Observations on women's OLD profiles from a 40 something guy

*EDIT* This is in no way meant to bash women, I'm just trying to be helpful. I realize that some of these might apply to men but I don't look at men's profiles so I wouldn't know. Feel free to start a similar post, maybe some of us appreciate constructive criticism and could use a pointer or two.

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If this is not at all helpful then feel free to tell me to go eff myself and nuke this but sometimes while browsing through OLD sites/apps I just think to myself, some of these people just need a little OLD guidance. I don't claim to be a guru, obviously I don't have dating figured out since I'm here but I just wanted to offer up some opinion/advice. Maybe this can be a work in progress and I can edit based on suggestions or critique but I think as far as women looking to match with a halfway decent guy some of this info might be useful.

  1. Please write something in your bio and put some thought into it. Writing something just to write something (Like "had to write something" or "hate talking about myself") shows that you're probably not willing to put thought or effort into a relationship. Writing something about yourself also gives a match something to open up with and if they do reference what you wrote it will show you that they took the time to read what you wrote and put in the effort to craft a message written specifically for you and not some generic intro they send to every woman.
  2. Please stop saying your friends made you join a dating site/app. It makes you come across as easily influenced and unable to think for yourself. You're on a dating site, big deal, they're not taboo anymore and especially in COVID times, this is how you meet people for dating purposes, own up to it, embrace it.
  3. Please stop using filters. They are disingenuous. Guys want to know what you actually look like. To me at least, attraction comes down to much more than just physical looks so if you don't like how you look in photos or don't like that you no longer look 25, that's totally fine. We're our own worst critics. Somewhere out there is someone who thinks you're the most beautiful girl they've ever seen and if you use a filter they will never see the true you. I personally swipe left on profiles that use filters unless it's just maybe one photo with a filter I'll overlook but as a guy, there are some women out there who only use photos with filters and yes, we can tell it's a filter.
  4. Please stop lying about your age. Be honest about it. Most of you put so much information in your profile (school, employer, town you live in) that it's pretty easy to find you on the internet and verify your age. It's also easy for us to tell that your age is off and that quick internet search confirms suspicion and you instantly lose credibility. There's nothing worse than starting off a relationship with a lie. If you need validation from younger matches to boost your ego, use your real age anyway, there is always going to be an endless supply of young dudes out there with cougar fantasies to give you attention no matter what your age.
  5. Please stop posting half nudes and cleavage shots if you're going to say something in your profile like "tired of players, looking for someone genuine". Guess what, those genuine guys just swiped left on your profile because you come across as insecure. Leave something to the imagination maybe? I know that personally, cleavage shots and mirror selfies in your bra and panties is an automatic left swipe, I don't care what it says in your profile or how amazing you seem based on what you wrote, talk is cheap. I've learned my lesson and found out the hard way that anyone who needs to sell themselves with cleavage shots either doesn't have much going on for themselves personality wise or intellectually or isn't confident enough as a person to think they can attract someone with their personality and looks without showing off their cleavage. I promise you're most likely not going to attract a "good guy" with photos like this. All you're going to attract are the player types who think you're easy and are going to say or do whatever it takes to get you in bed. Be confident in who you are, I promise there's someone out there who is looking for YOU as you are. If you're just looking for a hook up or casual or FWB or whatever might warrant risque photos then by all means, you do you.
  6. Have photos other than selfies. Seriously, there are so many women out there with a profile full of nothing but selfies. Have a few photos of you that maybe someone else took. Maybe a photo of you from an event? I know it's tough with COVID but show us that you have friends or family or anyone in your life or that you do something other than sitting home taking selfies in your mirror. The mirror selfies in 5 different outfits that all look like they were taken right after each other are strange.
  7. Stop with the head tilts, the duck lips, the crossed legs. These oddities are not doing anything in your favor, I promise. Just be you, that is the best way you're going to meet someone who genuinely wants to get to know you. Don't hide anything or try to hide anything or look like you're hiding anything, it scares guys away when they probably wouldn't have been scared away before. The head tilt thing is just plain weird. I think to myself does she need a chiropractor? Why is her head tilted 45 degrees in ever photo? Maybe someone could recommend a better pillow for her to sleep on? ***EDIT*** as for the "crossed legs" I do not mean women sitting down with crossed legs, that's completely normal, what I'm talking about is women who stand and cross their legs to make their hips/thighs/butt seem thinner. There are some guys out there who love love love women with big thighs/hips/butt, why try to hide it??
  8. Just say NO to bathroom selfies. This is horrible, selfies in a public bathroom. I absolutely cringe when I see a public bathroom selfie with some poor woman in the background, an innocent victim trying to compose herself after using the facilities and now stuck on some weirdo's OLD profile for all to see. This is a huge red flag and shows poor decision making. I'm sure you'll look just as good to take a mirror selfie when you get home because I promise you're getting at least a few guys to swipe left based on that one public restroom photo alone.

