Light is not the fundamental forces.

Traveler

In this post I will be fully explaining the nature of Arc, Solar and Void Light.

"Into the void, the spark. From the spark, the fire. After the fire, the void." – Nerigal Savant III

Light is not the fundamental forces.

At least not in a discrete one-for-one fashion as most theories suggest. Rather Light and its three forms represent the relationships between matter and energy as a process dictated by Quantum field theory.

"Stop thinking of the world as an outcome. Start thinking of it as a process." – Nerigal Savant III

Note: the following is some pretty deep science. Feel free to skip to “Solar Light Explained” if it doesn’t interest you.

Quantum Field Theory

The fundamental forces arise from that, given that each force represents the exchange of bosons (force particles) between fermionic matter (both leptonic and baryonic) in different stages of excitation.

Most matter that we interact with is made up of Fermionic matter. Fermions make up leptons (electrons and neutrinos) as well as quarks, which in turn make up baryonic matter. Baryonic matter makes up protons and neutrons.

Bosons are the quantum excitations that transfer force between the different particles. So

· Photons - carriers of electromagnetic force between electons observable as light and heat.

· Gluons - carriers of strong nuclear force between the quarks that glue protons and neutrons in the nucleus.

· W and Z bosons - carriers of weak nuclear force between quarks and neutrinos and are responsible for radioactive decay.

· Gravitons - hypothesized to be the carrier of gravitational force between two massive objects.

Quantum field theory (QFT) treats all these particles of matter as “excited states” or quanta of their underlying quantum fields. From quantum field theory we get Quantum Electrodynamics which is “The quantum theory of the emission and absorption of radiation”. So electrons and photons are seen as different perturbations of the electromagnetic quantum vacuum.

We also get the related concept of Quantum Chromodynamics which is the same principle where quarks and gluons are seen as perturbations of the QCD vacuum and explains the strong force as well as exotic hypothetical particles such as axions.

So matter can be considered as simply vacuum fluctuations.

It’s from these fluctuations that the secrets of Solar and Arc light can be understood.

Energy States

In quantum mechanics, all particles confined spatially are believed to take on certain discrete quanta of energy, called energy levels. The best way to understand this is to look at one quantum field in particular, the electromagnetic field which governs the behavior of electrons.

Within an atom you have a nucleus made up of baryonic matter (protons and neutrons) and surrounded by a cloud of electrons, a type of lepton. Hydrogen for instance has a single proton surrounded by a single electron. Heavier elements contain more particles.

Each electron in the atom can be in a different energy state, and this energy state dictates its orbit around the nucleus. So electrons in a higher orbit will be in a higher energy state than electrons in a lower orbit. Also no two electrons can occupy the same orbit, known as the Pauli exclusion principle.

A good way to imagine this is to imagine our solar system as an atom with the sun as the nucleus and each planet as an electron. If our solar system was an atom then mercury would be in a lower energy state than say Neptune.

Spontaneous emission

Now electrons are not bound to these energy states but rather can move between these energy states by the emission and absorption of a particular boson known as a photon. Spontaneous emission is the process in which a molecule, an atom or a subatomic particle) transits from an excited energy state to a lower energy state and emits a quantized amount of energy in the form of a photon.

Photons are the force carrier of the electromagnetic force and we can observe this in the electromagnetic spectrum as light in the visible spectrum, heat or thermal radiation in the infrared and as UV and gamma radiation in the ultra-violet spectrum.

Now photons are important because they represent how electrons can transfer energy. So if an electron receives a photon (or packet of energy) it will get more excited and increase its orbit from the nucleus. If the electron was to cool down and become a little less excited it can do the opposite and release energy in the form of a photon. Once a photon is released it will return to a lower orbit/energy state.

Solar Light Explained

Energy is carried by quanta, tiny messengers of change. In the understanding of these messengers lies the secret of Solar Light.

