[O] Saw these on eBay Hitachi HGST 8TB 3.5" 12Gb SAS HARD DRIVE 4KN HUH728080AL4200
I figure someone here can use these...
Posted Apr 6, 2020, 2:16 PM UTC
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Its a sad day when I see 8 TB and say "nah not big enough"
I was actively rotating out my 10 TB easystores for 12's and now I've started the painful migration to 14's.
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So... you gonna sell those 10 TBs? I'm still running a bunch of 2 TBs.
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Nah - I've got a very hungry 730xd that gets my drives once they are rotated out.
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Yeah. I'm thinking of holding out for 14's. My My Cloud died and I'm probably going to just build a NAS with a couple of 14's and call it a day.
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I feel that. I'm waiting for 16's so I can make a nice 2x size upgrade from 8's
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The drivers OP posted were SAS drives not sata like your easystores. It's not really an apples to apples comparison.
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Agreed - but doesn't change the fact they aren't big enough for me.
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Sounds too good to be true
but, the seller has really good reviews....
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I think I saw some other ones for $120 so maybe they're just motivated?
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SAS also has a much smaller market.... same reason why ECC memory is sometimes a bit cheaper.
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"ECC memory is sometimes a bit cheaper"
Unless it's Unbuffered...
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they were giving out for $89 initially for an earlier batch and got sold out in a day so they increased $10 and its still selling out fast.
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I've bought other things from these guys, and had great luck with their customer service. Made it a super easy transaction.
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4Kn means there are a lot of older controllers out there that won't be able to talk to it... on the Dell side only the Hx30 series and up speak 4K.
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So an R720XD with an H710P flashed to IT mode wouldn't be able to?
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Nope. IT mode is irrelevant... the controller itself has to speak 4Kn, which is limited to Hx30-series and above.
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Woof this saved me some heartache. Thanks man.
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You could replace the controller with something else, or make sure the drives you buy support 512e. 12th gen Dell isn't the end of the world, but it certainly isn't future-proof.
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This.
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I got six of these drives for a similar price from a Reddit user earlier this year. Maybe he's moved the rest to eBay? Anyway 4kn drives need compatible hardware. I was disappointed that I couldn't use LSI CacheCade anymore as that won't work for 4kn arrays.
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I would have bought a couple drives since my parity disks are failing but seller does not ship to Canada and the border is closed due to corona :(
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An update: Seller said the drives have about 34-35K hours and is able to ship to Canada...I think I am still going to pass due to the usage.
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That's almost 4 years of uptime. For an 8 tb SAS, it's on the edge of the value line for me.
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What are these rated for anyways? I don't know HGST drives all too well, running mostly WD/Seagate in my arrays.
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Im just here waiting for 16TB drives to fall to 200 bucks one day
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It'll happen pretty quickly.
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I'm running into heat/noise constraints, so I'm looking for 4tb SSDs for under $200. No luck yet.
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Prob a good bit. But the 5 year warranty is prob very close to being over so if it isn't yet ended and you buy them. I would do a couple days of badblocks testing
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anyone know if these drive would work for this MB?
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/motherboard/X10SL7-F
If yes, what kind of connector I need?
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You would need a SAS backplane and at the least a SAS RAID controller.
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They dont show any smart data so we have no idea of the power on hours or reallocated sectors.... gotta pass until we get info on that.
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you could always just ask the seller for SMART data, most of the time they have hundreds of these so they can't give SMART data for each drive, but they might be willing to do it if you ask
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Seller said 34 to 25K hours.... im steering clear of this.
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Eh, I've run drives that I got with over 40k POH. I'm more concerned with the start/stop count and reallocated sectors.
Of course, I also don't put anything on them that I can't afford to lose. Or I do and back up off site.
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Eh I have drives with 74K hours totally fine. I just wouldn’t want to spend a bit less than WD essentials on a drive with than many hours
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Yeah I’m just thinking about the time until I’d have to think about replacing it. I have raid 6, and offsite backup
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I asked- but hopefully for a lot of drives like this they would likely all have similar hours so they could say avg: 20,000 POH and avg 15 reallocated sectors or something like that
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SAS to SATA connectors work?
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No
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I don’t need it...but I bought one...just one...I had too
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I got me a lot of 9 600gb sas off of ebay
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Figures, just picked up three 12s at $15/TB and here comes $12.5/TB! Oh well!
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Damn. Neither of the NAS systems that I’m looking at support SAS drives...these would’ve saved me $50 per drive :(
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If it was more than 12 available (need about 30) then I'd be all over this.
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It still shows 12+ available on mine.
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Interesting, it only allowed the drop down qty selector to go to 12.
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But if you 'add to cart' you can enter a quantity of 20.
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Strange. Mine shows 20
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FACK it doesnt ship to Canada. So tarded it hurts!
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I contacted the seller and they said they are willing to ship to Canada, I would suggest contacting them.
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Ooo good news everyone!
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Wish these were SATA, not SAS.
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=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Health Status: OK
Current Drive Temperature: 33 C
Drive Trip Temperature: 85 C
Manufactured in week 33 of year 2015
Specified cycle count over device lifetime: 50000
Accumulated start-stop cycles: 405
Specified load-unload count over device lifetime: 600000
Accumulated load-unload cycles: 1388
Elements in grown defect list: 0
Vendor (Seagate Cache) information
Blocks sent to initiator = 649845966635008
Error counter log:
Errors Corrected by Total Correction Gigabytes Total
ECC rereads/ errors algorithm processed uncorrected
fast | delayed rewrites corrected invocations [10^9 bytes] errors
read: 0 0 0 0 1028 1699.097 0
write: 0 16 0 16 499560 10841.974 0
verify: 0 0 0 0 40248 0.000 0
Non-medium error count: 0
SMART Self-test log
Num Test Status segment LifeTime LBA_first_err [SK ASC ASQ]
Description number (hours)
# 1 Background short Completed - 24999 - [- - -]
Long (extended) Self-test duration: 65535 seconds [1092.2 minutes]
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My heart says yes, my wallet says no.
Same boat here.
No, same ocean, all of us.
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