chokfull•

What the fuck are you talking about. Sleeping people exist, it's a medical concept. They're not conscious, they don't know what's happening to them.

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DrDeezee•

This explains a lot less about my life, unfortunately

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SociopathsAreMade•

Now if the prosecution would just accept that defence...

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DrDeezee•

This explains a lot about my life, all the sudden

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samurai_45•

hey, no learns!

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[deleted]•

Muh descriptivism

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mad-letter•

nerd

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PapaverOneirium•

okay but enough about Jordan peterson

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Thembaneu•

Whelp that's dehumanizing

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DrDeezee•

the best (bad)philosophy always is

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burner5291•

I vaguely remember Dawkins once saying that we're all just big fleshy robots so that checks out

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elkengineOP•

'Humans are flesh robots' is fine (though reasonable people might disagree). 'Mentally ill people lack consciousness' is not.

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No_Tension_896•

Dawkins is bad but saying we're meat robots isn't anywhere near as bad as this.

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DrDeezee•

🙁 Feels bad

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AnnaFreud•

Can confirm, I don’t know what’s happening to me ever

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DrDeezee•

possibly ironic user name considering this comment

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No_Tension_896•

Dear GOD that's bad.

Mfw old timey asylums were actually perfectly fine torturing mentally ill people because they're all philosophical zombies, nothing even in there basically just a shell.

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1an0ther•

Old timey asylums, new timey psych wards. Shells torturing shells. Forever.

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Oflameo•

This post is too meta. I don't like it.

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[deleted]•

say it with me now: superiority complex

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1an0ther•

Schopenhauer's idea that insanity is a deficiency of memory is not so greatly elevated above this one. Anyone who comes out with stuff like this I prescribe one meth binge, for a better personal understanding of psychosis.

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Sisyphusarbeit•

Everything that can make choices is consciousness

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wavy_crocket•

what an awful definition. how about a quantum number generator? do you think that is conscious or not making a choice? Define choice?

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ruaidhriNihilists love the form of the good apparently...•

Every die I used to create an RPG character was definitely conscious. Conscious of rolling me shitty stats.

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OisforOwesome•

"The dice hate me specifically and want me to suffer" is as accurate an answer to some of my RPG sessions so this checks out.

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Sisyphusarbeit•

Define definition

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DrDeezee•

imagine imagining

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dehmos•

Lmao

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Oflameo•

definition : a set of criteria that limits the extent or usage

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dougvj•

Everywhere else: it's called the hard problem for a very good reason.

Reddit: Oh it's just making choices, duh!

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overlordpotatoe•

I think I would distinguish between an algorithm giving an output and a conscious being making a choice. Random number generators ideally produce their outputs based on factors that make them very hard to predict, but what they're actually doing is no more a choice than what a calculator does when you enter 2 + 2 and it tells you the answer is 4.

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wavy_crocket•

Quantum random number generators are actually random. I understand the point you are making though. I personally don't believe that libertarian free will is a coherent concept. I think consciousness arises in when enough nuerons are together and firing. I don't think there is a switch that gets flipped, in our species evolution it was just gradually getting closer to what we think of a consciousness. Does a plant make a choice? how about a mite? or a lizard, chimp or human? Do you believe if time was rewound that you could have done something different than what you did?

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overlordpotatoe•

I agree with you on that. I don't think there's truly such a thing as free will. It's just that the factors that go into the decisions we end up making are so complex and hard to track that it seems that way. But, really, all we can do is react in accordance to how we are and the experiences we have.

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Klaus_Unechtname•

Define theory

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thefreshserve•

Anything sounds based when delivered with enough sass. Winning Twitter is winning the right bored nihilism

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Xenfo-•

Boutta instantaneously become a conscious being capable of thought by popping my schizo meds 🤤

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