This forms the mechanism of solar light, namely the control over bosons and the emission of energy. By transferring the energy of the Traveler externally Guardians can influence matter around them by causing excitations in the quantum field. As the quantum fields interact with bosons we emit it increases in energy and by proxy the energy of its particles.

The more excited the particles get, the more entropy is increased in the system and thermodynamic laws take over. Matter subjected to Solar light will gain heat, and then release this energy as photons producing light. This is why we observe Solar light to look like fire and to look like the Sun. The same process happens in the sun with billions upon billions of energetic particles releasing energy in the form of light and heat to sustain life on Earth.

But, an interesting thing about atoms is that there are in fact limits to these energy states. Just as Neptune can only be so far away from the Sun before the Suns gravity can no longer hold it in orbit, so too do electrons have a limit known as the binding energy of the atom.

Binding Energy

If an electron receives too much energy which takes it above the binding energy of the atom, one of two things can happen. It can either release the energy as a photon to return to a lower state or leave the orbit of the atom entirely.

Since orbit states are in discrete quanta (i.e you can be at energy level 1 or energy level 2.. not energy level 1.5) sometimes it’s not possible to just release the energy so the electron has no choice but to say adios. During this process the atom or molecule becomes ionized in a process known as ionization.

This process forms the basis of electrical currents (i.e electricity) as well as the electrostatic forces that define positive and negative charge of molecules. It’s also the process that binds molecules through attraction and repulsion in chemical processes to create complex matter such as cells, DNA and the building block of life. This is the nature of Arc light.

Arc Light Explained

Complex matter is bound together by deep forces - and in the study of this binding lies the secret of Arc Light.

So if Solar light is necessary to sustain life, Arc light is necessary in the creation of life and all complex matter – including our brains and nervous systems – that allow sentient creatures to think and feel. In the destiny universe, Arc light is responsible for the soul. As the flavor text says:

A spark can give life...or take it.

It’s little wonder then that we see Arc light being used often in the context of a soul or spark of life. Arc souls for instance as well as the Arkborn, a sentient race of arc energy that live in massive conduits. Just as electrical signals pass from our brain to our body through our nervous system, Arc Light in the destiny universe is what allows everyone including non-light bearers to think and feel – to have a soul – to be alive. It’s why Ghosts looks for a spark when trying to find their charge. And why Dredgen Yor said to his victim

“You have no Light beyond the spark of your pathetic life. But a spark is something.”

Control over these forms of light seems to be emission versus absorption in an electrodynamic sense; Solar light being the external emission of Light in the form of radiant energy that produces light and heat in matter; Arc being the internal absorption of energy to the point which electrons or other particles are energized above the binding energy of quantum field and released, building up electrostatic charge and then creating electrical arcs between differently charged matter.

Please note that I am just using electromagnetism as an example. But these principles can theoretically be applied to all fundamental forces. There are for instance many different types of binding energy. Ionization energy is just one. There is also atomic binding energy, nuclear binding energy, molecular bond energy, etc.

While binding energy represents the maximum state of the quantum field, there is also a minimum state or ground state. This is the lowest state a particle can occupy. In quantum field theory, the quantum vacuum state is the quantum state with the lowest possible energy. A quantum field in this state is known as a Zero-point field and from this we can understand the secrets of Void Light.

Void Light Explained

Beneath the world of light and matter lies the vacuum, and the vast dark secrets that it contains. In the understanding of this vacuum lies the secret of Void Light.

According to quantum mechanics, a vacuum isn't empty at all. It's actually filled with quantum energy and particles that blink in and out of existence for a fleeting moment - strange signals that are known as quantum fluctuations. Particles and antiparticles fluctuating in and out of existence and that these fluctuations require energy.

Heisenberg's uncertainty “no object can ever have precise values of position and velocity simultaneously” and the Pauli exclusion principle “no two particles can be in the ground state simultaneously” are the reason why vacuum energy in the void exists.