I really hope this doesn't come across the wrong way, I'm definitely not trying to be mean or hurtful, merely trying to show a guy's perspective in the online dating realm.

Thanks for taking the time to read this and I wish you all the best of luck.

Posted Feb 2, 2021, 10:41 PM UTC Ā· edited Ā· locked

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junebug2100•

I think some of these can be said for a mans profile too.

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Men are lowering their ages so they're not filtered out in searches by younger women. Some will say their actual age in the bio and say something like I don't look my age or I work out šŸ™„

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seche314•

ā€œI accidentally put my age as 8 years youngerā€ šŸ˜’

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seche314•

Literally all of them. It’s very odd how many men are using filters at this age, including those awful snapchat dog filters

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fatsocalsd•

Wow there are a lot of men who use filters? I am really surprised. TIL..... I just did not think dudes would do that.

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seche314•

Omg yes. Tons of them. And they also use apps to retouch their photos, usually poorly. Blurring way too hard on wrinkles and it’s super obvious 🤣

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fatsocalsd•

That is my biggest complaint with OLD. Soooo many filters in pics. I had no idea that ladies were dealing with this.

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balls_ache_bc_of_u•

Unbelievable.

I suppose it’s not unheard of but the prevalence of men who do this must be < 2% or something like that.

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Spiritual-Educator-7•

My favorite is when they whiten their teeth so obviously it looks ridiculous.

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kereolay•

Yep. I've seen all of the above!

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thinkBOXthinkOP•

This is not meant to be sexist, I don't look at men's profiles so I wouldn't know.....

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Prisoner-of-Paradise♀50+ šŸ’ŽšŸ‘ DM me yer beard!•

#5 just has me laughing, women really can't win. Showing any body, happen to have cleavage? Better cover it all up or you deserve to be treated like an insecure slut who just wants a fuck boy! It's 2021 and here we still are.

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Yeah, that one seems over the top to me

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blubirdTN•

As a big boobed gal it is habit to cover them up because of the attention they do cause if I show just the tiniest amount of cleavage. That is freaking sad honestly that you can’t show boob because of some mens delicate natures when it comes to sex. Their myopic view of they are the ones who should judge us based on our boob exposure. Damned if we do and damned if we don’t all because it can make the penis go wonky.

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Gagirl460450/F•

I’m pretty sure I know what he’s talking about here, and I’m a woman. There’s cleavage and then there’s CLEAVAGE. I had a little cleavage in my profile but most pics without and the one I did have tended toward more appropriate rather than less. As for inappropriate, I guess you know it when you see it. And I’m sure that line is a little different for everyone.

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indigo_tortuga•

I’m an H cup. All my cleavage is CLEAVAGE. It says zero about me except I like my cleavage lol

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blubirdTN•

Same I’m an H girl on a smaller frame to boot. Tired of people telling us what to do with our boobs. I can’t hide them or flatten them. They aren’t going away because they offend you.

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thinkBOXthinkOP•

okay, your opinion, there are plenty of seemingly stacked women on OLD who get by just fine without throwing their goods out there......my preference but just who I prefer to swipe on.

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"Throwing their goods out there." Can you even hear yourself? That's disgusting, not cleavage.

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seche314•

He’s doing everyone a favor with that left swipe.

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Prisoner-of-Paradise♀50+ šŸ’ŽšŸ‘ DM me yer beard!•

No kidding.

