How to fix the perception that there is “nothing to do” in Destiny.

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Ask yourself these questions.

Do you use pretty much the same 5-6 weapons? Do you steer away from certain exotics for whatever reason? Do you insist on using meta only? Are you only chasing god rolls? Are you only farming materials? Are you forcing yourself to complete all bounties/pinnacle/powerfuls on 3 characters every day/week just to push that power level up because you intend on chasing god rolls and farming materials?

Congratulations! You’ve successfully limited yoursel. Now don’t get me wrong, using meta, god rolls, exotics with great utility, and all of that make perfect sense. You want to be powerful right?

However, this gets stale. You basically run the same gear and use the same strats when doing these activities. The game is already unfortunately devoid of a variety, not so much in terms of activities, but lacking variety in those activities themselves. Forcing yourself through bounties while playing this way just compounds the issue.

Here’s my suggestion. Use Destiny item manager’s load out optimizer. Pick an absurd exotic you would never even think about using, and create a new build around it. Choose weapons that you normally would not use. Mix your play style up. I started doing this when BL dropped and it’s been a blast. I have 5 different sets that I rotate to keep my play style fresh.

The game also gets a bit more difficult. When you use these OP weapon and meta builds, it’s fun as hell tearing through enemies and feeling unstoppable. But if you end up thinking that everything is too easy just realize that this is what contributes to it. There are exotics and weapons that are “closer to the middle” in terms of combat effectiveness, but not anywhere close to OP, and using them should not be looked at as a disadvantage. Consider just for a second that meta weapons are OP. The damage lament does is fucking dumb high. It’s fun melting bosses, yes. But you just played a 10 minute strike to melt the boss and basically skip an encounter to do what? Play it again to skip it again? Everyone’s running through this content using OP shit and then complaining there’s nothing to do and shit is too easy.

Those “mediocre” weapons and exotics should actually be viewed as being closer to a “balance” of our power vs our enemies.

I don’t know about you, but I farm, I chase, I use meta. But all I’m saying is I also just enjoy playing the game. I’ll run these strikes all day and they don’t get stale cause I switch my builds up and just enjoy the gameplay. No other FPS does what Destiny does as well as it does when it comes to combat. So I think its partly our fault as players for not even using half the shit in the game. We’re mad at sunsetting but don’t even use half the things that aren’t being sunset.

This post is purely meant to give a different perspective on “what is there to do”. If you enjoy the gameplay, then just experiment and run whatever the hell you want. I think you’ll find it more enjoyable.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

Posted Jan 14, 2021, 9:30 AM UTC

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headgehog55•

None of this is actually giving people something to do. It's just adding a challenge to the game, which is no different then just telling someone to chase a god roll of a random weapon.

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ESGD13OP•

Encouraging someone to switch up their builds and use different weapons is actually something to do. Maybe I should have been more specific. I don’t mean just equip random shit and go at it. But look at an exotic armors perk then create a build that has synergy with it, while avoiding the meta/op weapons. That takes time and is something to do in itself, and, adding challenge to the game is also valid. Case in point would be people calling for “match game” on the DSC to increase the difficulty cause it’s too easy. You could go in there now with non meta/non cheese gear and see how it makes a difference.

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headgehog55•

Yes, that can/will extend the game and give a player a purpose but that is no different then having a player grind for a god roll of a crap weapon. So it is nothing worthwhile to do, which is what people are complaining about and this will not fix it.

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ESGD13OP•

It’s a little different in that it shifts the players experience in combat, and might also introduce them to weapons/archetypes they’d never use. I wouldn’t say experimenting isn’t worthwhile, but I also never said this would solve the lack of content. It’s just “something to do” that isn’t grind oriented and is more of a creative thing you can do as a player. “extending the game” is a good way to put it because we have things to do... they’re just the same things we’ve been doing. I thought this was just a way to freshen things up for the players who want to keep playing but aren’t sure how to change things up and make it feel different.

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JakeSteeleIIIJust the tip•

Well, in my case there WOULD be stuff to do if all the triumphs weren’t broken on old paid locations, but since they are, the only thing I can do is run the raid 3 times for EoT then go play another game, which is fine to me.

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ESGD13OP•

Right, and that’s really unfortunate. The bugs introduced in BL really put a hindrance on people chasing certain things and it sucks. But that’s kinda what I’m getting at in my post. Once you got your triumphs, then what? You’re done playing? I play all the activities for the hell of them, using different builds, and even though I’ve seen this shit a ton of times as a D1 vet, I’m still entertained and enjoy just playing the game. Any rewards I get are just icing on the cake, which is the gameplay. I do wish there was more variety and I hope they continue to provide eventually, but I’ve found using different weapon/armor/exotic combos to be a great way to make things feel “fresh” because you have to switch your strats up and you can’t cheese through everything with OP weapons.

