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BPenko

Warhammer Animations Showreel

A quick teaser for what will come. interestingly enough it seems theyre making the Imperials at least somewhat bad guys in the anime-like one, which I can only applaud; I would have thought in their premiere animation they would feel the need to white wash the posterboys and do some generic battle vs orkz. Instead they seem to be invading an exodite world and the eldar are defending it. From the SoB part of seemingly the same animation I think that there will still be a good deal of Imperium apologism but then again the setting itself seems already full of it. Finally, the striking scorpion with a beard surprised me because 1) eldar usually dont have facial hair and 2) though the war mask is LARGELY proverbial, I was under the impression it was at least partially physical.

Posted Oct 17, 2020, 3:11 PM UTC · edited

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AngronTheRedAngelKhorne•

An Avatar of Khaine actually managed to gut a Redemptor Dreadnought without slipping on a banana peel and impaling itself.

What a time to be alive.

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BPenkoOPBlack Templars•

Well to be fair if dawn of war animations are anything to go by it often happens an avatar looks like it is about to win or already has until its opponent pulls an el reverso

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[deleted]•

Plot Twist - El Reverso is a Veteran Marine with a knife wedged in-between a deep gouge in his helmet. He only carries a bolter with two rounds, a spool of cooper wire, a glue stick, and a jar of JIF peanut butter.

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Ryans4427•

Surprise twist: the glue stick is the key to victory.

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mementoEstis•

That’s because he’s getting rerolls huffing on that bad boy.

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sikyon•

I would have expected the Daemon to have a peanut allergy.

Now that I think about it, there's probably a daemon of peanut allergies too.

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ProbablyNotZorroNecrons•

actually it's pronounced JIF

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Zeribos•

How could you forget the duck tape?

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[deleted]•

El Reverso prefers glitter glue sticks. Easier to digest.

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Bylak•

Ooooooooomg

I literally lol'd at this comment and my four year old asked me why I laughed. I told him I read something funny someone said on my phone. He asked me to read it. So I did and I capped it off with "and yeah, I thought it was funny!"

Completely, 100% deadpan he replies "but it wasn't."

I fucking died 🤣

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DorksoulsfanAlpha Legion•

Wait I thought you wanted death?

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AngronTheRedAngelKhorne•

Seeing Khaine stomp loyalists helps to ease the pain.

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DorksoulsfanAlpha Legion•

Brings in Calgar.

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lv_Mortarion_vlDeath Guard•

Hey, I remember your comment on my post about the Avatar/ Swarm Lord getting killed by SM all the time... What a coincidence haha

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Belckan•

Elf Khorne not weak in surprising turn of events

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ElvastanSautekh•

and it was an ultramarine, so you know they mean business.

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[deleted]•

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ResolverOshawottAsuryani•

Man, I'm.jusr so fucking happy to see eldar in an official GW thing. I am just praying they don't turn out to be just canon fodder and are actually interesting and compelling characters.

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squabzilla•

That fucking Warlock makes me SO HYPED like Warlocks as basically mage-knights is everything I want from 40k.

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PricelessEldritch•

In Dawn of War 2, they were one of my favorite leaders. Really dig their design.

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alexkon3•

"I walk the witch path, and it leads to war!"

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ProbablyNotZorroNecrons•

Wait, are you implying that Xenos & Friends™ don't just exist for named Space Marines to kill single handedly? Cause about 16 years of lore and GW releases indicates otherwise

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falsealzheimersBad Moons•

16? More like 30..

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A_Hideous_BeastImperial Fists•

For those comparing Astartes to the 2D animated stuff we are seeing:

Astartes is full CGI. While animation is VERY difficult, no matter what medium, animating 3D models IS easier, because you aren't drawing anything, you can make everything move smoothly with less difficulty.

Astartes has very few human faces, and when they did, they used tricks of the camera to show faces as little as possible. Human emotions are so damn difficult to animate, talking is also hard as Hell.