Physics currently lacks a full theoretical model for understanding zero-point energy but it’s theorized that the zero-point radiation of the vacuum to be an order of magnitude greater than nuclear energy, enough energy to boil all the world’s oceans. Physicists believe the vacuum holds "the key to a full understanding of nature, the creation of our universe and exotic matter such as dark matter".

Since General relativity predicts that energy is equivalent to mass, and therefore, if the vacuum energy is "really there", it should exert a gravitational force. Essentially, a non-zero vacuum energy is expected to contribute to the cosmological constant, which affects the expansion of the universe.

Abyssal Extractors

It’s theorized that if one were able to lower the vacuum energy in one region of space, energy can be extracted as the quantum field moves towards equilibrium in the increase of entropy. While certain effects such as the Casimir effect demonstrate that this is experimentally possible, it’s currently not possible to extract this energy in any great quantity. Clearly guardians are able to use their paracausal powers granted by the Traveler to create void light in sufficient quantities. But, it may not be Light powers that we are using.

While Void light isn't the Darkness, the two are very much interrelated. Since void energy is produced in the disequilibrium of the energy states between two regions of the vacuum, and we know that the Darkness is able to reduce entropy in a region of space as evident with Stasis - then it follows that the Light flowing out of the "negative space" generated by the potential difference between the Dark and the Light as it returns to equilibrium - would be Void light. (This is why Void, like Solar and Arc – is still an entropic force as opposed to a negentropic one like Stasis.)

“See the art in what's subtracted” – Negative Space

So in other words this energy may represent the potential difference between what we perceive to be the vacuum (which in reality still contains energy and particles) and the true vacuum or void of space where there truly is nothing. Ikora stated that the Void is negation, and Guardians would become the ultimate negators. The void is also defined as being absent of Light or Darkness.

We as guardian may also be able to create our own vacuums or False vacuum in order to tap into Void Light. One such consequence of this is Bubble nucleation.

False Vacuums and Wards of Dawn

When the false vacuum decays, the lower-energy true vacuum forms through a process known as bubble nucleation. In this process, quantum effects cause a bubble containing the true vacuum to appear. The walls of the bubble have a positive surface tension, as energy is expended as the fields roll over the potential barrier to the true vacuum. This is how Titans create a Ward of Dawn.

Philosophically, if Solar light represents the dynamism of life and the energy and heat that sustains it, and Arc light represents the soul of life, that which binds the body and the mind – Void light can be seen as both death and rebirth – the moment after a fire is extinguished or before a spark is ignited.

A PLACE WHERE EVERYTHING DIES……AND BEGINS ANEW.

"The Thanatonauts say the Void is what you see in that brief moment between death and rebirth. It is the in-between, the pause." —Osiris

I hope this clears things up and provides a more holistic understanding of Light and it’s physical, metaphysical and spiritual relation to light, life and matter. I will be using this as a basis for further theories exploring the science of Destiny.

Please let me know your thoughts.


TL;DR - A common misconception is that Arc, Void and Solar are one to one comparisons to the fundamental forces (electromagnetic, strong and weak forces and gravity). What I’m saying is that Arc, Void and Solar represent different stages of each force acting on a quantum field. Solar is the emission of energy in quanta. Arc is the absorption of energy exciting particles above the binding state (freeing the particle). Void is the potential energy of the vacuum state.

Posted Dec 1, 2020, 12:46 PM UTC · edited

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WhimsicalJape•

This is a great write up, but my understanding was that the different varieties of light were analogous to the fundamental forces, not the forces themselves.

The light, like the dark, is not grounded in anything in the physical world, both existed outside of and before the universe even began.

I think guardians wield the light/dark in the ways we do because that’s the best understanding we have of the universe, but both the Pyramids and the Traveller have used their powers in much different ways and have done things that we have 0 idea of how to do, like the Traveller terraforming the way it did or the way the Darkness can control gravity.

But I Iove your analysis of how we guardians wield the light in the way we do.

