Palestinians start shots for medical staff with first vaccines, sent by Israel
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An explanation of the failure in rolling out the vaccine through the occupied territories. https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/lbmo5s/palestinians_start_shots_for_medical_staff_with/glv4zhf?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
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According to the links provided by the author of that little propaganda essay
Let’s start with the facts. Under the Oslo Accords, the Palestinian Authority is responsible for its own health services. This is part of its long-held intention to function as an independent state – a status that has been formally recognised by 139 countries. If Israel were responsible for the hospitals, clinics and general civil administration on the West Bank, that truly would be full-fat colonisation. For this reason, the Palestinians find it deeply embarrassing to ask Israel for vaccine assistance, even viewing it as collaboration with the enemy.
So apparently neither you nor the author bothered to actually read the links posted, or maybe you just hope we wouldn’t bother...
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Stupid Israeli proponganda
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After they gave their entire population two doses...
Here... Have some leftovers while we take some of your juicy land.
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Wait, so they should vaccinate Palestinians before Some Israeli citizens why? Israel should have stop at protecting some of it’s population and left the rest unprotected and then give the Palestinians vaccines?
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This is only happening because Russia literally robbed the PA of their first order of vaccines. Israel was repeatedly told that no help was required and that the PA would figure it out on their own, then their order of Russian vaccines (was supposed to arrive weeks ago) simply didn't show up and Israel is now stepping in.
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Is Palestine Israeli land then? If they are expected to provide medical care at the same rate and with the same priority as their own citizens then it surely is.
Do you think Taiwan needs to vaccinate the mainland with the same priority as their own populace?
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Doesn't the Oslo Accords make it the Palestinian'a responsibility? That would be like Canada vaccinating Americans.
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Exposing injustice- good. Covering it up- bad.
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According to the links provided by the author of that little propaganda essay
Let’s start with the facts. Under the Oslo Accords, the Palestinian Authority is responsible for its own health services. This is part of its long-held intention to function as an independent state – a status that has been formally recognised by 139 countries. If Israel were responsible for the hospitals, clinics and general civil administration on the West Bank, that truly would be full-fat colonisation. For this reason, the Palestinians find it deeply embarrassing to ask Israel for vaccine assistance, even viewing it as collaboration with the enemy.
So apparently neither you nor the author bothered to actually read the links posted, or maybe you just hope we wouldn’t bother...
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Firstly, thanks for taking a moment to respond to my comment. Most of those voting on this post seem happy to blindly downvote all the comments without bothering to evaluate the statements. So, yes, most people have indeed not bothered to actually read anything.
On to the content, occupying powers may have agreements to delegate duties, but the responsibility lies with the occupier. Eg. If the people are dying of starvation or cold, the occupying power can't say that this not their problem. Any aid, recovery or shelter provided by the PA is contingent on approval and allowance by Israel. In many cases Israel has delayed, diverted or destroyed aid supplies. It is able to do that because it is the sole controller of what enters and leaves the occupied territories. Can an occupied territory give a waiver, or sign away human rights? No, that is ridiculous to even think it. Otherwise the fist step in any armed occupation would be to have a puppet government sign away all rights, making every war crime legal. If you want to hold Germany responsible for war crimes in Poland, Israel has to be similarly responsible for what is happening in the occupied territories.
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As a Palestinian should you have any reservations about allowing a needle to be injected into your arm with a substance sourced from a long term adversary?
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you pepole need to make up your mind, first you were angry that israel didnt provide the pa with vaccines (despite it not being their responsibility) and now when they do, you are angry that israel is giving them vaccines.
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It's not their responsibility?
"UN human rights experts today called on Israel, the occupying power, to ensure swift and equitable access to COVID-19 vaccines for the Palestinian people under occupation. [...]The experts said that as the occupying power, Israel is required under the Fourth Geneva Convention, “to the fullest extent of the means available to it”, to maintain health services in the occupied territory.Article 56 requires Israel to adopt and apply “the prophylactic and preventive measures necessary to combat the spread of contagious diseases and epidemics” "
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Oslo states that health of Palestinians is provided by PA.
Don't they want to be sovereign ? Lol.
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What is the purpose of the pa health care department?
The pa and israel are separate enteties, if the pa woshes fpr israeli vaccines, they should make a formal request. No auch a request was given, so israel is not required to give them free vaccines.
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I mean is this supposed to put Israel in positive light in this particular instance?
That's a laugh lol
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I don’t t think his country is actively enforcing an apartheid state as an occupying force while expanding illegal settlements and killing their children for sport either
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Your slander doesn't change the fact that only Israel sent them vaccines. .
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Dozes sent by Israel are a fraction of what Palestinians need. They probably tried sending a few so articles could be written to offset the bad press.
