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SnailShells

Post-Match Thread: Arminia Bielefeld (BL13)

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Not even Huub can save us now.

Posted Dec 19, 2020, 4:26 PM UTC

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Aromatic_ReindeerSerdar•

seriously, sell as many high profile players as you can in the winter break and play with whatever you can pull from from the U23. This isnt about staying in the BL anymore. Its about Schalke surviving relegation

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Pibe_de_Oro•

I hope you are in contention for what comes after Schneider. This is the only reasonable way. Sell everything. We will get relegated either way, at least we can make something like 50 mil from Kabak, Harit, Serdar and all the others

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gouin_alchemist•

Yep, also reportedly Real Madrid is interested in Mascarell as the Casemiro bench.

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Pibe_de_Oro•

Do they have a squad with handicapped or blind.players? I would drive that idiot to Madrid personally, wearing a FFP2 mask if flights are cancelled. Worst captain we ever had. Oh wait Oczipka got the armband today...

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Alberto4emgMascarell•

Aren't those the same thing though?

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SnailShellsOPStambouli•

Financially surviving our all but certain relegation to the second tier so that we don't go into administration is what he meant.

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Aromatic_ReindeerSerdar•

I dont think Schalke can evade relegation. So prepare as best as possible. I dont believe it will help in the end but its worth a try

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mzvmixHöwedes•

This is just more evidence that we are literally a 2nd division side, if not worse. I love Huub too much to see him burn years off his life over these jokers.

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Pibe_de_Oro•

Yeahr I am starting to getting afraid, that even if we get a license to play 2nd division we are going to get relegated there

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Alberto4emgMascarell•

Had you told me that, after our win against BMG in January, we were NOT going to win a single f*ing match for the rest of the year, I would have 100% told you you need to seek professional help for being that deluded.

And here we are... More than 7 points off survival. Only a winning run and a well managed January can avoid the end of Schalke.

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S0fourworlds-readytFC Schalke 04•

That day we beat Gladbach, convincingly even, I was so sure we could make CL again. What the hell happened since then...

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PanderII•

Wagner destroyed the team's confidence by talking them down and here we are now.

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S0fourworlds-readytFC Schalke 04•

I hated Wagners attitude so much. Still it can’t be the only reason. In fact I am aware there are many reasonable arguments for what caused this downfall, but I just can’t wrap my head around it why this had to happen to our club, and it makes me so sad. This year was soo embarrassing for all Schalke fans.

We used to be one of the better German teams for all of my lifetime and suddenly we compete with the absolute joke that Tasmania Berlin was.

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Pibe_de_Oro•

Competing would mean we could win one of the next two games. I don't see any way that happens. Hertha is way better from a talent perspective. We don't have a single.player like Cunha oder Boyata. And Hoffe is gonna crush us. Frankfurt too..last hope to win a match maybe this season is cologne until we circle back to Mainz

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rlsN1978-1995•

that game against Bayern afterwards completely broke the team. We were trying to press them aggressively and got totally ripped apart. It feels like that was the game the team kind of lost belief in that system.

Since then it felt like we were always one step behind when pressing opponents which also lead to Wagner adjusting the system to a more passive approach in some games. The team never recovered from that.

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S0fourworlds-readytFC Schalke 04•

WOW. One ( 1 ) win in all of 2020. I don’t want to, but I am starting to doubt if our players even try at this point.

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PanderII•

I've no hope left, we're going down and most likely into administration. It's just sad how a few people could destroy Rudi Assauer's lifework.

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SnailShellsOPStambouli•

Half expect Schneider to rip his shirt superman style on the last day to reveal a Dortmund kit.

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PanderII•

It started well before him, but he's just an incapable manager.

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mzvmixHöwedes•

Rudi in his current state would run the club better than how it is now...

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PanderII•

His current state is being dead...

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SnailShellsOPStambouli•

Exactly

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MrJoker699•

Lmao

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rlsN1978-1995•

well, that coaching-change was a waste. This was probably the worst performance in recent weeks. I almost fell asleep during the first half. I couldn't imagine any way for this team to score a goal.