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LettuceDifferent5104OP:scholar: Lore Scholar•

I didn’t have time to go into string theory and the extradimensional origin of both the Light and Darkness. But suffice to say the effects we witness from the Light do have some real world applications that go beyond simply “arc is electromagnetism, solar is strong nuclear force, void is gravity” that I commonly see.

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WhimsicalJape•

But suffice to say the effects we witness from the Light do have some real world applications that go beyond simply “arc is electromagnetism, solar is strong nuclear force, void is gravity” that I commonly see.

Yeah those sentiments always came off as extremely simplistic, and falls flat because we know those energy types can be generated without the light. Weapons have arc/void/solar, they're not empowered by the light, our enemies also use them and most do not wield the light or dark.

Obviously there's an element of the game design clashing with the lore here, but we've had enough examples to know that our wielding of the light mirrors the elements that the golden age had generated.

The paracausal aspect of the way we wield these forces seems to be that we use the light to generate them, not that they are in and of themselves part of the light. We don't need a huge energy generator to create void energy, we can use the light to do it for us.

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LettuceDifferent5104OP:scholar: Lore Scholar•

Spot on. I think of the Light as a paracausal source of energy, essentially being able to borrow energy from parallel dimensions and use it to control or bend the physical world to do our bidding.

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WhimsicalJape•

Absolutely, and I love this interpretation in the context of the way the final shape is talked about:

And what is that final shape? It is a fire without fuel, burning forever, killing death, asking a question that is its own answer, entirely itself. That is what we must become.

From XXIIII of the Books of Sorrow, and if that doesn't describe the way we wield the light I don't know what does!

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Shadows802•

Wouldn't that suggest that there isn't conservation of information and that some universe is losing energu?

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Gyrskogul•

Excellent write up, looking forward to the next one to touch on string theory!

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Kezyma•

Ahh yes, string theory, the noble art of continually making up new, ever more convoluted dimensions to explain away all the flaws in your theory!

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juanconj_:ares: Ares One•

Makes you wonder why it is that Stasis is inherent to the Darkness and not possible to produce for the Light.

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Guardian-PK•

The light, like the dark, is not grounded in anything in the physical world, both existed outside of and before the universe even began.

Either of [them] mostly Physically Act on themselves through a [Traveler] (for the [Gardener]) or through the [Pyramids] (for the [Winnower]) in the Physical universes of Destiny.

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hereforthedndmemes•

Imma keep it real wit you chief, I didn’t understand much of that really, but I do think from what I did understand that you’re onto something. My biggest issue with understanding is the twenty or so new concepts thrown at you when I had no ideas about quantum physics at all before this.

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LettuceDifferent5104OP:scholar: Lore Scholar•

Sorry! I really wish I could simplify it more. This is more of a primer post so that I can explain future darkness subclasses in depth. My next post will detail the relationship between Arc Light and Soulfire.

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yldraziw•

This game is what i play it for.

Deeply considered quantum field theories, QCD, and atomic secrets all because of a video game.

I'm telling you, if reality doesn't make itself interesting for us humans, we will in turn make reality interesting for ourselves

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Tolkius•

I do think that is better than associating the varieties to the fundamental forces, which has a lot of misconceptions about Physics (I'm saying that as a physicist).

However, I also don't quite agree with your analysis. Especially since I've noticed that Hunter's tethers is very close to what we understand about the geometry of dark matter (and well, Nova Bomb follows the same geometry as well). So I think that at least Void is linked to manipulating dark matter somehow, although I agree that Solar and Arc can be linked to barionic matter.

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LettuceDifferent5104OP:scholar: Lore Scholar•

Well considering that an Axion bolt is considered a bolt of void light and Axions are considered a hypothetical component of cold dark matter - absolutely the Void is associated with dark matter!

I’m not an expert on dark matter so I didn’t write too much about it but I know that axions were hypothesised as a solution to the CP problem in quantum chromodynamics.

So I think my field theory still takes dark matter into consideration too.