Astartes in general has a very minimilistic sttle to it, which means they have more time to work on the actual animating without worrying about all the little trinkets and details Warhammer loves.

Astartes was a fan project without deadlines and paid employees (as far as we know).

When animating professionally, there are extremely strict deadlines. Animators aren't so much hired for their talent, but for their talent AND speed of which they can work. I bet you these guys are underdeadline, and they are getting paid, more frames = more drawings, which means a higher cost and more time spent working.

2D animation is much more difficult, and a much slower process, it is why most animated films and shows are 3D CGI.

Do I like the weird stutter we see seeing? Nope, I especially dislike it in anime and anime-esque stuff, I think it looks ugly and distracting, but I'm not gonna moan about it because holy crap, they are actually making animated stuff!

Sadly, too many non-animators and non-artists equate animation with Art direction, and they'll probably shout AnMAtIon BaD when really they mean they don't enjoy the art direction. Good animation =/= more frames. Good animation comes down to many things.

Edit: for example of bad CG fan animation: Death of Hope. Too much focus on the details. Yes, the models are beautifully intrecate...but that makes animating a fucking nightmare. If you ever work in animation professionally, you NEVER over do details, even in CG, unless it's super important to a character or object. Do not over detail every thing on screen, because it'll take a year and a day to get any actual work done, and your animation will suffer for it.

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seldkam•

I think the issue is where you see people saying that more frames =/= good animation.

Which I have seen in a discord recently. There are certain contexts and styles where a very low frame rate may work. But in an action IP? Maybe not the best idea, money / budget notwithstanding.

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MRaholan•

Yeah, the entire reasoning behind the lower fps in animation is to get higher degree of detail in the artwork. It's not for everyone, sure.

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seldkam•

To me the detail already looks more than enough. Like the camo patterns on the Scorpion's and marines-- probably not necessary?

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col-fancypantsImperial Fists•

https://memestatic.fjcdn.com/pictures/Vintage+artwork_b377bc_7572759.jpg

This Executioner disagrees haha.

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tyrghast•

Both Amazon and Netflix have published some incredible animated anthologies in recent years.

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seldkam•

For example? I'm mostly an anime guy (and Warhammer of course) so I may not have watched them

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tyrghast•

Love Sex and Robots on Netflix and the on Amazon there's Tales from the Loop.

There are high and low points but the push to innovate is there. This is the talent that will help bring 40k to the screen.

The Zima Blue episode is a whole vibe and the existentialism works well in a product like 40k.

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Ryuk74Adeptus Astartes•

On Netflix: Castlevania

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RamTank•

There are certain contexts and styles where a very low frame rate may work. But in an action IP?

Isn't that Samurai Jack? Honestly I'm inclined to believe that for 2D action, low framerates might be better.

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seldkam•

Samurai Jack had very low fps? Really? What are you defining as every low, because if the standard is around 24, very low would be 10 ish maybe?

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[deleted]•

It’s like when non programmers complain about programming and writing code, especially about bugs

There is an old saying that exists for a reason “99 little bugs in the code, 99 little bugs, take one down, patch it around, 142 little bugs in the code”

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sk_2013•

Seriously.

What's worse is the things you don't think about. Archaic system formats. Systems built around specific errors happening.

In the case of animation, I often find camerawork ends up being the biggest factor.

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ian0delond•

When animating professionally, there are extremely strict deadlines. Animators aren't so much hired for their talent, but for their talent AND speed of which they can work. I bet you these guys are underdeadline, and they are getting paid, more frames = more drawings, which means a higher cost and more time spent working.

That's how the Helsreach guy (Richard Boylan) got the job for Angels of Death. HR was turned in a portfolio he could produce so much, in so much time and money and he knew the IP very well. And in an other the fan who made The Lord Inquisitor animation never went beyond the Prologue because he burnt himself with the first 8 minutes of his project produced with a year of work.

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WhalenOnF00lsBlood Angels•

Which sucks because I followed TLI for years. It was so fucking cool.

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88Question88•

Finally somebody that gets it.