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thinkBOXthinkOP•

Got it, thanks for the input......

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MySocialAlthitting my prime next year!•

My daughter was an early bloomer and is short and super curvy, just like her mom. One day in middle school, she was sent home for an unspecified dress code violation (unspecified because everything she was wearing was well within the published standards). As fate would have it, there was another, slimmer girl wearing the EXACT SAME outfit as she was -- black capris and a yellow crewneck sweater -- who was deemed perfectly appropriate.

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zihuatcat46/F•

I'm just curious if all the women jumping down your throat would swipe right on a shirtless guy. If not, they're being a bit hypocritical.

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Shirtless because he's swimming or doing something else would be fine with me. Shirtless because he's posing and preening would not be attractive to me -- but the difference is that I wouldn't think that he deserved to be played and discarded because of it.

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zihuatcat46/F•

but the difference is that I wouldn't think that he deserved to be played and discarded because of it.

I don't see where OP said that? He said he would swipe left on women with too much cleavage or risquƩ photos. Plenty of women bitch and moan about guys in shirtless photos and swipe left, claiming those guys are only looking for sex. What is the difference?

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I see enough women who explicitly state that they automatically swipe left on guys with shirtless photos, I guess they're just insensitive, sexist assholes. Those are actually the women I swipe right on so we can be insensitive sexist assholes together, you know what they say, birds of a feather šŸ˜‚

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MySocialAlthitting my prime next year!•

I can have big boobs and still want to be treated like a human being. Shocking, I know.

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seche314•

It’s ok, we can put the girls on display as long as we don’t include the text that we don’t want players on our profiles. THAT is where the line is, you see.

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Prisoner-of-Paradise♀50+ šŸ’ŽšŸ‘ DM me yer beard!•

Right, the horrible hypocrisy of it all, flashing those tits and still hoping for decent treatment!

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MySocialAlthitting my prime next year!•

Or is there some sort of sliding scale? Like, if it's a dress that I'd wear to a business casual office but it still shows a bit of cleavage because some of us are just made that way, does that qualify me for a FWB instead of a pump-and-dump? But if I want a BOYFRIEND, I've got to wear a turtleneck (which, incidentally, makes big boobs look even bigger than a well-fitting V-neck).

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Nobody's saying you can't show what your body looks like in a tasteful way. But let's be honest for a minute here, you know what you're doing if you intentionally put up a suggestive picture with deep cleavage.

If everything else about you looks cool, I might still swipe right but just know that you're gonna attract a lot of fuck boys too. Just be prepared for it.

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thinkBOXthinkOP•

I get it, you're triggered, I'm not bashing women with boobs, I'm talking about straight up leaning over intentional cleavage shots trying to make some dumb ass sexy look with your face. It's dumb, it's juvenile, it's pathetic especially when you're saying that you're tired of players and want a good guy, yeah, I'm sure a "good guy" is going to be all over that, it screams "good judgement", class and taste.

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Well, you certainly know all about judgment.

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Those intention shots where they hold the camera over their head and point down towards their cleavage pushed out while cutting off half of the top of their head. Yep. I’m a woman and I find those cringey.

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Spiritual-Educator-7•

I have never used a filter and I think most of my pictures have minimal makeup even. I'd rather look better in person than worse, that just seems logical.

I'm struggling with the "don't just do all selfies" thing as I'm realizing my ex was terrible about taking pictures of me and most of the pics that I do have that aren't selfies include my daughter and/or are pretty unflattering vacation shots (think Disneyland). Ugh. I know it makes it look like I don't have friends, but I'm a bit stuck.

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Prisoner-of-Paradise♀50+ šŸ’ŽšŸ‘ DM me yer beard!•

You don't need to "struggle" with any of this. This is one man's opinion, and selfies are completely ubiquitous and accepted on dating apps. Anyone who would swipe left because of selfies on a dating app has issues of their own.

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indigo_tortuga•

This! ā˜šŸ¾

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Spiritual-Educator-7•

It's not the first time I've heard this "advice", but thank you. :)

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JohnPettimore•

I second the OP. Selfies telegraph either entitlement or a huge lack of effort. Instant left swipe.

