Posted Jul 7, 2020, 1:53 PM UTC
Ooooh it's started...here comes OBJ!!!! 😂
I was assuming maybe it’s a step toward Njoku, but I’ll admit I don’t have an in-depth understanding of the cap like others do.
I think its just to give us some breathing room, we had legitimately like $0 cap space
Yeah its quite likely we are just tryin to make moves to open up cap so we can make a trade or two or sign a guy off the street mid season if we need to
On the other hand, this could be a year where we go hard and fill the cap yo the brim since next year we are supposed to have lots of cap
Unfortunately, Covid might affect next years cap.
After this move we have somewhere around $1.2mm in cap space I believe
But.....But Olivier Vernon restructured.
Youre right it would be Njoku is anything. We would have to trade Thuney for Odell, we would just have to, unless we cut Hightower or Trade another big name. But we would have to trade a player for Odell, IMO not worth it, rather would see what our 1st and 2nd can get us with Sanu and Harry.
We won't sign Njoku, dude cannot block and occasionally has hands of stone.
Please no Njoku
WRONG. This is clearly the first step in our 80 part plan to trade for post-contract Mahomes.
Nah, we'll just pick up Mahomes in 10 years when Can retires and we'll use Mahomes until he hits 45. By they time we can probably sign Brady back to win a few more championships.
NGL it'd be a major fuck-you if we finally got OBJ after Brady left.
why? wE gave him MR bigchest, not bills fault that he blew up
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I appreciate that. He didn't have to do it.
The alternative was probably getting cut
Yep, this pretty much guarantees he makes the roster
It still wouldn’t shock me if they cut him for the roster space. Probably not, because of his ST contributions and BB’s love of ST, but not because of his price tag.
I never really thought about it this way, but I feel like Bill probably thinks about it like evaluations for a startup company.
You can have a high contract/evaluation but it’s harder to live up to that, increasing risk that you get cut/go under.
In this sense, he can still get cut in training camp, but harder to get cut when his contract and expected value is lower
Oh definitely. 100%.
He absolutely did have to do it if he wanted to stay on the team.
If he wanted to stay on the team this was probably the one way he had. But I guess he could have just said 'cut me'.
Cut me mick
Good, this needed to happen. Now Sanu needs to do the same thing.
He won’t.
And people were confident he’d be an automatic cut. Our best all around RB
If he didn't sign this new deal he definitely would have been
You’re joking right?
"and people were confident the guy who took this pay cut would be cut!"
Let’s not get carried away. No one is taking Rex above white or sony.
Let's stick to the easy arguments and say White.
Sony.... meh..
Agreed. I think he’s the best runner and a close second best receiver behind white
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Whites biggest running asset is his great receiving ability. When he runs teams are shocked and it works well when needed
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He's a pretty physical runner when healthy as well.
Definitely. He had more yards after contact per attempt and more broken tackles per attempt than Sony
close second best receiver behind white
Shots fired!
He’s better all around than Sony, but don’t sleight white like that
Seems like a good move, Pats definitely need the space. I would imagine this means he doesn't get cut.
So Rex just paid Cam....
Njoku Confirmed
Cleveland just restructured Olivier Vernon like 15 min before the Rex post... If Njoku is true that likely means a NE player is involved too... Please not Thuney ugh
If Thuney is involved it's likely OBJ. Which is very unlikely and I like to see what we have in Sanu and Harry.
But if we Traded a 1st and Thuney for OBJ and Njoku I would legit cry of happiness. Like I did for AB.... Or a 2nd, Thuney, Sanu for OBJ and NJoku. If we got OBJ that means we get rid of Sanu prolly.
Thuney is a significantly more impactful player than OBJ. You would not need a first or 2nd to make that deal work.
But if we Traded a 1st and Thuney for OBJ and Njoku I would legit cry of happiness. Like I did for AB.... Or a 2nd, Thuney, Sanu for OBJ and NJoku. If we got OBJ that means we get rid of Sanu prolly.
No team would accept a G for a WR. We would need to attach a 1st to even get interest. Maybe a 2nd only if it's an absolute shit show behind the scenes and OBJ is on his way out.
