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Current /r/eve's witchhunt is happening on unverified information

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So the last 24/48h have been a wild ride with people first bashing PGL for posting a statement on Discord.

This was followed instantly (~1h) response by a GM ticket in regards to server management, which was countered by u/ccp_convict again less than 24h later.

All of this drama is stemming from a single GM's response, this GM's response is unverified. Everybody is getting their pitchforks out, but very few people seem to notice that the message posted by u/epicblood did not contain the actual date, nor the actual question which was asking.

Later he posted just the message, but without the answer, again failing to provide the needed context.

What is more peculiur about this, this is his original request:

http://imgur.com/gallery/LGKKJsy (timestamped at 17 Feb, 2021 -- 23:35 UTC)

and the answer:

https://i.imgur.com/8PsocBZ.png (timestamped without a date, and seemingly 15:43, which would be an 8-minute response to a ticket, entirely possible, but I tend to get slightly slower feedback on my tickets)

If he can post the message, then sure we can have a discussion on what should have been said and what kind of communication is acceptable, etc etc etc. But this wouldn't be the first time that a company does damage control on social media for an out-of-context post.

So hold on to your pitchforks and until properly verified information is available, don't jump to conclusions.

Feel free to post the conversation with the actual dates and full context u/epicblood (and I'm sure nobody minds that you edit out your own name).

So before we go off on CCP for failing to communicate, let's first verify the information we have at hand to be actually truthful in nature.

Posted Feb 19, 2021, 8:13 AM UTC · locked

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JoshuaFoiritainlevel 69 enchanter•

All of this drama is stemming from a single GM's response, this GM's response is unverified.

Its against the rules to modify communcation you get from CCP/GMs therefor anytime its posted theres no reason to assume its fake. If it does turn out to be faked report it to CCP to take action.

Its also important to remember that GMs generally have no idea what theyre talking about though as theyre just tech support dudes working off a script & copy and pasting generic answers. But thats no reason not to run with the nonsense they say.

Plus you should never let things get in the way of a good witch hunt.

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Hoder_OPCloaked•

And still, people did that and got banned, I'm agreeing with you that it's potentially getting in the way of a good witch hunt, but imagine the drama if it's fake!

It'll be the witchhunt of the year!

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blinkosCloaked•

You would expect that, since a CPP response was issued by Convict, the matter would have been looked into and it would be made certain that this was a real GM response. In any other case Convict would just come out and say "This screenshot was from another time / This screenshot was edited" or something similar.

I believe that in this case, it is safe to assume that since it wasn't denied by CCP's own representative, the GM Baldur response was in fact real.

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Hoder_OPCloaked•

Agreed, but again, this is an assumption. Wouldn't be the first time that a company does damage control for something pulled out of context / fake.

It's very simple to verify it, the person just posts the original question + answer in a single image, and we're done.

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blinkosCloaked•

This is not an assumption. The company's response is confirming the original statement.

This isn't your friendly neighborhood Indie dev company. If they publicly respond to a GM statement, the statement was true. Otherwise they would have disputed the statement along with the denial of its content.

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WeylandNZSnuffed Out•

Look man i just want an excuse to laugh at PGL and i'll take what i can get

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Heter0Sapiens•

Like you need an excuse for that

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Noble-2-KatTest Alliance Please Ignore•

You must be running internet explorer

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HoboJammer•

good luck getting verified information out of CCP without a witchhunt on unverified information :)

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jacobsho•

U need help 😬😬😬😬

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Dave-StarkWaaah!! I'm upset the mods didn't give me a custom title•

this whole sub needs help.

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FraternityIsCancer69•

tOo much koolaid

I need water asap

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TheSkyNetCONCORD•

NOBODY FUCKING CARES

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MBouh•

It's so easy to start a witch hunt with social media, it's definitely going to be weaponized. But it's still probably shear stupidity for now.

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EpicbloodGoonswarm Federation•

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/lmmbgw/z/gnz92pr?context=3

This is so cool, no one has ever made a thread for me before

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Hoder_OPCloaked•

So you're still refusing to provide actual proof with the proper context.

At this point, it would be safe to request u/ccp_convict to open an inquire to modified / out-of-context GM communication.

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EpicbloodGoonswarm Federation•

I've provided plenty of proof, ccp knows whether or not it was the real response even without your dumbass asking them to look at it, but go ahead.

If you want your screenshot, you're going to have to pay for it, if you're so sure it's fake put your money where your mouth is.

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PlexasAideronGoonswarm Federation•

Hey OP, you're one dumb dipshit.

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avreeMODWormholer•

CCP and the CSM have confirmed the GM communication was real, but inaccurate. This thread is a witch-hunt, not whatever you believe. Do you really think if it was a photoshopped thread, Convict wouldn't have mentioned it in his follow up? Locked.

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Weyland_StarkThe Initiative.•

Tbh 90% of the drama is about goonies roleplaying GMs never talk to leaders/FCs, which every single long time player knows that they do, and trying to humiliate a hostile FC.

You know, standard goonie behaviour.

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1DQ_By_ChristmasGoonswarm Federation•

Important thing is, ProGodLiar made a false statement and talked out of his ass. The GM's response is a different issue. If The Mittani did something like that, the entirety of Reddit koolaid drinkers would cry out to CCP for his swift removal from Eve.

Tldr : GM made a response that was awkward, but PGL lied.

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