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arkanus

Questions about what price range to purchase.

I am currently in the process of deciding whether to purchase a desktop computer. I game on my laptop which is a Turion x64 with an integrated hd 3200. I am looking for a system that will be a noticeable improvement from what I am currently using and I want to be able to play games like Starcraft 2 without stuttering. I don't really care about all of the graphical settings being set to "extremely high", but I don't want to run games at 1024 x 768 either.

I am not trying to future proof with this purchase. If I can get 2-3 years out of this computer until it becomes about as dated for gaming as my laptop is now, then I will be very happy. Also, I may be interested in adding a second monitor down the road. This would be primarily for productivity purposes, not gaming.

My questions are as follows:

  1. Should I wait until after Bulldozer is released to purchase a new desktop?

  2. Where is a decent sweet spot on the price/performance curve? I will probably take the lazy man's approach and just get a computer from the Logical Increment list. I am thinking about something in the Good - Great spectrum, but I can certainly pay more if there is a compelling reason to.

  3. Should I be looking at builds other than Logical's?

I respect this community's knowledge about computers and would love to hear your input on this. Both the timeline of the purchase and the money allocated to this purchase are flexible, so please feel free to comment on any adjustments that I should make to those guidelines as well.

Posted Jun 18, 2011, 10:57 PM UTC

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healthybigmac•
  1. No need for that. Like sevaroth said, for pure gaming you can't do much better than a 2500k for the price, however, I think it's a bit out of your budget range. My recommendation would be to buy an x4 955 with an AM3+ motherboard so, in the future, you can drop in a Bulldozer CPU. The x4's right now will only set you back a little over $100, and, even still, it is a perfectly acceptable CPU for the foreseeable future.

  2. You can build a pretty killer machine right now in the $600-$700 range, anything more than a couple hundred above that usually just includes luxuries like an SSD or aftermarket cooling, among other things. The logical build is actually pretty damn good on its own, but you can find better deals if you look closely. Here's something I threw together that I think is pretty damn good for the price. Mind you the OS will set you back another $30/$100 depending on whether you're in school and can get a discount.

Part list permalink / Part price breakdown by merchant

TypeItemPrice
CPUAMD Phenom II X4 955 Black 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor$113.99 @ Newegg
MotherboardAsus M5A87 ATX AM3+ Motherboard$107.55 @ Newegg
MemoryMushkin Silverline 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory$30.99 @ Newegg
Hard DriveSamsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive$49.99 @ Newegg
Video CardHIS Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card$164.98 @ Newegg
CaseAntec Three Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case$59.45 @ Newegg
Power SupplyAntec 550W ATX12V Power Supply$64.99 @ Amazon
Total
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)$591.94
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arkanusOP•

Thank you for the build recommendations. Just to clarify, I am not really interested in buying Bulldozer. I just thought that prices on existing architectures took a dive when a new one came out. I would only use that as a target date if it meant that I could save a lot of the Phenom chip. My underlying assumption about price drops from an event like this could also be false too, it was based on research when I built my last computer which was an AMD Barton 2500 (O/C to 3200 by increasing the FSB) with a Radeon 9800 pro. That was a sweet computer for its time.

Also, I am a student so I will be able to get the OS for $30. I will probably dual boot into Linux as well, though I may just run it in a virtual machine instead.

anything more than a couple hundred above that usually just includes luxuries like an SSD or aftermarket cooling, among other things.

Thank you for letting me know. Those types of luxuries are the exact things that I want to avoid.

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Sevaroth•

His recommendations look pretty good. One consideration that would still likely be on budget is an upgraded mobo and PSU for CF support in a year or so. It will allow you to upgrade when a game comes along or you start to see a drop in performance.

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Sevaroth•
  1. Not unless you want to wait a long time for it to be a reasonable price.

  2. For what you've mentioned the $600-800 range should more than fit the bill.

  3. Logical is just a starting point. Set up newegg wishlist for feedback on specific items and update this post for more info.

Most common parts to include are Samsung Spinpoint F3 HDD, Corsair/G.skill/low priced RAM. The intel i5-2500K and its compatriots are excellent value right now, intel socket 1155 when you start mobo hunting. Look at tom's hardware, Anandtech, overclockers.net, there are a boatload of product reviews on recent / relevant items.

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arkanusOP•

Thank you for your response. I have been reading some sources on building, including lurking on this subreddit. It sounds like the i5-2500k is God's gift to gamers right now. I will definitely look into builds that include it.

Set up newegg wishlist for feedback on specific items and update this post for more info.

How long would you continue this process? For example, assume that I made the decision to go forward today. How long would you recommend that I monitor the prices on various components before saying "close enough" and pulling the trigger on the final pieces?

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clupean•

Starcraft II uses up to 3 cores and the current i5-2xxx Intel architecture is ~50% better than AMD's Phenom II for this game.
If the cpu isn't good enough, it'll prevent the gpu from providing a higher number of fps.

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arkanusOP•

Between your post and Sevaroth, I am starting to think I might have to pony up for an i5. I guess the question is whether I just get a system along the lines of the one in bigmac's post, or if I want to spend the extra $150 and have a system that is about 50% more powerful.

A 25% increase in price for a 50% increase in power is a pretty compelling proposition.

Thank you for sharing that data.

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clupean•

The mobo and cpu will cost you an extra $86 compared to bigmac's post, not $150. And with a cheaper mobo, if you don't need usb3 or the extra expansion slots, it's only $36.

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