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Taking 2C-E with some friends tomorrow. Advice?

This will be my second trip, and the first time for my friends. My first trip was on 4-aco-dmt at a rave, and it was a disaster until I was able to calm down. (Disaster as in, running up to security guards and telling them I was about to die.)

We're going to do it in my friend's room with a sitter, and potentially go outside as well. There will be weed on hand in case we get anxious, as I did last time. Any advice to make this a good experience?

Posted Oct 12, 2011, 8:58 AM UTC

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Watch your dose, if you are unsure even taking 10mgs instead of say 15mgs would be a good idea. I took 30mgs with friends and without a sitter my first time and we all experienced some freakouts and confusion for an hour or so, although it was definitely one of the most visual trips I've had so far. I'd say take 10mgs, chillout with your sitter and enjoy. Then you can see how you feel and if you want to delve a bit deeper on a later date.

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Borax•

This is good advice, 2C-E is good fun right down to 6mg, you won't be disappointed if you aim low, as it's very visual at such doses, just without so much headfuck

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Borax•

Read the 2C-E ama we wrote to answer questions like yours. http://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/jvc7n/rdrugs_ama_series_2ce/

Relax, and know your dose.

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rkiecaboose•

Depending if you snort it or eat it will alter that REALLY weird come up on 2C-E. Expect to feel VERY uncomfortable at times. Weed helps ALOT with this, so does going outside and walking for a bit. If you're prone to GI irritation, prepare for the shits for the 1-2hr come up if you eat it. Sometimes vomiting occurs, just let it out, You'll feel alot better. Snorting it, though you NEED an accurate microgram scale, bypasses the weird and uncomfortable come up (at least in my experience). It will also shorten the come up to about 15-30 mins.

Now with all the bad stuff and prep aside. Prepare for the MOST FUN and COLORFUL experience you've ever had! 2C-E is far more colorful than LSD (though less geometric patterns and all that) I find that makes colors appear more vibrant and enjoyable. I'd say you wouldn't really need a sitter since you can still be very functional on 2C-E just very colorful. Do not confine yourself to one room, this will aggravate your discomfort. If you're uncomfortable/restless, GO OUTSIDE. Music is also a must, this can alter the mood drastically. Hope that helps

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nowarning1962•

Snorting 2C-E was one of the worst experiences I've ever had with any drug. And even if you don't snort it, you need a good mg scale. With 2C-E taking 15mg can be WAY different than if you took 20mg. This was my first mistake when I started taking 2C-E. I took 15mg and just based that dose as "one hit." So my next dose I wanted to take "three hits," which was 45mg. That shit rocked my fucking world.

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rkiecaboose•

I don't think you were suppose to snort THAT much. With 2C-E, if you snort, cut the oral dose in half. Generally the consensus I've seen is 12mg is a good beginner dose orally. So you really should have gone lower, which explains why it would have been THE worst experience ever. I can only imagine how uncomfortable that body load must have been. Sorry to hear. Yeah those dose/response curve is pretty steep. Just generally be careful when playing with RCs. When you start playing with RCs you should always invest in a good microscale before going down that road.

Dose Citation: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2ce/2ce_dose.shtml

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CharAznable•

With 2C-E, if you snort, cut the oral dose by two thirds.

Seriously.

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ipmatic•

Fuck. The first time I took 2C-E, I ate 30mg and snorted 15. I was wondering why I kept vomiting. Do you think not snorting will help me avoid that next time I do it? (which will be in 2 weeks)

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rkiecaboose•

Yeah that sounds crazy, and almost deadly. In my personal experience, snorting reduces the nausea. SO just stick with snorting 15mg and leave it at that. I don't know if bump dosing does anything for 2C-E. You'd probably have to look that up.

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nowarning1962•

How many milligrams are you taking? 2C-E can be a very potent drug to some people. For me it takes a good 30mg to get me to a good high. But a friend of mine was tripping on 10mg. If I were you, I would try to take 15-20 milligrams. 4-aco-dmt is more of a mind fuck than 2c-e. On the 2c-x compounds I feel more clear headed than most other drugs I take. So you probably wont be freaking out about dying. You may feel nauseous during the come up. Don't snort it. Snorting fucking HURTS like none other. It feels like a million needles jabbing everywhere in your nose.

The visuals can get pretty intense depending on the dose you take. Since this is only your second trip, be prepared for some good altered visions. Just try to keep cool. Just remember, no matter what happens, you're only on drugs and it will be over in a few hours. Unless you're taking well over 100 milligrams you wont over dose and you wont die. Just chill and enjoy the ride.

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15mg-20mg is a heavy first dose, you shouldn't start with more than 10mg-12mg. If you require 30mg of 2C-E to trip, I question the purity of your source.

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nowarning1962•

Nah, with most drugs I usually have to take a heavier dose than most. Like I said before, I would have to take a good 25-30mg to get a good trip but my friend would only take 5-10mg from the same batch and he would have a good trip. Drugs just react differently to each person. If I took 15mg it was a very mild trip.

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Same here. It's tough with RC's to have a high tolerance, kind of frustrating.

I try to be responsible and build up...5, then 10, then 15mg of 2C-I, and even at 15 I wasn't sure if I was imagining the visuals. Someone else took 10 and was tripping hard. Oh well. Interesting that I require large amounts of hallucinogens, but I'm a lightweight when it comes to alcohol.

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nowarning1962•

Lol I know! One of my friends too 8mg of 2C-E and we had to calm him down. He wasn't a very experienced tripper but I thought for sure he wasn't even going to feel 8mg. But apparently he was having some nice visuals and everything. People always think I'm crazy for the doses that I take of RCs. Not only do I like to trip pretty hard but they don't really understand that I don't feel the lower doses that they feel.

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dankstahz•

Glad to know I'm not the only one! On 35mg of 2C-T-7 I had hardly any effect but I'd just rather not take it any further than that because it's not really worth it. I don't really have much effects from quality 2C-E under 30mg either, but I feel buzzy after a beer.

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25everything•

Buy some eyedrops. My pupils usually hurt after 8h+ of tripping.

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Borax•

This has never happened to me. If it is from light exposure, wear sunglasses.

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25everything•

I think it's part the light and part exhaustion. My eyes are usually wide open and the pupils are very dilated.

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Borax•

You should always wear sunglasses when tripping in daylight. You pupils are less able to react to light, meaning they let more in than they should. UV light is not good for your eyes and this extra exposure certainly won't ber. Artificial lighting poses no threat apart from fatigue.

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25everything•

But the colors, they are so beautifull!

I do wear sunnglasses in the sommer times with very bright light when I'm out in the open.

And sadly you can not always wear sunnglasses at night.

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Gohoyo•

Always remember to drink some water during the trip! Avoid the massive headache at the end -_-

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