Royal Rumble 2021 and the "Age" myth: A Comparison of WWE Tenures
There has been a decent number of debate lately about the average age of the recent men's rumble match on account of it skewing to be the oldest in history, with the winner being the 2nd oldest in history right behind Vince McMahon. Now, the majority of fans are very happy with the win. 47 or no, Edge is still beloved, and can still put on a good match and have a good feud, so why should his age matter? Many feel insulted that people are putting down the Rumble competitors because of their age, and not judging them based on their talents.
The counter-argument then is that when most complain about "Old" stars, they aren't so much talking about the literal age of an individual, or rather, that shouldn't be the actual focus. Rather, the idea of "New Stars" and "Old Stars" is related to the time since they were established as a star, not the actual time since they were born. It's an argument of Staleness vs Freshness as opposed to Youth vs Age. And for that reason, looking at the age of the roster is missing the forest for the trees. Sure, a guy like Keith Lee is older than the current world champion, but in terms of time the TV Audience have known Keith Lee, he's a considerably newer face. As far as the tv audience is considered, Keith Lee might as well be in his 20s.
So ignoring the argument of Age, is the argument that the current roster is more stale and has hung about longer valid? Looking at the time since they were first established as a regular character on Main Roster WWE tv, does that number also skew upwards in this rumble compared to, for instance, Edge's first rumble win?
The short answer is yes, but let's do the math anyway.
For the purposes of this, I'm counting the date of someone's official debut, meaning I'm not counting Jeff Hardy or Edge's time as uncontracted enhancement talent, or Kane's time as Isaac Yankem, or Ziggler's time as Nicky in the Spirit Squad or Kerwin White's Caddy. I'm starting from the point we as an audience were introduced to these characters as we know them, and since they officially became a regular recurring character on tv, because that is what matters in the context of this conversation of fan perception. So, starting with the 2010 Rumble:
| Entrant | Date of Official Debut | Days Since Debut |
|---|---|---|
| Dolph Ziggler | 15/9/2008 | 503 |
| Evan Bourne | 3/6/2008 | 607 |
| CM Punk | 24/6/2006 | 1317 |
| JTG | 16/10/2006 | 1203 |
| Great Khali | 7/4/2006 | 1395 |
| Beth Phoenix | 8/5/2006 | 1364 |
| Zack Ryder | 11/6/2007 | 965 |
| Triple H | 30/4/1995 | 5390 |
| Drew McIntyre | 28/08/2009 | 156 |
| Ted Dibiase | 26/05/2008 | 615 |
| John Morrison | 1/3/2004 | 2162 |
| Kane | 5/10/1997 | 4501 |
| Cody Rhodes | 2/7/2007 | 944 |
| MVP | 4/8/2006 | 1276 |
| Carlito | 7/10/2004 | 1942 |
| The Miz | 21/4/2006 | 1381 |
| Matt Hardy | 27/9/1998 | 4144 |
| Shawn Michaels | 7/7/1988 | 7878 |
| John Cena | 27/6/2002 | 2775 |
| Shelton Benjamin | 26/12/2002 | 2593 |
| Yoshi Tatsu | 30/6/2009 | 215 |
| Big Show | 14/2/1999 | 4004 |
| Mark Henry | 11/3/1996 | 5074 |
| Chris Masters | 21/2/2005 | 1805 |
| R-Truth | 29/8/2008 | 520 |
| Jack Swagger | 9/9/2008 | 509 |
| Kofi Kingston | 22/1/2008 | 740 |
| Chris Jericho | 9/8/1999 | 3828 |
| Edge | 22/6/1998 | 4241 |
| Batista | 4/11/2002 | 2645 |
That comes to a combined number of 66,692 days since the cumulative debuts of these characters, or simplified to 182.7 years. This leads to an average of 2,223 days, or 6.09 years for the competitors.
