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3Dputty

I move to China in a couple of days. What are some useful phrases?

My good buddy (Chinese) is meeting me at the airport and I'll be getting a mandarin tutor asap, so I've kind of let learning a few phrases slip off my to do list, embarrassingly. But just in case I manage to get lost, or whatever, what are some useful phrases I can practice in the next few days? I guess like, a respectful greeting, "where is the toilet", "where can I get a taxi", "I don't speak mandarin", "I'm from New Zealand", I don't know, whatever you found useful? I don't even know 'yes' or 'no' yet. I'm terrible!

I posted this to /chineselanguage 2 days ago but got no response.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give.

Posted Dec 21, 2011, 7:47 PM UTC

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Taibo•

'bu yao' = do not want

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if you're going to a big city, this is the first advice I received, and maybe the best advice ever, add xie xie (see-a, see-a) to the end, for extra politeness.

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downvotesyndromekidUnited Kingdom•

'bu yong' should be politer than bu yao, if we're talking about responding to heckling vendors in tourist and transport areas.

xiexie is usually going a bit too far I think, if that's the situation. Ignoring them altogether wouldn't be inappropriate.

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3DputtyOP•

Brilliant, hadn't thought of that but am sure it will be useful, thanks.

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H_E_Pennypacker•

"qu ni ma de" - A (very formal) way of saying 'nice to meet you.'

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3DputtyOP•

Brilliant, thanks!

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H_E_Pennypacker•

No problem, friend! Qu ni ma de!

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k3rfuffle•

troll! troll!

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JergCanada•

punch is a (very formal) way of replying to 'qu ni ma de', sort of like 'you too'.

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snackburrosChina•

Hahaha best advice ever.

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3DputtyOP•

Haha OK with all the upvotes and this comment, I'm starting to suspect this is a troll..

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Kooglemoore•

It means "fuck off."

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lordnikkonUnited States•

specifically it means means "go fuck your mother"

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WadeK•

Ah, of course! Why, I took a taxi ride last week and the driver got out of the car and proceeded to shout this (along with some other colorful phrases) at a bus driver for five minutes.

Isn't it nice when people decide to make spontaneous friends like that?

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loller•
  • 请问,洗手间在哪里? Qǐngwèn, xǐshǒujiān zài Nǎlǐ (Let me ask, where is the bathroom?)

  • 不好意思,我不会讲普通话。 Bùhǎoyìsī, wǒ búhuì jiǎng pǔtōnghuà. (Excuse me, I can't speak Chinese.)

  • 我来自新西兰。 Wǒ láizì Xīnxīlán (I'm from New Zealand.)



For grammar and word order: Subject + verb + object

Qǐngwèn (Let me ask), Xǐshǒujiān (bathroom) zài (at) Nǎlǐ? (where)?

Bùhǎoyìsī (Excuse me), wǒ (I) búhuì (cannot) jiǎng (speak) Pǔtōnghuà (Mandarin).

Wǒ (I) láizì (come from) Xīnxīlán (New Zealand).

Qǐngwèn is useful for any time you want to begin the process of asking a stranger a question. They'll probably be happy to help you simply because you're a foreigner though.


And this one is just practical:

不不。 真的。 我不操羊! 我有的时候比较喜欢人。

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stringhimup•

Not sure where you live mate but this seems overly formal for most locations.

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loller•

He said he wanted some polite phrases that are useful. Adding qǐngwèn and bùhǎoyìsī are extremely useful when dealing with strangers, which is who he'll be dealing with.

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3DputtyOP•

Hey, thanks for your help anyway, all of this is good to know. Also I'm a female :)

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loller•

Then the probability of strangers wanting to answer your questions will go up 200%. And that also kind of ruins my joke at the bottom.

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kinggimpedEngland•

Why the frig are you getting downvoted for actually being helpful?

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loller•

Once we travel outside of r/Shanghai...it's no-man's land, a place where logic and appreciation know no bounds. I bet they're uncouth Australian bogans too, who begin all their questions with "Oi you!".

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smeenz•

I seriously suggest you familiarise yourself with how to pronounce pinyin and tones. Without that base, you'll have trouble being understood, and if you can't read chinese characters, then you'll need to read and write everything in pinyin, until you can.

Tones are very important, and it's frustratingly easy for an english speaker to accidentally raise the tone at the end of a sentence when asking a question, and thus turning the last word into a mandarin second tone.

Google translate is reasonable for producing samples of words so you can hear what they sound like, but you really need a native speaker to tell you if you're actually copying them correctly.