I compiled Evidence based answers to the Israeli-Palestinian vaccine issue in case you are confused. The issue is around Israelis refusing to vaccinate Palestinians and Palestinians affirming it as an obligation under international law as an occupying power.
Here is the Israeli health minister being grilled about it on TV.
Both sides seem to fight in social media, in organized efforts even. For example, Here is Israeli propaganda app directing users to repeat certain arguments on social media posts?
Did Palestinians refuse to take the vaccine from Israel?
No, they didn't. Here is a piece covering the Palestinian Authority affirming Israel’s responsibility for vaccines. Here is a statement by the Palestinian Negotiations affairs department citing the responsibility of Israel as occupying power under Geneva convention to provide the vaccine to occupied populace. Here is the Palestinian ambassador to the UK doing the same.
Israel by it's occupation has choked the infrastructure and capabilities of the public health sector of Palestine; It is their duty under international law to provide it, but admittedly Zionists don't care.
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Did Palestinians ask for it officially?
Yes, Here it is reported:
" In truth, Palestinian liaison officials had already quietly contacted Israel’s Coordination of Government Activities in the Territories (COGAT) department to request the vaccine. The Israelis had agreed to help. Assisting the Palestinians made sense, since it was vital to maintain a degree of goodwill in coordination between the two sides on the West Bank. "
In response Israel provided dozens of vaccines. Looks more like an attempt at humiliation.
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Did Palestinian lose their right to vaccination by Israel in the Oslo Accords?
No, The human rights in the Geneva conventions are not lost. It was stressed by the UN. They are International law signed by 196 countries, one of which is Israel. Again you can’t waive human rights in International law as the Geneva Convention doesn't allow it.
Here is more about it:
UN human rights experts today called on Israel, the occupying power, to ensure swift and equitable access to COVID-19 vaccines for the Palestinian people under occupation. [...]The experts said that as the occupying power, Israel is required under the Fourth Geneva Convention, “to the fullest extent of the means available to it”, to maintain health services in the occupied territory.Article 56 requires Israel to adopt and apply “the prophylactic and preventive measures necessary to combat the spread of contagious diseases and epidemics” in cooperation with national and local authorities.If the protected population is inadequately supplied, the occupying power is required under the Convention to facilitate relief schemes “by all means at its disposal”. Even if relief consignments, including ‘medical supplies’, are provided by others, Article 60 states that such consignments “shall in no way relieve the occupying power of any of its responsibilities” for health care to the protected population.“The right to health is also a fundamental human rights issue,” the experts said. “International human rights law, which applies in full to the occupied Palestinian territory, stipulates that everyone enjoys the right to ‘the highest attainable standard of physical and mental health’.The denial of an equal access to health care, such as on the basis of ethnicity or race, is discriminatory and unlawful. ”They said some Israeli commentators have justified the differential treatment on the grounds that the 1995 Israeli-Palestinian Interim Agreement, an integral part of the Oslo Accords, provides that the Palestinian Authority would assume the responsibility for health care in the Palestinian territory, including for vaccinations. The experts said that the Oslo Accords must be interpreted and applied consistent with international law, and cannot derogate from its broad protections. The ultimate responsibility for health services remains with the occupying power until the occupation has fully and finally ended.
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Wow you really hoping people don’t read the links you posted huh?
Let’s start with the facts. Under the Oslo Accords, the Palestinian Authority is responsible for its own health services. This is part of its long-held intention to function as an independent state – a status that has been formally recognised by 139 countries. If Israel were responsible for the hospitals, clinics and general civil administration on the West Bank, that truly would be full-fat colonisation. For this reason, the Palestinians find it deeply embarrassing to ask Israel for vaccine assistance, even viewing it as collaboration with the enemy.
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This was answered in my comment.
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And was disproven by my comment. Nice try though.
I will grant you this, you certainly seem to have spent a long time on that propaganda post though. A+ for effort, D- for execution.
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Not a single mention of the 2 million doses of Russian vaccines that the PA ordered but were never delivered?
From your own source where you accuse COGAT of shirking responsibility: "In December, PA officials insisted that they were going to procure the lifesaving drugs themselves, in cooperation with the World Health Organisation. Initially, Ramallah set its sights on Russia’s slightly suspect Sputnik V vaccine. Then it revised its plans, instead joining the United Nations’ COVAX programme."
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Of course not. Why should they care about the Palestinian people’s health or the responsible use of their tax dollars? That would take time away from making Jewish people look bad.
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Palestinians anticipating Israelis refusal to adhere to international law doesn’t shirk off the responsibility of Israel. It is clearly stated by UN officials. In fact, I believe Palestinians should’ve tried it earlier, knowing Israelis.
You are an example of Israeli attitude towards international law.
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Can i get a timeline?
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