A very good WR is worth way more than a very good G.
Edit: If you flip the teams you know you would be saying how stupid that trade was and how they would have to give us a pick as well.
I'm sure the restructures are just coincidence but it did pop in my head
OR is it.
haha can you imagine the fucking shit storm on the NFL sub if Cam and Odell are on the pats haha
Not that I really think the season is even happening this year unfortunately..
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LOL a Top-10 WR and Top-10 TE in Receiving Yards is 2018.....
I would also cry if we traded a first and thuney for njoku and obj ...... it wouldn’t be the same way you were thinking
My first thought as well, but is it really a possibility?
Of Course now. 1.2M is our Cap, and Njoku would bring somebody out of the Top 51, so I believe we could fit him under the cap.
Njoku's cap hit seems higher than what the Pats have available. But I am not an expert on cap intricacies https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/david-njoku-21770/
Njoku would take somebody out of the Top-51 ($700-$800k). So yes, we have the Cap.
And Cleveland takes about half that Cap Hit.
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Njoku is trash. Can't/won't block and hands are average.
Lol Top 10 in TE REC Yards in 2018.
Also, we drafted two TEs. We're not taking Njoku.
TEs take a year or 2 to develop.
Oh lord please no
Like he wouldnt be the starter here.
He is a TE who cant really block. BB uses his TEs to block. A TE who can't block is just a slow receiver.
Still would be our starter.
Lmao at the clowns who wanted Burkhead to be cut.
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If he didn't restructure he was almost certainly getting cut.
Team before self. I love these types of players. Always hated to see the burkhead haters on this sub.
why are they clowns?
we have Michel, Harris and white
with bolden and Fbs to help out
and a damn promising rookie
It was definitely close decision for bill
I love Rex and his contribution to our sb but he was definitely a possibility of going with the cap needs
Burkhead rocks! Dude is fired out of a cannon every snap!
YES! Another year of Burkhead is locked!
So, we basically paid our 3rd rb quarterback money
Holy fuck the generosity on this dude is showing
When healthy Burkhead is the back that gets put in the game when it matters. I would argue that he is better than White because he is a better runner, and a good enough pass catcher. He keeps the defence honest. Great signing.
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Fair argument when everything, including health, is considered. I wonder how number of snaps compares for them? I do think White has better hands, but he does not look as fast for being able to move a secondary defender to create space.
I do not know what games you watch, White is MUCH faster than Burkehead. Also Brady always said White needed more snaps and was always Brady's go to guy when the game mattered.
I think white is very quick in his first two steps but his speed levels out. Burkhead is in the games at the end when it matters. He was in for the end of the game agains KC in the playoffs and same thing in the super bowl against the Rams. Absolutely not knocking how valuable white is. He is the best pass catcher of the bunch and a great blocker.
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Absolutely. When Sony or White are in the game it becomes more apparent what kinds of plays will be run. Rex does what both of them can do pretty well and definitely keeps the defense honest like you said.
Cap space party!!!
I love danny woodhead part 2. This guy is tough as balls
I love this fucking team
I like the depth at RB with Covid
Hope he stays
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For the dude who spams Burkhead hate in nearly every post, you can kindly shut tf up now.
Yeah lol there are at least a few people who cannot stand having Burkhead on the team. The coaching staff obviously loves him on offense and he plays on at least 3 special teams units.
I don't get it when he has been healthy he seems to always make winning plays for us.
my only gripe with burkhead has been that its inevitable he gets hurt every year and at times I wonder if we should carry another running back with value.
My guess is the level of play you get out of him at that price is worth it. If he constantly was healthy and made some of the plays he does he'd be one of the best running backs in the league
i think part of the reason he gets beat up is that, though he is listed as a RB, his true role on the team is much larger. His participation on ST adds a lot of beatings to him week by week. His versatility as a ST guy as well as a serviceable RB make him a great depth guy. He gets injured because he plays outside of the duties of a traditional back up back.
One of the best RBs in the league might be an exaggeration
He had somewhat limited touches, some which were not to productive and I think he is a little undersized. He is definitely a good football player though and gives 100%. Been more productive recently.
