends on the circumstances. There isn't really a point in removing certain activities from ones life if it barely affects public health. If your gym was crowded then I'd also say no but if there are close to no people in it, then it doesn't really matter if you go or don't go.
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I think, if it's open and you aren't sick, it's not unethical to go.
If you're at all concerned about getting the virus, though, then you definitely shouldn't go.
If you might be sick, or you've interacted with someone who is sick, I think it'd be unethical to go
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My gym is closing as of tomorrow and the climbing organization advised against climbing outdoors as well. I feel like the same measures will follow very soon in Seattle so taking a personal responsibility now seems like a wise thing to do
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What is the reasoning behind discouraging outdoor climbing?
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If everyone decides to hit the local crag because the local gym is closed you’re going to run into the same issues, potentially directly interacting with a carrier or by touching rock that a carrier has touched. However I kinda doubt everyone is going to turn to outdoors just because the gym closes, probably only the very dedicated. If you’ve got one belay partner you usually climb with you will probably be OK to climb at less popular crags. Could also take up rope soloing
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I am personally not too worried about going climbing outside. But I think it's still important to take extra precautions.
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I don’t think it’ll be too bad unless you’re going somewhere where you wind up with multiple groups waiting for routes. Red Rocks in the busy season comes to mind.
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I'm in Tacoma and had this same conversation. As much as I don't want to I'm freezing my membership today. We all need to do our part.
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This whole social distancing thing works if everyone does it. There will be some selfish people (basically like anti-vaccine folks) who won't do what they can and will benefit from the sacrifices of others.
You can get sick and you can transmit the virus without symptoms.
This is a literal global pandemic and it's (probably) cranking to epidemic status in America over the next few weeks. Of all the times to take a hit for the safety of others, this is the time.
Go hiking, mountain biking, snowshoeing: you won't get anyone sick, you'll stay fit, and you'll be on the right side of history.
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I'm wondering the same thing. I'm young / healthy / and never interact with kids / old people. I would be totally ok getting sick, and staying home for two weeks. Honestly would find it preferable to not climbing for the next 6 months, but I want to do the right thing ethically as I know this is a very serious deal.
"just gonna get a little bit of coronavirus, stan"
it's not just about you directly giving it to somebody who might die, you have to think about giving it to somebody who might give it to a vulnerable person, and so on and so forth. just because you might not give it to somebody vulnerable, doesn't mean it can't get to that person in part because of you.
I'm injured atm so I can't climb/do much sport anyway. To be honest this couldn't have come at a better time for me
That's the boat I'm in, I will be working from home, but I don't want to get in the situation where I am forced to not see my parents, or keep my partner from being able to see their family.
Even if ur around kids it’s fine, not a single kid has died and most don’t even show strong symptoms