Now for the 2021 Rumble:
| Entrant | Date of Official Debut | Days Since Debut |
|---|---|---|
| Edge | 22/6/1998 | 8259 |
| Randy Orton | 25/4/2002 | 6856 |
| Sami Zayn | 4/5/2015 | 2099 |
| Mustafa Ali | 23/1/2017 | 1469 |
| Jeff Hardy | 27/9/1998 | 8162 |
| Dolph Ziggler | 15/9/2008 | 4521 |
| Shinsuke Nakamura | 4/4/2017 | 1398 |
| Carlito | 7/10/2004 | 5960 |
| Xavier Woods | 18/11/2013 | 2631 |
| Big E | 17/12/2012 | 2967 |
| John Morrison | 1/3/2004 | 6180 |
| Ricochet | 18/2/2019 | 713 |
| Elias | 10/4/2017 | 1392 |
| Damian Priest | 31/1/2021 | 0 |
| The Miz | 21/4/2006 | 5399 |
| Riddle | 29/6/2020 | 216 |
| Daniel Bryan | 15/8/2010 | 3822 |
| Kane | 5/10/1997 | 8519 |
| King Corbin | 3/4/2016 | 1764 |
| Otis | 14/1/2019 | 748 |
| Dominik Mysterio | 3/8/2020 | 181 |
| Bobby Lashley | 23/9/2005 | 5609 |
| Hurricane Helms | 5/7/2001 | 7150 |
| Christian | 27/9/1998 | 8162 |
| AJ Styles | 24/1/2016 | 1834 |
| Rey Mysterio | 25/7/2002 | 6765 |
| Sheamus | 30/6/2009 | 4233 |
| Cesaro | 20/4/2012 | 3208 |
| Seth Rollins | 18/11/2012 | 2996 |
| Braun Strowman | 24/8/2015 | 1987 |
That comes to a combined number of 115,200 days since the cumulative debuts of these characters, or simplified to 315 years. This leads s to an average of 3,840 days, or 10.5 years for the competitors.
So it's pretty clear that the current prominent guys hit the scene a much further ago than the average competitor of yesteryear. I would argue that this statistical stagnation is more the cause of some viewer fatigue, rather than the much more superficial "Edge is in his 40s" that is more hotly debated online.
Another bonus point of trivia to leave you out on:
7 men from the 2010 Rumble also appeared in this years. In comparison, 4 men from the 1999 Rumble competed in the 2010 Rumble. 2 of those men (Kane and Edge) have competed in all three.
Addendum: I strongly debated with myself on two points of debut; whether to count R-Truth's time as K-Kwik, since while it is a different gimmick name and not very prominent a run, it was still recurring enough to be notable, and the gimmick similar enough to what R-Truth started as, and whether to count Dominik Mysterio's time as an recurring on-screen character where he was only a cornerman for his father and not a wrestler himself. I decided against both in each case, going from Killing's debut as Truth and Dominik throwing his hat in the ring as an official wrestler. If you think I was wrong in both cases, then count R-Truth as 3366 days, and Dominik as 684 days.
Posted Feb 2, 2021, 6:20 PM UTC
Great post! The fact is that the real young talent in their early 20's are more likely to go to NXT, not "main roster." People like Dominik and Austin Theory are rarities nowadays, and Theory went back to NXT. Taker's best work was in his 40's and people like Edge and Jericho have showed they can still go.
NXT is another big reason why the main roster age skews upwards on average, yeah. It's another reason why I feel they're getting wires crossed in what exactly bothers them with the current product. Yeah, they'll call Edge old, but the "Young" guys fans have been clamoring for are also older than average, Keith Lee being 36. The age of the guys they want to see on top has also skewed upwards, so it's clearly not really an issue of age, but exposure.
People look at Edge, Sheamus, Miz, whoever and think "Wow, these guys are a lot older than they used to be" when in reality their age is just a symptom of the "illness" if you want to call it that. Their actual concerns seem to be "Wow, these guys had their time in the sun so long ago" which can be true of anyone of any age.
The average tenure of the WWE star is almost twice as long as it was since 2010, which is great for the wrestlers themselves, but it makes a lot of sense than some fans would feel burned out or that things have grown stagnant when the same prominent names are featured for so long compared to times when they remember the roster having a much greater degree of turnover. It seems a lot of people see this, but miss the forest for the trees and result in saying "Anyone over 40 gets their head chopped off" to quote an old Paul Heyman booking plan.