I'm not blaming Huub, though. There's nothing he can do in that little time. The effort was there but that's it. No structure at all in our attack. In the past we were able to compensate for that with some great individual attacking talent. That's not the case anymore and it shows.

Bielefeld deserved to win. They simply were the better footballing team today. You just have to compare the way they were managing the game late and us managing the game in Augsburg being one man up.

Tough to see how we're going to turn things around in this season. Maybe a new manager and some signings in the winter can breathe some new life into this team but that's hard to realize with our limited financial capabilities.

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aaabuhajaar•

I just feel sorry voor Huub and Serdar..

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IlyaYlyichOblomov•

I have no hope anymore. I thought it would be good to lose it because failed expectations are the reason for our pain, but not even that. I can't see how we're gonna turn this around, it feels impossible and must have taken a huge toll on the team. And I wonder which trainer wants to come to this hellhole. Schalke will have to be rebuilt on the second division, like Stuttgart and many others. We can't create chances and our players are getting worse and worse. But our situation is painfully shocking. The heights we fell from in the space of one year are far more impressive that HSV's, Stuttgart's or Hannover's fall from grace. But next year I hope we'll have a fresh team and fans in the stadium, if we can get the license to even be in the 2. Buli.

I just hope that in the meantime our Ultras don't do something stupid

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GanGtoni1929–1945•

4 players offside from 1 pass. Oczipka and Sané walking in our box just for the sake of walking there, having their brains turned off and forgetting they're there to defend. Fail throw-ins. Free kick 40 metres away won't even reach the box. Our strikers are defending. Our defenders are attacking. Sané is the only one upfront in the 4th minute of extra time.

These guys are straght up griefing

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Otherwise-Context-48•

I could see the goal happening in slow motion... they turned off for a second and bang...it was in. It was too bad because other then a few hiccups, to that point we'd played alright.

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GanGtoni1929–1945•

These players need to at least have their Lambos incinerated. How are you paid millions, actually, how are you even paid for this shit?

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FlyingDutchman1337•

How many winless games in a row is this?

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TuxehovedHarit•

29, two more to get Tasmania’s record

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Elliot_LuNaFährmann•

Pretty sure that was the final nail in the coffin. I have absolutely no idea where you would even begin to change. It feels like it doesn't matter if we change Schneider/board/players/coaches, everything is just cursed.

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Im_Dat_Boi_TOM•

Sell the entire team, don't keep one player, I bet there are so many more youth players that are dying to get a chance to play. Watching the last few games there is not one player that convinces me to be a good fit for the team. Just do a hard reset, sell all of the players in January, we're gonna get relegated anyways, might as well give it a go

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ltplummer96•

I was predicting a 3-0 loss so this is a win in my books.

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CharlieGuriCaligiuri•

VersaGEr

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putcoolusernamehere•

Can the club financially survive relegation?

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bcatch25•

My guess is no. 250m euros in debt while in the second division screams what happened with Palermo and Parma in Italy.

I really hope I’m wrong.

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Pibe_de_Oro•

The problem is not debt, it's cash flow. We pretty much pawned of all future earnings for years. Those earnings are gonna be way smaller than expected (attendance, tv deal, sponsorships). It's gonna be super tough unless we sell off everything. And then it's a question if we can stay in the 2nd division with a squad made out of u23 players

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Otherwise-Context-48•

It is clear to see that the team cannot score right now and much of that has to do with the loss of all the true strikers in the squad. Injury and whatever happened discipline wise have really hurt in that regard.

Does anyone know if there is an even half decent striker in the u23 squad for January? Uth I expect will be some time. Pacienca, who knows what the recovery from surgery will look like

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TuxehovedHarit•

Well I’m guessing Hoppe is what we have from the U23 striker-wise

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Otherwise-Context-48•

Right, forgot about him... damn...

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royalbusterSerdar•

Goodbye Bundesliga

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