I think it’s cause he’s always been our number 3 RB. There have always been people in front of him like White, Michel, Lewis, Blount, etc.
But he’s always made amazing plays, I definitely think it’s always been worthwhile to keep him on the team.
He's not the best runner or pass catcher in the RB room, but he is probably the most 'balanced' RB in that regard. A good RB3, for sure.
The injuries do suck though.
I think it's probably because his history forces you to add the qualifier "when he has been healthy" to your comment. But I like Burkhead, and I'm happy about this renegotiation.
great plays that were crucial in our last sb win
im guessing michel injury is carrying a lot of concern
I keep saying, watch for the surprise sony cut.
The key phrase is "when he has been healthy". When he's healthy, he's our best RB. When he was with Cincy, same story. But the dude just cannot stay on the field. I really believe if he was more durable he'd be a top 5 RB in the league. But his health means you can't always count on him. I get excited when I see him line up anywhere because he just makes plays. If you stick him, White and Newton in a backfield, watch the D squirm. Is it a run? Who's running? Is it a pass? Where will they pass to? RPO? Naked boot leg? Jet sweep? Absolutely unpredictable. Then surprise, here's NKeal or Asiasi on some newfangled play that gets them 1v1 on a LB who can't catch them or bring them down.
I couldn't agree more. Burkhead in my opinion is the most explosive RB we have. He catches, he runs with authority, he makes guys miss, etc. Burkhead is a fantastic RB, the only knock on him is his health. Which I admit is a concern, but god damn is he talented and super underrated. If health were not a concern he would be our lead back imo.
But because he's seemingly made of glass we save him for moments instead of straight up workload like Michel.
New here I didn’t know people hated him that’s nuts. He’s like a power back wood head
Much rather have Burkhead than Bolden
Bolden does winning stuff away from the ball all the time. "Doesn't show up in the box score" shit.
I love having Brandon Bolden on the team. If that's our HB5 then i think we're good lol
Don’t you dare talk about Bolden like that
I would seriously rather have burkhead than michel tho.. sony has shown no ability to churn out 2 yards on 3rd and 2. I hope he fixes that this season
Probably a do or die year for Sony with Damien Harris redshirting last year
Rex's tackle breaking ability is what people think Sony Michel's is
What's your problem with Brandon Bolden?
I personally have no problem with the dude so I can’t speak for OP but ive had him on my fantasy team before and that dude does not produce any flashy stats so I could see how an inattentive fan might think he sucks
Why would you have a fourth string RB, special teams specialist on a fantasy team?
I used to be a Bolden hater. But if he was 0.5” taller, he would have recovered that onside kick against the Texans last year and the Pats might have been the two seed. Put it all on the line there.
I don’t hate Burkhead he is good when healthy but him willing to take a pay cut let’s me know he would of been the first RB cut off the roster.
Not necessarily. If anything this increases Boldens chances of being cut in my opinion.
Your statement isn't really disagreeing with his though. You're saying Bolden seems more likely to be cut now that Burkhead redid his deal whereas they are saying if burkhead didn't redo his deal he would likely have been the first RB out.
Both things can be true (and likely are)
Wow, the guy with one year left on his deal who was also the priciest RB was the most likely to be approached about a restructure? Who needs Benzan and Patscap when we have this guy? Do you write for sports?
AKA the Burkhater
Burkhead is a beast for us, Bill and Josh really get the best out of him!
Not with that one game that they kept on running Burkhead down the middle every other play
The only criticism is injury prone but when he actually plays he’s pretty damn good. And was a key X factor in SB53
I mean, for me, I think he still could get cut. Sony, Harris, Bolden and White are better for the team. The former two are young, and white, well that's a no brainer and Bolden is good at special teams, and a big bruising back. I think with Cam as the QB, Sony is gonna see a lot more holes, and Harris could break out if given the chance. Sony last year was part of a stagnant offense, and if he was in it was a run. Its not like he's AP, if 9 guys are in the box, he's gonna have a bad time. I just dunno with all the TE's WR's how they can possibly carry 4 RB's and a FB.
Just my two cents.
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