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Count_Gator•

I agree. I also switch it up with exotics and old weapons in open world pve activities. Hell, I run okd adept nightmare hunts just to help the low level players complete them.

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ESGD13OP•

If you’re a chaser like me you’ve probably got a ton stored up for diverse building. Currently running a travelers chosen/adored/commemoration (with mag overfill perk and rampage) and hunter sidearm buff exotic and its really fun.

I like that you mention helping other players cause I do the same thing. I remember loading into a strike with two level 5s who followed my every move. I lead them around and just killed enough to prevent death or watching it happen and reviving. It gave me perspective on just how powerful/capable my guardian is and holding back to let the newbies do their thing and supporting them felt really good.

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XxspsureshotxX•

This might work well if you like playing pvp or gambit but for most players the activities themselves are the boring part regardless of doing them with a new loadout since there is no incentive to actually play the activity it’s self. The only thing I can think of to do when I’m bored and burnt out is grinding triumphs but even that gets stale after a while.

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ESGD13OP•

I main PVE but I get what you mean. It’s easier to curtail builds to those game modes because the PVE world has much more variety. But that’s okay! Cause again, it’s about variety and experimenting, not min/maxing and switching to specific gear for encounters, cause that goes against the point I’m making.

It’s interesting you say the encounters are boring to some. I guess I don’t feel the same. They need to add more but I don’t mind because I just enjoy the gameplay and switching things up adds variety and difficulty in its own way.

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Making a random build isn’t a substitute for content

Your still doing the same content Just slightly differently

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ESGD13OP•

This is not a substitute for content and I did not imply it was. This is for those who love to play the game regardless, but want something to do besides chase and grind, and have the gameplay feel different.

You can run an activity with witherhoard, ikelos smg, guillotine, stompees and warmind cells mods 1000 times and you’ll probably play the exact same way every time because those weapons and exotics sort of lean you towards a certain play style.

Try switching up to non meta and use some exotic you normally wouldn’t use and watch how differently you have to approach things. It gives it a different feel.

I had a guy I met randomly in a strike try this, and his new build had almost the exact same stats on armor as his old ones, high mobility/recov and he was using bombardiers as his exotic. He used a wish ended bow which he admitted to not using bows much, a decent roll hallow words fusion, and a god roll interference. Do you know how many times he died trying to bomb ads? It was fucking hilarious. He was frustrated at first because he didn’t want to just bow peek the whole time, and wanted to get up close to utilize his bombs and fusion. It was about the 3rd strike with it that things started to click and he was really enjoying the difference that it made. That moment inspired this post for all those who feel things are stale.

It’s not a substitute for new content, it’s just something you can do.

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You kind of did imply by the “fix the perception that there’s nothing to do” title

Because the “there’s nothing to do” doesn’t come from using a loadout repeatedly

It’s about a lack of content

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ESGD13OP•

I can see that coming across that way. I could have worded it better. I suppose the simple way of saying it is that my changing of load outs has given new life into the current content. I don’t feel a lack of content cause I still enjoy playing strikes/dungeons/overworks/lost sectors/lure and empire hunts because I don’t play them the same way every time. It’s no substitute for actual new content, but as a person who feels what you do (lack of new content), and yet still wants to play because I love the gun play and combat... exploring and experimenting with more builds has “given me something to do”. Just suggesting some other people try it out and see if it does it for them too.

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suggmabawl•

I do the same thing. I used Slug shotguns as they were meta till I got bored, now in most activities outside of the raid/nightfalls I use the cloudstrike and have so much fun!

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ESGD13OP•

Same! I used heritage for about two weeks straight and was loving it but it became stale to run up, two pump a yellow health and be done with it. Same with swords. Cloudstrike is really fun. Seeing that lightning come down is so satisfying.

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okxcysome people call me the space cowboy•

I don’t really bother creating a build, but I regularly use DIM’s randomizer to pick my weapons

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N1miol•

More loot everywhere and the end of the world loot pool.

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ESGD13OP•

I see people ask for this but do you really want more loot? Are you even using half the loot you have now? When people ask for more loot, what they really want is a new meta weapon to pop up. The rest will just be vaulted or sharded.

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stephanl33t•

Have you ever gotten a gaggle of friends to all use the Aeon set? It's good. Really good.

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