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Tolkius•

Do you have that paper? I almost made my research about detecting dark matter in space and have a friend making some interesting research there, I would love to see the relation between it and Chromodynamics, another fascinating topic.

(since my life does not make much sense, I now research archaeological ceramics and work with Archaeology haha)

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LettuceDifferent5104OP:scholar: Lore Scholar•
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LettuceDifferent5104OP:scholar: Lore Scholar•

u/Tolkius did you get a chance to read my post on dark energy? I actually went into a lot of explanations about dark matter and Void.

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heckadoyoucanto•

Can I please get a tldr on this, I’m lazy and too many words

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LettuceDifferent5104OP:scholar: Lore Scholar•

A common misconception is that Arc, Void and Solar are one to one comparisons to the fundamental forces (electromagnetic, strong and weak forces and gravity). What I’m saying is that Arc, Void and Solar represent different stages of each force acting on a quantum field. Solar is the emission of energy in quanta. Arc is the absorption of energy exciting particles above the binding state (freeing the particle). Void is the potential energy of the vacuum state.

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GeneralBattuta:grimoire: Grimoire Writer•

Bang on.

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heckadoyoucanto•

Thanks homie

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LettuceDifferent5104OP:scholar: Lore Scholar•

You’re welcome! Thanks for trying to read it :)

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GeneralBattuta:grimoire: Grimoire Writer•

Wow, this gets a lot closer to what I was thinking with the void/arc/solar descriptions than anything else I've read.

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LettuceDifferent5104OP:scholar: Lore Scholar•

Thankyou!

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Chieroscuro•

The Light & Dark are the same. Cause/effect engines that allow the spontaneous manipulation of the quantum field through deliberate act of Will. The difference is that the Light wants to break physics in order to foster harmonious cooperation and the Dark breaks physics in return to prove that it doesn’t change anything.

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GeneralBattuta:grimoire: Grimoire Writer•

This is a really good post.

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Chieroscuro•

Thanks!

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Guardian-PK•

the [Two] Sides are still Different in this continuous War, when not viewing the Similar [Paracausal] Forces that they are in a state of 'superpowers'.

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Thanatoast02•

We need a kurzgesagt on this...they have covered several parts of this.

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thrashmetaloctopus•

God I love this shit FEED ME SCIENCE

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YukiLu234:siva: ~SIVA.MEM.CL001•

I think I understand what I just read... maybe? It was very well-written, for sure, though. I like that this exists, even if I'm unsure whether I understand the whole thing or not.

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Ihavenoimaginaation:nine2: Emissary of the Nine•

I always love posts like this, even if I can’t fully understand them :)

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sanecoin64902:tri: Hot Dog Fireman•

Good.

Now reduce it to the wave formulas and consider the geometric model of a Fourier Transformation done using the complex plane. Consider, especially, how the weighting of the various wrapping of the curves disambiguates combined waveforms in a Fourier Transformation and what that tells you about how one might evaluate Quantum principles and the model you just described.

For a simple version of this, consider how the reverberations of a choir singing, say, the word “Mercurio” might be broken down into its component parts, much like you have described the components of the atom with a solar system analogy.

Do you see?

This is the application of the skills of the Quadrivium to Quantum theory. This is how ancient Hermetic principles and the works of Plato and Pythagorus apply in a sci-FI universe.

Consider Time (like the Complex Plane) ever present but never represented in any physical instance (ever present but never represented in any mathematical problem composed only of real numbers). How then do the fundamentals of quantum physics and basic number theory overlap? What happens when you change a fixed real variable to an imaginary quantum probability? Do you see how this solves the false vacuum misunderstanding?

The insight that might creep up on you - if you’ve been reading your Plato - is that the False Vacuum with all of its unborn unsullied probability of causation is, in many ways, akin to the Dimension of Forms. A place where ideas exist but are not held in any mind we comprehend. But whose mind would that be? And if thoughtforms exist independently of matter or energy - as merely the possibility of an outcome that might pop into existence from some unseen but ever present realm - what does that say about the entity that is the Guardian? Indeed, what does that say about the consciousness of the player of the game stuck inside his or her meat sack of cells, amino acids, proteins are other muck?

