How Thousands in China Gently Mourn a Coronavirus Whistle-Blower
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nytimes.comPosted Apr 16, 2020, 11:38 AM UTC
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nytimes.comDr. Li is mourned in China because he was a wonderful person, a committed young doctor who died in line of duty, not because he was whistle blower.
It is a great and touching story. I shedded tears when I went through what people said to him on his Weibo account. Fucking NYT ruined it by politicizing it and everything from China according to ideology. He was a CCP member, which was ignored.
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Whatever you say there narrative-explaining person.
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They have to mourn gently or get run over by tanks
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What was stolen away from the Chinese people in 1989 must be returned. Putin should reconsider his relationship with the west, he has much to gain from China.
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- Her own words was that she handed him the whistle.
Go earn your social points somewhere else.
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Correction: you meant to say the citizens of the USA, the Americans are the indigenous people and it is spelled honour.
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People like yourself do not get it. It would be unheard of for anyone in the west looking to warn others about an outbreak of a contagious disease to be baselessly interrogated by the police and made to sign a document to not continue to do so.
Though his warning to his contacts ultimately got shared more widely it was not his direct intention to do so and it is unconscionable that he was punished for such an act.
Even the governance of China had to face actual reality and recognize that he was wronged by them.
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This response shows that your redditor username is quite appropriate.
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All CCP talking points that do nothing but try to muddy the waters.
You post in r/stlouis and [r]sino and say “Americans have no honor” (which is pretty rich coming from a Sino-sucker, btw). Do you live in the US? If so, how do you reconcile that with your glorification of authoritarianism?
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Your version of the official timeline reinforces the corrupt nature of it.
a group chat between the deceased Chinese whistleblower doctor Li Wenliang and other medics about some patients exhibiting signs of a new SARS-like illness in early December
Bottom line: You blew a whole month. You fucked up, period.
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Repeating the same old lies won't cut it chief.
The truth is this was circulating in early December and you're just sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting LA LA LA while ignoring the truth.
##YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH.
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Why is western media keep talking about Dr Li Wenliang and not Dr Zhang Jixian? Well, because that doesn't fit their China narrative.
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Dr Li Wenliang, an optometrist, only told his small group of friends on WeChat that he think there are cases of SARS virus going around and told them to be careful, keep it quiet and not tell anyone.
However, another doctor you haven't heard about from western media is Dr Zhang Jixian. Dr Zhang was the one who actually first spotted and diagnosed COVID19 and immediately raised the alarm through proper channels (before Dr Li sent his private messages to his buddies) which resulted in China's CDC started its investigation. Dr Zhang awarded in China for doing her job and doing it well. Dr Zhang Jixian is heroine in this virus war.
Also, Dr Li wasn't arrested or disappeared, as said by some western media earlier. He was detained, questioned and released in January 3rd, 2020 which is days after China informed WHO of the virus on December 31, 2019. Afterward, the Supreme Court of China exonerated him. But Dr Li didn't whistle-blow anything.
Remember 60 Minutes Australia, NYtimes and other media accused of China disappeared another coronavirus whistle blower, Dr Ai Fen? Well, she have been constantly working at the front line in Wuhan combating the virus since the outbreak there. And she also have been updating her Weibo whenever she had time.
Her weibo: https://www.weibo.com/u/2662574464?refer_flag=1005055014_&is_hot=1
Guess who didn't get mentioned in this post's article? Yupe, Dr Ai Fen. It is because her story doesn't support NYtimes' desired China narrative anymore.
I imagine "western media" isn't very interested in Zhang Jixian because the overall perception of the original Chinese response has been widely panned throughout the world, along with the response of the WHO with feedback from the CCP.
Also, people in "the west" are very sensitive when whistleblowers and journalists mysteriously disappear after criticizing governments because that's not something that happens very often there without everyone making an uproar.
I understand you are touchy and understandably so, there is a lot of misinformation going around pretty much everywhere (And especially on this subreddit), but surely you can understand why people aren't hailing Zhang Jixian as a hero for finding something that is burning through the world like wildfire and killing hundreds of thousands of human beings right now.
Pandemics are going to be a touchy subject, especially from the country of their origin. A lot of people did a lot of things wrong in regards to this. Maybe history in years will look back at Zhang as the person who originally sounded the alarm, but right now tensions are extremely high and while people die, narratives will be pushed on all sides.
Also, Dr Li wasn't arrested or disappeared, as said by some western media earlier. He was detained, questioned and released in January 3rd, 2020.
How sensitive though? In USA, doctors and nurses got reprimanded or fired for speakout/leakout about lack of PPE. Captain of a carrier got fired for speakout/leadout about coronavirus on his ship.
Dr Zhang is NOT in any way personally responsible for the outbreak of virus and deaths resulted. A lot of countries heeded WHO's warnings and took proactive measures and they did very well fighting off the virus; very few deaths.
It is very unusual for doctors to be detained and questioned in North America, especially by party police. To do so, especially in America, would spark protests. It may be normal in China but it certainly is not there.
The Naval captain was fired not because of Coronavirus, but because he endangered the US Navy by announcing a weakness on ships. You can think of it something like criticizing Chinese government except in USA - As China is touchy about Leadership, USA is touchy about "freedom" and their military strength.
As for the nurses/doctors, I think the US healthcare system is widely viewed as a disgrace worldwide, so that's not too surprising.
I did not say Zhang was. However, I did mention that people are not going to celebrate Zhang's discovery in a time where the pandemic is ravaging the world.
The media is talking about Wenliang because he is shining symbol for the failings of a policy of government censorship and punishment received by him as well as the other doctors warning of the then epidemic.
WTF happened to Ai Fen head of the emergency department of Wuhan Central Hospital in China?
Fuck censorship and fuck the hiding of this epidemic which prevented the world from being better prepared to block its spread into a pandemic.
Posts like yours are full of shit as straw man arguments.
From your article:
Imagine a doctor in the USA did that without permission from hospital and patient. Privacy, personal medical information et al.
Dr Ai Fen should have submit and reported her finding to China's CDC as Dr Zhang Jixian did earlier.
Whatever the case, Dr Ai Fen didn't get arrested or disappeared as some media insinuated. She continued to do her work to heal/help virus patients.
You realize you are talking about "发哨子的人" correct?
STFU with nonsense.