The Black Flash Ally List That You Need (Active "Turn Meter Up")

The upcoming character Black Flash looks pretty good, being one of the fastest characters in the game, lots of Turn Meter Down on the enemy team. He probably won't hit hard and could be a bit squishy but he has a passive that can heal himself and gain Intelligence Ups....

...but wait he can't do that himself.... [Edit: or maybe he can as others have pointed out below] Update: confirmed, that he can self-activate his 4th skill but it still can be really useful if a teammate does it too.

...he needs a teammate to gain "Turn Meter Up" before his 4th skill activates.

Turns out there are not that many characters out of the massive roster that have an active Turn Meter Up skill. [Passive gains probably won't work.]

See the list below. Who looks to be the best allies for Black Flash ???

Another thing to keep in mind is that these are the same characters that Jay Garrick will counter with his "Speed Steal," making Jay an indirect counter to Black Flash while also having an affinity advantage.

Thanks to DC Legends Toolkit, I was able to make this list (Did I miss anyone?)

  • Arkkis (only if less than 50% health)

  • Lex: SSS (from legendary skill 2, NOT team leader skill)

  • Azrael

  • Martian Manhunter

  • Wonder Girl

  • Batwoman

  • Big Barda

  • Deadshot: HG (% chance on 2, maybe on gated basic too)

  • Huntress

  • Owlman

  • Red Robin

  • Black Adam (% chance)

  • Cheetah

  • Hippolyta

  • Sinestro: White Lantern

  • Wonder Woman: Princess

  • Flash: Fastest Man Alive (% chance on 3)

  • Green Lantern: Hal Jordan

  • Larfleeze

  • Power Girl

  • Steppenwolf

  • Wally West

  • Batman: WGD (% chance on 2, guranteed on 3 if legendary)

  • Catwoman

  • Hush (legendary 3 if target is killed)

  • Joker: Crown Prince

  • Killer Croc (gated by bleeds)

  • Man-Bat

  • Robin (on 2 if invisible)

  • STRIPE

  • Scarecrow

  • Aquaman

  • Mary Shazam

  • Ra's Al Ghul

  • Solomon Grundy

  • Zod (% chance on 2)

  • Batman: CC (on basic, if invisible)

  • Ares

  • Spectre

  • Wonder Woman: Champion (% chance on 3)

  • Cyborg

  • Doomsday

  • Indigo-1

  • Supergirl

  • Deathstroke (gated by kill on 3)

  • Blue Beetle

  • Kid Flash

Posted Dec 30, 2020, 9:55 PM UTC · edited

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MrZubaz:Enchantress:•

That's nearly a third of the roster.

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FreedomFromUOP•

Right, meaning 2/3rds of the roster won't help Black Flash with that passive skill.

I thought it would be more common but it turns out lots of the Turn Meter Up skills are passives.

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MrZubaz:Enchantress:•

1/3 of the roster is a lot compared to other similar skills.

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FreedomFromUOP•

Sure, there are rarer skills.

Good look building a team around Enrage with Sinestro: Yellow Lantern.

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MrZubaz:Enchantress:•

There's some decent enrage teams out there, but yes, much harder to do. Atrocitus + Guy + Grundy + a fourth (someone like WG can benefit) can be really good!

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fire_wingsLegendary Star Sapphire•

All probably means Black Flash included. So his 2 and 3 will proc his passive too. His best ally is himself.

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FreedomFromUOP•

If that's true, he's looking like S-tier material.

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GigawamaPower Girl: Last Daughter of Earth 2•

What about Wonder Girl’s 2nd?

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FreedomFromUOP•

Good catch. I'll add it.

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guido0000•

I think it can proc from his second move that grants actively turn meter up to all allies (75% of the time). If that is the case he himself is his best synergy.

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FreedomFromUOP•

I hope that's the case. Otherwise, it's a pretty big gap in his kit.

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Yttria_Molnir•

Might want to memtion ssslex tm up from 2nd is what will proc not his leader.

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FreedomFromUOP•

Updated.

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ChronoMonkeyXLegendary Swamp Thing•

I wonder how many of those will work, a lot are reactive and may not trigger- for example, DSHG's basic. It isn't part of the basic, it is something that can happen.

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princekarthu•

Azrael his 2 move legendary increase in TM if he has true site...

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princekarthu•

Also his passive trigger his 2nd move but not sure if that counts. Technically it's not passive.

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FreedomFromUOP•

I'll add him to the list.

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Toph2814•

great summary u/FreedomFromU, definitely interesting to see who are candidates.

perhaps it would be a much better quick reference if they:

  1. can be grouped by affinity &
  2. specify which skill has the turn up (as you've already done on some folks like Zod & WWChamp).

example:
Physical / red (skill):

  • Azrael (2*)
  • Batman WGD (2% + L3*)
  • Big Barda (2)
  • Owlman (2)

Energy / green (skill):

  • Flash (L3%)
  • General Zod (2%)
  • Supergirl (2)
  • Wally West (2)

Mystical / blue (skill):

  • Aquaman KoA (L1*)
  • Black Flash (2% + 3)
  • Cheetah (L1% + L3)
  • Wonder Girl (2)

# = character's skill number
L# = character's legendary skill number
* = conditional, must meet/have specific condition/buff to trigger turn meter up
% = chance to trigger, not guaranteed

Hahah... it's a lot of work so don't mind me... just wishful thinking. :D

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Lex_Arenas10Legendary Lex Luthor SSS•

Medphyll could be one too right?

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FreedomFromUOP•

I don't think so. His Turn Meter Up comes from a leadership skill. As a "passive" skill, usually it won't won't activate another passive skill....but you can try it out and see what happens.

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Lex_Arenas10Legendary Lex Luthor SSS•

Mmm yeah, you’re right

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jajalo24Hal Jordan•

How about Hawkgirl, when someone stunned she gets turn meter up

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It's a passive move. Usually passives don't trigger passives

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