One Path; many encryptions. From quantum mechanics to consciousness, the same problem through a thousand lenses. But I’ve hopped up a level to the duality and you are discussing the Trinity....

Solar, Arc, Void; Warlock, Titan, Hunter; Human, Exo, Awoken.

A trio of Trinities. How nice.

Quantum Mechanics always makes my head hurt. Or maybe that’s the hangover from the Radiolarian Mai Tais? Who knows, really?

Anyway, nice write up!

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sanecoin64902:tri: Hot Dog Fireman•

Good.

Now reduce it to the waves and consider the geometric model of a Fourier Transformation done using the complex plane. Consider, especially, how the weighting of the various wrapping of the curves disambiguates the combined waveforms in the FT and what that tells you about how one might evaluate Quantum principles and the model you just described.

For a simple version of this, consider how the reverberations of a choir singing, say, the word “Mercurio” might be broken down into its component notes. Much like you have illustrated the mathematical Quantum model with the visual and comprehensible planetary metaphor, could you, perhaps, create a drawing of the waveform interrelationships of a single musical scale? Something like Alpha Lupi?

Do you see?

Syncretic storytelling, but instead of smushing together the world’s religions, we overlay the remarkably similar structures of science and true historic magic. Alchemy redoux.

This is the application of the skills of the Quadrivium to Quantum theory. This is how ancient Hermetic principles and the works of Plato and Pythagorus apply in a sci-fi universe. This is how the basic tools of Newton and Bacon are always relevant.

Consider Time (like the Complex Plane) ever present but never represented in any physical instance (ever present but never represented in any mathematical problem composed only of real numbers). How then do the fundamentals of quantum physics and basic number theory overlap? What happens when you change a fixed real variable to an imaginary quantum probability? Do you see how this suggests a solution to the false vacuum problem (or at least a different toolset to attack a similarly vexatious logical pimple in need of popping)? When you take a photograph on a digital camera, what happens to the light between the pixels? Can we ever be sure it was there from looking at only the picture? Where did it go?

The insight that might creep up on you - if you’ve been reading your Plato - is that the False Vacuum with all of its unborn unsullied probability of causation is, in many ways, akin to the Dimension of Forms. A place where ideas exist but are not held in any mind we comprehend. A place that is not empty but that contains nothing. (No one can open the Vault alone.)

And anyway, whose mind would that be? Storing those unbirthed thoughts? That unrealized quantum probability? That void attack yet to be unleashed? Where is the boundary between idea and action anyway? What Quantum equation accounts for Will or for the ever present tick tock structure of our Destiny?

And if thoughtforms exist independently of matter or energy - as merely the possibility of an outcome that might pop into existence from some unseen but ever present realm - what does that say about the entity that is the Guardian? Indeed, what does that say about the consciousness of the player of the game stuck inside his or her meat sack of cells, amino acids, proteins are other muck?

One Path; many encryptions. From quantum mechanics to consciousness, the same problem through a thousand lenses.

But I’ve hopped up a level to the Duality and you are discussing the Trinity.... I shouldn’t confuse the issue.

Solar, Arc, Void; Warlock, Titan, Hunter; Human, Exo, Awoken.

A trio of Trinities. How nice.

Quantum Mechanics always makes my head hurt. Or maybe that’s the hangover from the Radiolarian Mai Tais? Who knows, really?

Anyway, nice write up!

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LettuceDifferent5104OP:scholar: Lore Scholar•

Ahh sanecoin... you never cease to confuse me. :)

And thankyou!

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sanecoin64902:tri: Hot Dog Fireman•

A wise man once told me something very important...

But I forgot it. So now I just make shit up and hope he never asks me about it.