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k0azv56/M•

I would rather see the selfies (sans the filters) than group shots that you can't tell which one of the people in it are the one posting the ad.

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indigo_tortuga•

Holy shit what? šŸ˜‚

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Prisoner-of-Paradise♀50+ šŸ’ŽšŸ‘ DM me yer beard!•

Wow, OK, you do that.

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Thisisamistake187140/F•

I thought the same thing about the selfies. Sometimes I legitimately feel like people are trying to take the worst photo possible. Also, I don’t get what decent guys really want out of photos on a dating profile. I feel like it’s genuine to just put a couple of photos that I feel good in without having to show myself off, but that has never proven to be good enough. Don’t be obvious about showing off your body or cleavage, but make sure somehow you get a non-staged and flattering full body photo, wear makeup but make it look like you aren’t wearing makeup, don’t be too into yourself, be pretty but make it look like you don’t know you’re pretty and while you’re at it get someone else to take all of these perfect photos of you. My god, the photo pressure alone is more than I can handle and I’m pretty comfortable with what I have going on... if I had really intense body insecurities it would be crushing. No thank you.

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seche314•

I think selfies are fine, as long as you don’t take them in the same location or same outfit, and you’re doing a variety of activities.

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RedLion10943/F•

Buy a selfy stick with a tripod. They come with a bloothoot remote shutter and, with a few attempts, you can take pictures that look like they were taken from someone else. It's an excellent way to have a few "non-selfies" that can show your entire body.

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Gagirl460450/F•

Recruit one of the friends you have to take a few full body shots of you so you will have something to use. Even talking Covid into account, this could be a socially distanced get together.

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good_grief77•

For everyone stumped on the limited selfies comment, go to Amazon and buy a cheap camera tripod with a cell phone mount and Bluetooth shudder remote. All the photos on my dating profile look like they were taken by someone in the room with me, but in all honesty I am there by myself. It’s a super cheap and effective solution to the dreaded selfie. (43/m btw)

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I prop my phone up on a bookshelf or a fence, etc, and use the timer :)

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Spiritual-Educator-7•

I bought this ring light for work calls and it comes with a tripod/phone holder/bluetooth remote. Will definitely try this out!

https://www.amazon.com/UBeesize-Ringlight-YouTube-Photography-Compatible/dp/B07GDC39Y2?ref_=ast_sto_dp

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thinkBOXthinkOP•

Wow, that's a great idea, thanks for adding something constructive.......

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good_grief77•

You’re welcome. I’ve taken some great photos and there is no way to tell that I’m the only one present. The quality and curiosity you create in the photo depends on how creative you get. My next goal is to take some cooking photos for my profile. Wish me luck šŸ¤ž

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adjustermiken•

Instant left swipes: Snapchat filters. 20 headshots and no body.
Body pic with camera directly over your head. Blurry pics.
All non-human pics (flowers, dogs, motorcycles... it’s really a thing. I see it everyday). All ā€œgroupā€ pics.
Age ā€œ45ā€ but clearly ā€œ65ā€. Old pics from your glory days. ā€œPartner in crimeā€ ā€œLove to laughā€ Challenge or ā€œI’m superior than youā€ statements like- ā€œyou can make me laughā€, or ā€œyou can hold an intelligent conversation...ā€

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thinkBOXthinkOP•

My favorite is the scanned driver's license photo........

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adjustermiken•

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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toomanygirls99•

I’m amused since so much of this refers to guys to. The selfies with hats, sunglasses, blurry photos. Plenty who say ask me. I even seen filtered pictures. Guys lying constantly about their age saying they are in the 40’s with pictures in their 20’s. Or their height. Own it. The guys with their shirtless gym pictures. I’m over seeing it. The fish pictures, most females aren’t impressed. Most people aren’t seeing friends or family so asking for pictures that showcase that is beyond silly in my eyes. Who cares if it’s all selfies. Most guys just start out with hey beautiful, gorgeous etc no matter what you write. Or they get sexual right off the bat. They don’t read the profile to begin with or just don’t care what’s there. I had one guy match with me first then when he messaged said I have too many cats but let’s hook up.. instant block.

