[993] Untitled TSC Ch.1
Hello r/DestructiveReaders, I've been lurking for a few weeks now, and I am ready to share some work to get honest feedback. I've dabbled in writing for a while, and my wife is very biased (That's nice love, I liked it)
So, some unbiased, honest and high-effort feedback would do me some good.
Untitled TSC Ch.1 <- My story
This piece is the opening section of a larger story. What I really what to know is
- Does it grab you?
- Does it keep you engaged?
- Would you read further?
I have deliberately kept character descriptions of the protagonist to a minimum, as she is described and introduced in the following sections; my goal with this intro is to start with some action, and establish a hook.
As a writer, I am prone to verbosity, passive-voice abuse/misuse, comma-splicing, and unnecessarily long sentences.
I have written and rewritten this section of work dozens of time to try stamp those bad habits out, along with aggressively purging adverbs in favour of better writing, but still they creep in, please feel free to point out and correct any instances of the habits mentioned.
The Critiques I've done
[Mods, being my first critiques, I did three just in case I didn't meet the threshold test for high-value critique. Could you give me a "Yay, this is good" / "Hmm, you did just enough, do more next time" or "Nope, this sucks" so I can get a sense for where I'm at with critique?]
Posted Nov 11, 2020, 6:20 PM UTC
Thanks for posting. I hope this helps or at least gives you something other than the loving spouse response. I am not a great writer or an expert of any kind. Feel free to totally disregard.
Overall It’s nice. I like it. Okay seriously. I tend to read mostly fantasy, science fiction, and weird. I love airships and all sort of things. Lots of promise here, but the language and writing bogged it down. Funny enough, usually it is world building that slaughters things for me on initial reads. Something about this story read to me like the introduction to a console RPG game, where my character has to “learn” the game mechanics in an epic start (ship crashing).
Characters We have Masilda and Zoe. Masilda is fighting a fever of unknown origin and is not quarantined from the rest onboard. Zoe reads like Newt from Aliens. To little really going on to get a fully feeling for either character at this stage. Masilda is definitely coming across as a good, caring person—but not really enough “meat” here to get a feel for either of them beyond quick caricature.
Setting Cloud Warden. Given the name, my mind went for airship or dirigible kind of thing. I liked the name, but I really did not get a full feel if this is supposed to be a claustrophobic below deck tight quarters of little light or some airy pleasure cruiser. Uncertain also if this is tech or magic holding this thing afloat, but it seems people can be above deck and in flight.
Hook The ship is crashing. The SHIP is CRASHING. But, I don’t fully get the impact (ba dum dum) of that until the end of the chapter despite foreshadowing it fairly obviously through out that something “bad” is happening.
Tension Despite the setting, the tension did not really grab me. Masilda has no real interest in catching up with Zoe. Her motivation is to comfort a crying child, right? But, I have no information at that point. For all I know, the kid is scared and hurt, but they are on a luxury cruiser with her rich noble family partying just a few meters away and Masilda is a goodie goodie two shoes. It could be an introduction of upstairs/downstairs class dynamics or creepy adult interact with someone who is not their kid. Not knowing the culture or having a real feel for those things yet, I am stuck using my cues, which led to me thinking about Newt. Honestly, though, it did not read with that sense of urgency. She is able to quickly scamper away seemingly okay and why wouldn’t she run away from the feverish stranger she was probably told to avoid (eg convalescing person —don’t go near).
Flow/Pace Your sentences are varied, but your verbiage is definitely fairly passive and distancing. So, although, the sentences flowed, the pace dragged.
Take the whole first paragraph, it is trying to set this idea of lapses in time with a “struggle to recall.” The character herself is in a distant sort of place. Also, seems rather off that she has been left “incoherent” but all we see of her is her responding and communicating appropriately. Shaken awake. Feels okay. Goes to investigate. Sees a kid needing comfort. Bodies also don’t seem incoherent to me. It feels like two thoughts: her body is unresponsive and atrophied while her mind is having trouble processing?
The word choices read fairly distracting at times even though none of them were say hyper specific jargon. Similar to incoherent reading weird to me, “the sway of the ship translate through her hammock” or “dismount manoeuvre.” Translate works, but reads odd giving the more common meaning of language and not say the more physics test question of moving from one thing to another. If there is a metaphor of a linen hammock swinging on a ship causing miscommunications in its sway, I did not really get it. Dismount manoeuvre is just redundant, but feels like playing at some sort of humor to the scene as if there is an elaborate Masilda triple-lache, but did read heavy and dragged at the pace.
Blocking I would prefer more dynamic fast paced wording for the action, BUT I totally followed what was happening and had a feel for the movement. So, even if the floor dropping away because of turbulence read with little urgency, I understood what was happening. Sometimes when reading too much fast paced urgent action, the blocking does get lost or could be even worse an overdone exposition train. The blocking here worked.