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catgirl_apocalypseEmperor's Children•

Respect to the Death of Hope author for effort and creativity, but I can’t tell what’s going in because every character looks like they painted themselves in glue and rolled around in a bitz box.

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Carcosian_SymposiumThe Bleeding Eye•

Sadly, too many non-animators and non-artists equate animation with Art direction, and they'll probably shout AnMAtIon BaD when really they mean they don't enjoy the art direction. Good animation =/= more frames. Good animation comes down to many things.

The last thing I want in an action show is it looking like a powerpoint presentation. Saying you want smoother movement in the image isn't invalidating the art style, it's just criticizing a specific aspect.

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Qualiafreak•

I just don't understand why people defend 3D CG animation. I can count the good CG I've seen on one hand. On 2 fingers. There is an enormous amount of absolute shit CG that I could list for days. Series after series after series has been ruined by choosing to make it CG to save money. Congratulations, it gets the greenlight, and gets a season. Then it gets canceled because nobody can stand to even look at the thing. Was it worth it?

Do it the right way or don't bother. It is so bad that I honestly would rather have nothing than have something in bad CG.

The Eldar at 00:11 seconds are absolutely atrocious. Its times like these that I just stop and look at it and think "Who would say 'Yeah, we got it, this looks good' when they see this?".

The good thing about voting with your wallet and complaining is that it affects change. I won't watch that garbage. I will actively tell people not to watch it. And hopefully they will say "Wow, we really need to increase the quality of this, nobody wants to watch it" and they will make it better or cancel it and make something else.

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Ravendead•

The Sisters of Battel one seem very cool, and I really want to see what they do with the noir one.

But as a collector of Eldar, I really like what they showed of the Eldar focussed anime like one.

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Wouju•

I really liked how in the noir one there even was a vent/fan in the ceiling

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squabzilla•

That Warlock makes so SO HYPED IT REPRESENTS EVERYTHING I WANT FROM ELDAR and those Striking Scorpions are pretty cool too.

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Dreamcatcher_FTW•

++Dear Warhammer,

​

Yes please!

​

​

END++

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Tylendal•

Inquisitors in film noir style.

Sisters of Battle in modern western animation.

Anime Eldar.

High contrast, gritty, cell-shaded Space Marines.

I'm in love with the variety of style on display here.

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[deleted]•

I just want a WW2 style film about the Guard...

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A_Hideous_BeastImperial Fists•

Don't forget to buy warbonds for your corpse starch!

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Steampunk_flyboyAstra Militarum•

That would make it more awesomer. Gritty, dark and hopeless animation style, loads of people getting killed and the only reason they win is because of tactics, nasty tricks and throwing bodies at the enemy.

Glorious.

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Uneducatedculture•

And the "win" is very debateable, guardsmen find out, execution. Sad ending.

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[deleted]•

And tanks

Lots and lots of big fucking tanks

A huge combined arms assault breaking the enemy lines, orbital bombardment hitting their back lines, gunships dropped off veterans and Scions in key positions as Baneblades, Russ and Chimera rush to support them

All under a thunderous artillery barrage

Hell, most of it could be the Guard (and protagonist squad) trying to hold a beachhead until the rest of the army are deployed

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SagrandaOrks•

A "Band of Brothers" style could imho really work with the Guard.

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shekelest•

Can’t wait for the Night Lords one

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Jmmz6•

Ave dominus nox

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BalinKingOfMoriaAdeptus Custodes•

something something in midnight clad something something

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Wouju•

ear splitting screams broadcasted through the vox

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BalinKingOfMoriaAdeptus Custodes•

Shut up already, Uzas! - Talos, probably

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Talos-ValcoranNight Lords•

Aye

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warderbob•

I am positively floored that they previewed competent Eldar. Surely at the end of the episode a death watch company shows up and ruins the day.

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ResolverOshawottAsuryani•

Which part didn't show a Striking Scorpion with a beard? From my rewatches it was just part of his headgear rather than facial hair.