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thinkBOXthinkOP•

This is not meant to be sexist, I don't look at men's profiles so I wouldn't know.....

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toomanygirls99•

No but I do and everything you see is the same crap women have to look at.

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sideefffex•

1,000 times this. I have so much detail in my bios and a range of activities in my photos and all and I get is ā€œHeyā€. Nope. However if you asked what book I was reading I would probably reply in a heartbeat. I always skim profiles and ask questions. It’s not rocket science.

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indigo_tortuga•

Ok hold up. If a ā€œgenuine guyā€ can’t stand my cleavage he can move the hell on. I wear low cut shirts almost exclusively because I love my boobs. They’re awesome and pretty to look at. It says zero about my personality except I love my boobs.

And I will post more than selfies when dudes stop saying rude things about the other people in my pictures.

Honestly most of these reasons sound judgey as hell.

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Uther_Pendragon_thr•

Last year I went on dates with three women who lied about their age, it was very disconcerting when they told me on the actual date.

Such a bad way to start a potential relationship, put me off completely.

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tequilamockingbored52/M - [This space for rent]•

I love the justifications. It's only X years off. Then why not add X years instead of subtracting them?

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arailiara•

I don’t understand why you would lie about your age- just own that.

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ponchoacademy•

Can say this list would work great for men too. Except instead of the cleavage shots, its the shirtless ones. And its not just buff guys, Ive seen more bathroom selfie beer belly pictures than I ever hoped to in my lifetime.

People, as a whole, are baffling!

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Westvic34•

Oh. So you do understand.

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musingsinmidlife•

Given you don't think covid is real (per your other posts), all these preferences kind of become moot points.

Please believe in science...that would be my number one request!

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indigo_tortuga•

Ohhhhh one of those. Makes the post make sense now.

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thinkBOXthinkOP•

LOL I never said I don't believe in COVID. All I said is don't judge someone for wanting to go out with friends for drinks if they are abiding by state laws and CDC recommendations. This is ridiculous and laughable.......

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You said it was my personal opinion that COVID was real and that large groups of people going out with the purpose of meeting groups of strangers of the opposite sex in cities in the USA with high numbers of active COVID cases was a great idea and that I was being a massive Doomer by saying that wasn't a good idea.

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Try believing in science....it will rock your world.

Try looking into facts on COVID. There is no microchip, it isn't about 5G. No need to fear vaccinations. Not about Bill Gates. Not the flu. You tried to tell me she had almost a zero death rate for her age group so if she and 7 of her friends wanted to party with a large group of strangers at a bar in the midst of a pandemic that I was being ridiculous for saying that wasn't safe.

Science...a whole new world for you. I encourage you to explore it.

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a306167a•

Thank you for being honest. When I was OLD, I was always wondering about how men look at it. I can say, writing the bio is excruciating for me but will definitely put more thought into it, when I get back into the fray again.

I’m totally on board with the duck lips, bathroom selfie’s, filters, ... I mean, really, how old are you? Or, what age are you trying to attract? not sure what the leg crossed thing is, but I’ll take your word for it.

The age thing... so, I’m told all the time I don’t look my age. I know it sounds cliche, but people tell me consistently that I look way younger than I am (45F). And I worry that turns some people off or that they think I’m not telling the truth.

As for me, on what I see men do:

  1. Stop putting pictures of your car, boat, motorcycle, etc. or picture of a random beach. It comes across as you will value that object as a priority over me or you’re trying to ā€˜buy’ me with whatever big ticket item you’ve gone in debt over

  2. men don’t smile 90% of the time and look like they’re taking a mug shot. In the bathroom/gym or not, they seem to like to snarl

  3. Hats. Ball caps specifically seem to have an insane amount of revenue from men who OLD. Try to keep the hats to just one pic

  4. only group pics where I have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure out which one is you. If you only have group shots, don’t treat it like where’s Waldo. Tell me in the caption which one it you.

That’s all I can think of right now. Hope this helps!

Good luck in your journey!!

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sideefffex•

For men: No more fucking fish pictures. Seriously. And if you’re wearing hats in all your pics I’m going to assume you’re bald.