Plot Recover person wakes up aboard a ship being attacked. Trying to figure out what is happening, she comes across a scared girl who runs away to her death. The ship is crashing.
Descriptions I did not feel overly bogged down or pulled in by the descriptions of things. Two things that did stand out were the descriptions used to describe the hammock and the tremors/vibrations. Cumbersome? Things read cluttered and a little bit muddied. Calling it a suspended bed struck me as odd. Also, some of the words could have used more of a reference frame for me:
“The tremors were harsh in comparison. The vibrations travelled through the ship, down the cords of the fabric suspending her hammock and into her body.”
Versus: "These tremors were harsh. Their vibrations travelled through the ship, down the cords, through her hammock, and into her body.”
These tremors are different. It is their vibrations. Still, ‘travelled’ is ho-hum compared to say shook or something more dynamic. ‘Down the cords of the fabric suspending her hammock and into her body’ is also a drag to the pace of something that is basically a violent percussive force ripping though. Take this parallel: The lightning was bright. The thunder travelled through the building, down the bricks of the wall holding her Murphy bed and into her body. It’s overly descriptive in process without a strong payoff for me as a reader. I don’t get more of an understanding of tremor A versus tremor B.
The descriptions got a little bit wonky at the end. Ice being compared to a pairing knife ok...some great big swordy sword got a bit odd.
Also, how does a blade of bone dragging across wood sound different from another type of blade? I think the words were trying to go for that splintering (?) in the way both wood and bone snap, but was lost by that specificity.
Passivity/Psychic Distance I personally think more than some of the odd word choices, what really took me out of Masilda’s immediacy with little benefit to the action or understanding her motivation, was the unnecessary clauses and passive distancing in the words. It hid the plot with no reward.
Lots of ‘was’ and ‘were.’ She felt, she realised. Clauses within clauses. “[T]owards the stairs that gave access to the flight deck, alert for any more changes in the ships’ bearing.” Why not toward the flight deck stairs? What does the ‘alert clause’ really do? Her focus is on the stairs and the child, right? ‘Without incident’ is wholly unnecessary given the time span. This is not her wandering a few weeks in a desert. This is her “padding” her way through a ship that is tilting.
What the excess clauses do is make me as a reader gloss over the terrifying urgency of an imminent ship wreck. Without incident? The whole world is off its axis.
The girl called Zoe screaming? She heard Zoe screaming. Why set the distance in the immediacy of the scene?
“[M]ultiple puncture wounds. The weapon of their demise…” just clogs the works. Devastation greeted her. Bodies bled all over the deck from shards of ice ranging from slender slivers to jagged chunks. Don’t use that, but bring those thoughts together as opposed to filler between them. If its a hailstorm of ice blades impaling (already understood from her at the doorway), then we already get “multiple puncture wounds” and “weapons of their demise” is just clunky. But, worse, it takes us away from the scene. Even if it is trying to foreshadow that this is a deliberate magical assault of some kind, it stops the pace and distances the reader from the death and destruction.
“The pause to observe…” and then later “Had she been standing in the doorway, or further…” are totally things that take me as a reader out of the face that ice shrapnel just ripped through parts of the craft.
The accumulation of all these things ruins the immediacy and threat for me as a reader, which is directly what you are asking: does it grab me? keep me engaged? No. Does the plot? As it were here yes. I love the idea of an airship being attacked by an ice weapon, magic, or tech. Would I read further? With this current style of writing, I would probably not unless a friend who really enjoyed the plot recommended it for me to read.
Thank you for the feedback u/Grauzevn8!
There were some things I didn't understand in your feedback, or a I couldn't figure out what you referring to in my own text, but re-reading of both my story and your critique over and over have resolved some of them for me.
I still have questions though, but I want to make sure I'm not just being an I-D-10-T before asking them, so more re-reading is in order.
That all to say - I may come back a bit later with those questions if I still can't figure them out.
Also, would you be open to me sending you a revision once I've applied some of the Critique?
Feel totally free to ask away. Also, by no means am I any sort of expert. I think looking at u/fisticuffsam 's critique in conjunction with mine the areas of overlap are maybe described differently, but pointing at similar things both of us felt off. I am glad that they liked "translate." I have posted here and had responses in stark contrast with each other and funny enough, found in that split reaction, something special. If that makes sense.
Sorry if my critique was confusing. Some of it may be having written it on a mobile and typo/autocorrect stuff.
Time permitting, I will gladly read a reworked version. Advice though: wait at least a week before really returning to it and editing.
Yes, I'll definitely be taking both Critiques into consideration with a rewrite. Your advice to wait before rewriting is good as well, although I'll likely be forced to do that anyway, as I start a new job next week. Thanks again!