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NeedsEvenMoreDakka•

Yeah, unless he has a beard that's an identical matching green to his armor, that's not a beard

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TheFriesofHorus•

1000% not a beard

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WeeedusTanith First and Only•

Yea, you can see kinda clearly that it is the lower part of his helmet. The visor (?) is over it. Like the chin part from iron man.

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Fitboi420•

So GW is making Eldar anime waifus. .........yessssss.

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BPenkoOPBlack Templars•

By the Emperor, begone coomer!

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downvotemeplz2•

He is merely an inquistor from the Ordos xenos who wishes to acquire one for further documentation on the aeldari race, truly a devoted servant of the emperor!

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Mrsam_25Grey Knights•

BROTHER!! I heard the ordos xenos always look for something called a "SAUCE" or the fabled "NUMBERS" Is it hersey.

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UrukubarrNight Lords•

Only heresy when you fail to provide.

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JAWilliams79•

As someone who wasn’t upset about the music from the very first animation trailer, this seems much more on brand! Still by no means gothic, I mean realistically dual of fates over a 40k battle would be more than fitting, but I’m digging it! Also, sweet to see the Aeldari making a major appearance.

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deeare73•

I very much liked the music in the first trailer and this one.

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lennert_hdBiel-Tan•

Wow, this seems great! Nice variety of animation styles and lots of awesome story set-ups. I'm particularly very happy to see the Exodites getting some love!

However, every time I see an "Angels of Death" trailer something about the voice acting seems ... inconsistent? Am I alone in this? I loved Emma Gregory's performance of Captain Solkan so far but the "Such hatred, such loss." line seemed a bit off somehow.

I just really hope they nail the audio in the final version, since I'm so excited for some Blood Angels action!

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ThunderMohawkGrey Knights•

I'm surprised I had to search this far to find someone else who thought the voice acting in the clip was... terrible, tbh.

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TheMightyFishBus•

Might be me, but I swear that line is cut together, like that shit they pull in film trailers. Probably why the delivery seems a bit iffy.

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A_Hideous_BeastImperial Fists•

I def agree, she's not a bad actor, but there is just something off about what we have seen. Maybe it seems off sync cuz its trailer stuff?

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ResolverOshawottAsuryani•

Maybe the such hatred line was spoken by an eldar character? That's my theory.

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lennert_hdBiel-Tan•

Yes! That would work perfectly! I wouldn't mind this voice from an Eldar Harlequin. It is so over the top that I can easily see a pompous High Avatar saying it.

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Bealer1992•

Finally some anime I could actually watch

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XavierDeRenegadeAngL•

What I would want to see is all the people that worked on Love, Death & Robots to get the go ahead by Games Workshop to make 30 min shorts for Netflix. Whichever gets the most votes should go onto making a series. I would just be happy with the one-offs.

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MeneldylMymeara•

Hopefully those Eldar will wreck shit up and don't end up slaughtered by some Primaris Marines.

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I_AMA_LOCKMART_SHILLDeathwing•

It's awesome that the Angels of Death series doesn't seem to even have primaris. I'm thinking that the series will probably take place during the Devastation of Baal, and introducing the primaris will probably be a big plot point later on.

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Dolann99World Eaters•

Can't wait to see Devestation of Baal in angels of death.

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gaza4•

Anyone know what happened to the Instagram page they used to have??? Warhammer Storyforge. Just checked and its gone...

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MrlinguisticNight Lords•

Those clips of space marines gave me huge flashbacks to Richard Boylans Hellsreach animation. I wonder if he had a hand in those clips.

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BPenkoOPBlack Templars•

Yes he waa literally hired by GW

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MrlinguisticNight Lords•

Really!? That’s awesome I’m even more hype now for these animations to come out

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Jmmz6•

They didn't show the night lords (talos and company), I am disappointed

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WhalenOnF00lsBlood Angels•

I didn’t even know they were doing a Night Lords series!

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Midnight-RisingKabal of the Obsidian Rose•

The eldar one is looking promising. Can't wait to see how they fuck it up

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