MA Bill would require microstamps etched to all firing pins imported to MA from 2012 on.

Here is the letter I wrote to my representative in the House:

A belated congratulations on your election to the house! As a member of the constituency that voted for you, I have a concern that I would like to thoughtfully bring to your attention.

There is currently a bill, H01561, that is advocating the addition of a microstamping feature to firearms. Since this is a very "anti-gun rights" state, I understand that that little stands in the way of adding more restrictions to the lawful ownership of firearms. I could speak for an hour on the gun rights issue, but I will simply state the fact that vehicular accidents cause more deaths in the Commonwealth than firearms, and will move on to the point I wish you to represent when voting on the Microstamping Ammunition bill.

First, I must make some technical distinctions. The title of the bill has the phrase "Microstamping Ammunition" in it. What you are talking about is microstamping the primer. The term "Ammunition" refers to the entire cartridge. "Bullet" refers to the lead or copper projectile, "Casing" refers to the brass casing that holds the gunpowder charge, and the primer is a small explosive charge that sets off the main powder charge to fire the bullet from the gun. This is just a technicality, but it is my firm belief that it is important to get it right.

Second, and potentially most important, is that Massachusetts has no firearms registry. So let’s say you shot me with a handgun and the cartridge fell on the ground next to my body. The police come and forensic investigators determine that the cartridge was micro-stamped. What are they going to compare it to? They will know the caliber, brand, and model of the gun, but how would this help police if the firearm cannot be produced?

Furthermore, what if somebody steals a firearm to commit a crime? Microstamped primers will only point to the last lawful owner of the firearm. This could potentially put an innocent person in prison, and you should decide if you want that on your shoulders. I certainly don't, and you represent me.

Any person who goes to a gun range could collect a handful of shell casings from the ground (these are typically discarded and left for the range owner to recycle) and plant them at a crime scene. Again, innocent people in jail?

Parts to a firearm are easily removed and replaced. A firing pin (the part that stamps the primer with the microstamp) is no different. Firing pins also wear down after repeated use, and can easily be filed down with a file that anyone can buy in Home Depot.

What about a revolver? Semiautomatic firearms eject the brass after the cartridge is fired, but revolvers do not. These types of firearms are generally inexpensive and easy to conceal. What would this bill do for crimes committed with revolvers?

And finally, this is reactionary politics if I ever heard it. What relevance does this have to public safety and homeland security? Surely a person is not safe if the only thing this bill would do is identify the gun used to kill them. They are already dead.

Use your head on this one, and don't vote for this waste of time.

-A fellow ***** kid (this was one of his campaign slogans)

The bill in question. I'm sick of not only the restrictions to my rights, but our political system in general. I'm going to start by writing more letters like this about issues I complain about here on Reddit. If this doesn't work and enough people are angry at the same thing, I'm going to peacefully assemble. If that doesn't work

Posted Feb 27, 2011, 2:43 AM UTC · edited

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clarke187DIDN'T LIKE HIS PREVIOUS FLAIR, SO NOW HE GETS THIS•

firing pins are like four bucks....

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And anybody can buy them, in any state, regardless of residence.

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xampl9•

Look for forthcoming bill H01562 which would make importation and possession of a non-microstamped firing pin a felony.

Laws tend to travel in packs, which is why they're so dangerous.

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[deleted]•

these laws put new completely useless requirements on manufacturers...

if you follow the money on these bills, you will always find a lobbyist for a private company that will become extremely prosperous the moment any state makes microstamping law...

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moxwind•

It's about money and someone wanting to support his buddies microstamping business.

You really don't lose much freedom when someone puts an unenforceable law on the books. Who is to say when a firing pin has entered the state unless it already had identifying marks (microstamp?lol) so unless they are inspected during shipping, there is no way to enforce this.

Do you sell firing pins from out of state in to MA? If not your making a big deal out of what is essentially a state tax on importing firing pins.

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pepperpicker•

Good job! I've been doing this for years now, let me suggest that you email, snail-mail, call, and show up (town hall meetings) to ask the same question for maximum effect. Different politicians weigh some forms of communications heavier than others and if you have taken the time to write out a well thought statement/argument it doesn't take much more effort to make sure they read/hear it!

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sometimesitripOP•

I'm pledging to myself to become more politically active. I honestly view the second amendment as the last resort of political action. I've been smelling something brewing for a few years and the spark that was ignited by an unemployed student in Tunis, I think, is going to ignite something huge.