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uwuwizard•

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Gud.

Now w-weduce iwt tuwu teh waves awnd considew teh geometwic modew of a Fouwiew Twansfowmation dun using teh c-compwex pwane. Considew, especiawwy, how teh weighting of teh vawious wwapping of teh cuwves disambigwates teh combined wavefowms in teh FT a-awnd what dat tewws yuw about how one might e-evawwate Qwantum pwincipwes awnd teh modew yuw juwst d-descwibed.

Fow a simpwe vewsion of dis, considew how teh wevewbewations of a c-choiw singing, say, teh wowd “Mewcuwio” might be b-bwoken down i-into its component notes. Much wike yuw have iwwustwated teh madematicaw Qwantum modew wid teh viswaw awnd c-compwehensibwe pwanetawy metaphow, couwd yuw, pewhaps, c-cweate a dwawing of teh wavefowm intewwewationships of a singwe m-musicaw scawe? Someding wike Awpha Wupi?

Do yuw sea?

Syncwetic stowytewwing, but instead of smushing togedew teh wowwd’s wewigions, we ovewway teh wemawkabwy simiwaw stwuctuwes of s-science awnd t-twue histowic magic. Awchemy wedoux.

Dis iws teh appwication of teh skiwws of teh Qwadwivium tuwu Q-Qwantum deowy. Dis iws how ancient Hewmetic pwincipwes awnd teh wowks of Pwato awnd Pydagowus a-appwy in a sci-fi univewse. Dis iws how teh basic toows of Newton awnd Bacon awe awways wewevant.

Considew Time (wike teh Compwex P-Pwane) evew pwesent but nevew wepwesented in any physicaw i-instance (evew pwesent but nevew wepwesented in any madematicaw pwobwem c-composed onwy of w-weaw numbews). How den do teh fundamentaws of qwantum physics awnd basic numbew d-deowy ovewwap? What happens when yuw change a fixed weaw v-vawiabwe tuwu an imaginawy qwantum pwobabiwity? Do yuw sea how dis suggests a sowution tuwu teh fawse vacuum pwobwem (ow at weast a diffewent toowset tuwu attack a s-simiwawwy vexatious wogicaw pimpwe in need of popping)? When yuw take a p-photogwaph on a digitaw camewa, w-what happens tuwu teh wight between teh pixews? Can we e-evew be s-suwe iwt was dewe fwom wooking at onwy teh pictuwe? Whewe did iwt gow?

Teh insight dat might cweep up on yuw - if yuw’ve b-been weading youw Pwato - iws dat teh Fawse Vacuum wid aww of its unbown unsuwwied pwobabiwity of causation iws, in m-many ways, akin tuwu teh Dimension of Fowms. A pwace whewe ideas exist but awe not hewd in any mind we compwehend. A pwace dat iws not empty but dat c-contains noding. (No one can open teh Vauwt awone.)

Awnd a-anyway, whose mind wouwd dat be? Stowing dose unbiwded doughts? Dat unweawized qwantum pwobabiwity? Dat void attack yet tuwu be unweashed? Whewe iws teh boundawy between idea awnd action anyway? What Qwantum e-eqwation accounts fow Wiww ow fow teh e-evew pwesent tick tock stwuctuwe of ouw D-Destiny?

Awnd if doughtfowms exist independentwy of mattew ow e-enewgy - as mewewy teh possibiwity of an outcome dat might pop into existence fwom s-some unseen but evew pwesent weawm - what does dat say a-about teh e-entity dat iws teh Gwawdian? Indeed, what d-does dat say about teh consciousness of teh pwayew of teh game stuck inside hiws ow hew m-meat sack of cewws, amino acids, pwoteins awe odew muck?

One Pad; m-many encwyptions. Fwom qwantum mechanics tuwu c-consciousness, teh same pwobwem dwough a dousand wenses.