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mamadgaflooking for love in all the wrong places•

Omg the fucking fish pics! That an the pics in the car and the shirtless pics in bed. As well as the general inability to use the right to/too or your/you’re.

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thinkBOXthinkOP•

I am completely and utterly offended by this post. Kidding, I am realistic and have a sense of humor.......I'm glad you could appreciate it and contributed what you see on the opposite side of the dating spectrum. I'm happy to say that my profile does not make your hit list! Happy swiping!

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s3rndpt•

I don't disagree with any of what you said, but as a complete introvert, almost all my pictures are selfies. Even if it's when I was doing something like kayaking with my friend, or on my office Dragonboat team--I took a selfie and didn't ask anyone else to take one because I thought it was weird. I'll try to be better about that--but the rest I think I'm pretty good with, usually.

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thinkBOXthinkOP•

I'm sorry if I offended you or made you think a certain way, I think if you have all selfies and you're out actually doing things that's perfectly fine. I see a lot of profiles where a woman sat in bed and took about 5 selfies with different facial expressions and posted them to her OLD profile. That's what I'm referring to.

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s3rndpt•

Nah, I think it was a perfectly valid thought on your part. I'm not even on any sites right now, as I met someone I'm talking to, but it never hurts to have this stuff in your back pocket for future reference. I mean, I'm not a man---I have no idea what men look for in women's profiles--I've always just used my best guess to make mine.

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thinkBOXthinkOP•

I love hearing different perspectives, even if they don't completely jive with my own. I'm always open to different opinions and open to possibilities. What I don't like is someone telling me how something that is completely subjective "IS". These are just close minded people here who think they are open minded but they're not. They assumed something about me and instead of trying to understand they just made their own ASSumptions and attacked. Nothing ever gets solved that way. Best of luck to you, happy you found someone off of OLD, it's always nice to hear that people are still meeting organically in this digital COVID age we're in.

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mamadgaflooking for love in all the wrong places•

All of the recent pics of me are selfies because I’m single and don’t have anyone to take pics of me anymore. If a guy doesn’t like it, that’s fine. Bye!

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tequilamockingbored52/M - [This space for rent]•

"it's pretty easy to find you on the internet and verify your age." The first rule of Due Diligence Club is don't talk about Due Diligence Club.

I doubt anyone will change their profiles based on this input OP. On average, women get far more first messages than men and far more responses when they initiate.

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thinkBOXthinkOP•

Honestly, I hope more women see this and understand how easy it is to find someone's identity on the internet. There are some crazy people out there and everyone who is using OLD should do everything they can to protect themselves.

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DatesForFun•

Maybe it’s time for an online dating break

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dessert77•

I think people sometimes overdo it too and their profiles are just way too put together like an ad. I swipe left

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morrlyMOD50+/F•

The arguments are getting really old. Be nice to one another, even if you disagree. Civility, it's real.

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dutchoboe•

I agree completely - this gives me ā€˜hope’ that there are men who actually will read profile content

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thinkBOXthinkOP•

I do always read them, attraction to me is so much more than a physical thing so it's nice to have some insight into who they are as a person. Like I mentioned, it also gives me something to go on when I send a message instead of sending some generic "hey" or "how's your day going" kind of message.

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thinkBOXthinkOP•

Also sometimes women have their own set of "deal breakers" in their profile that I like to respect. Sometimes women say they are married and in an open relationship or looking for a divorcee who has kids (which I do not) so I wouldn't want to swipe or message them if I don't fall within what they're looking for.

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CharKrat•

I (F) agree with your points. Happy to say my dating profile is non of what you mentioned.

And all that you said can and should definitely apply to men as well. And more! Lol

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wawa310•

Lol I gotta say 1, 2, 4, 6, and 8 totally apply to guys too.

Question about #7 - why is crossed legs weird?

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no_shame_me•

3 7 8 are damn spot on.
If a grown woman has a filter on, she is hiden something. Duck lips and bathroom selfies, are automatic swipe lefts. I don't care if you can cook, clean, hold a job, bang like a porn star. Left swipe.

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