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digifork•

Anyone see the movie Judge Dredd? It was micro-stamping that got Judge Dredd wrongfully convicted of murder. In a world where most people let Hollywood think for them, this example may actually be useful.

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sometimesitripOP•

Anyone see the movie Judge Dredd?

You kidding? That's like asking if somebody has ever heard Beethoven's Fifth, or read 20,000 Leagues.

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myotheralt•
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[deleted]•

That is an excellent argument against this type of gun control, and I applaud you. However, I can't help but think that those in power who would be voting on this issue will be swayed only by who is padding their pockets.

It's a fucked up system. But as you pointed out in your letter, there are plenty of easy ways around this bullshit law, should it come to pass.

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sometimesitripOP•

However, I can't help but think that those in power who would be voting on this issue will be swayed only by who is padding their pockets.

I don't think this is so much true at the state and local level as it is in the federal government. The guy I wrote the letter to walked onto my property while I was sitting on my stoop smoking a cigarette to talk to me about his campaign. I actually felt a little bit swayed by this personal act and after reading through the pamphlet he gave me and comparing his beliefs to others I decided he was the closest thing to representing my ideas in our legislature.

Now, Washington is a completely different story. Everybody and their uncle has a hand in a big corporation's pocket.

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[deleted]•

I hope you're right, and I wish you all the luck in the world.

Lately we're seeing a movement toward more lax gun laws, and hopefully this bill will fail in that spirit. Kudos to you and your effort, we need more folks like you.

Again, good luck and keep fighting the good fight!

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kitfox•

The only point of this is to eliminate more firearms manufacturers that won't pander to Massachusetts already ridiculous rules.

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I think it is also there as an additional incentive to keep people from bringing their guns when they move there.

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sometimesitripOP•

Well I'm a bachelor's degree away from bringing my guns to NH anyways.

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[deleted]•

It'll still pass. People don't understand guns, or the issues associated with them. Only a handful of laws passed nowadays make any sense, and even those are loaded with pork. Sigh.

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sometimesitripOP•

If it does, we'll just have to use our first and second amendment rights, consecutively and respectively, to get things done. I'm probably going to end up in a prison camp if I keep this rhetoric up, though... Molon Labe.

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we'll plan the escape together

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sometimesitripOP•

Step One- Secure the keys!

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Step Two - Ascend from Darkness!

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TwoHands•

California already has this law on the books... it's been there for a while. Guess what... it does nothing.

It has a clause that invalidates it unless there's multiple manufacturers using it in common production.

Microstamping is a worthless technology as you covered in your letter. Fire the gun 5 times, and the stamp will look different each time, that's how fast it would wear.

You can start a campaign against it, by calling them wanna-be-californian's, and then lampooning the CA's worthless legislature. gun laws are so all over the map in CA that many sellers refuse to sell COMPLETELY UNQUESTIONABLY LEGAL firearms to CA. There's a few other things that the laws in CA have caused, but that's the most hurtful.

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[deleted]•

Does a hardened steel firing pin really wear that noticeably from striking a soft primer? Why is it that I can fire thousands of rounds with the same pin?

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TwoHands•

The pin itself will be fine, but anything used to make a microstamp that's uniquely identifiable on the pin will be of such a fine nature that it will be gone in no time. Imagine how far raised off the pin a finely crafted "stamp" would have to be in order to leave a unique imprint on the cup of the primer without peircing it and still able to strike it. Now smash that at 40,000+ psi against the cup repeatedly. It's very unlikely the microstamp will retain its shape in any reasonable way.

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Lost_Thought•

The deformation of very very fine engraving vs the deformation of a rounded lump of metal are very different animals.

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go_double•

Microstamping narrowly failed in NY.

This has little to do with solving crimes (see COBIS). The ultimate goal is to increase the price of guns, eliminate manufacturers and grow the budgets of law enforcement agencies.

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ob2•

file, anyone?

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derrick81787•

The firing pins? Are police in MA finding a pile of firing pins at the scenes of crimes or what? This seems extremely pointless.

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[deleted]•

I thought of a kink in this plan... Criminals will use revolvers if they don't just steal a microstamped semi-automatic. I mean besides the obvious plan to make gun manufactures leave the state and other states not sell to us and just take away more of our liberties. I need to move to NH ASAP.

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voidoid•

GOAL should do a pretty good job of shutting this down. It's been tried in the past and I'm not too worried about it. I'm a little more worried about H01562 (also by Linsky) that will further regulate licensing (20 hour classes!). Keep writing to your reps- on paper, not email- and become a member of GOAL if you aren't already.

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