But I’ve hopped up a wevew t-tuwu teh Dwawity awnd yuw awe discussing teh Twinity.... I s-shouwdn’t confuse teh issue.

Sowaw, Awc, Void; Wawwock, Titan, Huntew; Human, Exo, Awoken.

A twio of Twinities. How nice.

Qwantum Mechanics awways makes mwy h-head huwt. Ow maybe dat’s teh h-hangovew fwom teh Wadiowawian Mai Tais? Who knows, weawwy?

A-Anyway, nice wwite up!


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Byrmaxson:praxic: Praxic Order•

There's a tendency in this sub to look at descriptions, then skim through a big fuckoff Wiki page and call it a day. Oh, Solar Light is like fire from the sun, how's the sun making heat, oh that's fusion! Wait, fundamental forces and fusion, bah that's the strong interaction, OF COURSE.

The vast majority of us are laymen - me included - and it's a little frustrating to see people so eagerly just make hurried explanations and not think them through or actually study them deeper. So big thanks from me for actually doing this AND making it very accessible!

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LettuceDifferent5104OP:scholar: Lore Scholar•

Einstein said “If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.” So believe me when I say that the act of trying to make it accessible to a wider audience actually helps me to get a better understanding myself. I’m glad you were able to learn something.

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SamarcPS4•

Small thing; when electrons detach from their atoms and they become ionized, those atoms become the fourth state of matter, plasma. The sun is made of plasma so it would follow that solar Light also creates plasma although I do agree that arc Light uses this principle to deliver it's energy to targets.

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LettuceDifferent5104OP:scholar: Lore Scholar•

Yes it does. I’m “trying” to make this accessible to a less educated audience which is why I used the terms fire and sun. But the ionisation I’m referring too is photoionisation. Solar light can produce plasma but it is achieved as a byproduct of excessively heating matter until all the bonds between particles are dissolved and the resulting plasma magnetically contained. This ionised plasma is made up of all particles, not just electrons and ionised molecules. The ionization of Arc Light has the effect of acting internally in order to build electrostatic charge by exciting electrons within matter and then producing an electric “arc” between you and your enemy.

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SamarcPS4•

We're on the same page then, thanks.

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Kashema1•

So, if I’m getting this right: Say we take a fire. While it is burning and creating heat, this would be Solar energy. Arc energy would encompass its movement or “life”, except obviously a fire does not have a soul. More like, the fire moves in a way due to internal and external forces that essentially give it a life of its own. And finally, Void would be the fire the moment it is put out or the moment before it is lit, as you said.

Also, not relating to the elements as much here, but could we, in effect, classify Darkness as Potential energy and Light as Kinetic energy?

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LettuceDifferent5104OP:scholar: Lore Scholar•

Metaphorically speaking yes.

And the light serves to increase complexity and entropy whereas the darkness serves to reduce entropy and increase order.

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Matt1050:student: Lore Student•

This fits my theory that stasis is the darkness equivalent of void. Where light uses energy to break the barrier between our dimension and "the void" creating rifts and gravity wells, stasis creates a void of light/energy, meaning it sucks the energy out of things. It's odd how light is meant to be order and darkness is meant to be destruction but all light subclasses destroy and the first darkness subclass creates. Sure, it destroys life, but crystals are perfectly ordered chemistry wise. Somewhat alludes to the "final shape", perhaps a cold dead husk of absolute zero crystalline matter fits that description. What I find interesting about that is it sounds awfully like the vex. I'm a chemistry major but I'm not entirely certain of the differences in entropy/order between crystals and pure metals but to my understanding metals naturally form and can be found in crystals.

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InterestStunning•

Thanks for the awesome posts. Mindblowing stuff.

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Halfbreed_pyro:student: Lore Student•

Hooray, something I understand and related to my degree!

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LettuceDifferent5104OP:scholar: Lore Scholar•

Awesome!

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Rouge_92•

Omg why when I read this in my books it is not half as fun and exciting like here when it's a Destiny Reddit post?

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