Once you have the base knowledge of tones and pinyin, you can work on improving your vocabularly, then learning grammar, then more vocabulary, then learning weird grammar, and that will get you to the point where you can express some simple stuff on demand, but you'll probably find it very difficut to understand native speakers talking amongst themselves, and you'll probably get frustrated with yourself when you've put in all that work and you're still not being understood.

Also, you'll probably find that people appear to understand what you're saying quite early on, and then appear to get confused and no longer understand after you've been getting better for several months. I've put this down to what I call 'foreigner effect', where someone speaks the language so badly that people go out of their way to try and work out what they said. Once you get better, to the point where native speakers think you can actually speak a language, they actually become less tolerant of mistakes, and it feels like you've taken 100 steps back. Imagine someone just learning English and asking "toilet where ?" (chinese word order), compared with the same person asking six months later "where toilet ?" (english word order, actually an improvement, but sounds worse for some reason)

And written chinese.. well, that's another matter all together.

But don't despair.. it does take time, and you'll get the hang of it eventually.

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As for your questions:

"where is the toilet" : Cè suǒ zài nǎ ?
'zài nǎ' means 'where', and goes at the end of a sentence. The toilet is 'Cè suǒ'. The pinyin 'c' is pronounced like a 'ts' sound, and it's a 4th (falling) tone. A pinyin 'e' vowel is pronounced somewhere between 'er' and 'or', so the whole word is similar to 'tsor' For me, pronoucing Cè was one of the more difficult sounds to get right (to the point where a native speaker knew what I was saying). The word suǒ - the vowel is 'uo', which is prounouced as two sounds - uu-oor, so the word like 'sue-or', and is 3rd tone, so falls and then rises again. Zai is 4th tone, easy to say, and na is 3rd tone, falling and rising. I hope you can see from this just why learning to pronounce pinyin first is so damn important.

For the taxi question - although you could embellish the question and make it clear you want to hire a taxi, you can also just use the structure above and ask where a taxi is - "Chū zū chē zài nǎ ?". "<noun> zài nǎ ?" is a useful structure to remember. In this case, "chu zu" is the taxi, "che" (pronounced "cher") is a vehicle (car), and zai na I explained above.

"I don't speak mandarin" - Wǒ(I) bù huì (can't) shuō (speak) zhōngwén (chinese).
Wǒ (pronounced more like 'war', 3rd tone) "bù" is a modifier that negates the following word, similar to 'not' in english.
bù huì (pronounced 'boo hway' with as aspirated h)
shuō - remember the double vowel as in 'suo' above - this sounds like 'shoe-or'
zhongwen - a 'zh' in pinyin is like a j in english, so zhong sounds like 'joong', wen sounds as written.

"I'm from New Zealand" - easier to remember the structure for 'I'm a New Zealander', which is 'Wǒ shì xīnxīlán rén'
'Wǒ - you know from above (war)
shì - the verb 'to be', so this means "is" or "am" xīnxīlán - xīn means 'new', prounouned like 'sin', but not quite.. you have to hear it, and xīlán is a phonetically similar sound to 'zealand'. Note that outside of mainland china, they often use the word "Niǔ xī lán"
rén (person) - pinyin 'r' sounds like a french j, as in 'je ne', sort of half like an r and half like a j.

I don't know - Wǒ bù zhīdào
zhi - pronounced like "jur" as in "jury"
dao - as written.

Yes -Shì de (as in 'shirt' with out the rt')
No - Bù Shì

Also useful - Nǐ huì shuō yīngyǔ ma? (do you speak english ?). While it might seem silly to ask someone in chinese whether they speak english, it may be that they don't speak it, but know someone who does. You'll generally find that anyone under the age of 30 in major cities will have a reasonable grasp. People over the age of 50 probably won't speak a word of it.

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sarahbotts•

However when you are speaking Chinese when you ask a question you do raise your tone at the end for a question.

And dache can also be used for taxi as well.

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3DputtyOP•

That's some good insight in to why they might not understand you as you get better at the language, I would have to agree that's most likely why. It's funny how the human brain works. I have a lot of work ahead of me. I'll be working, but I'm hoping a couple of hours in the evening is going to get me to a satisfactory level soon enough. I will definitely be looking into tones and pin yin. Thanks very much for your help.

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smeenz•

No problem. I did a lot of edits after posting that, so perhaps reload it.

Also of great use is having the address of your friend (or whoever you're staying with) printed in chinese, so you can show it to a taxi driver. Don't be surprised if you get totally ripped off (on price) as a foreigner taking a taxi or tuktuk by yourself. Without a native speaker friend to tell the driver off, they will take advantage of you. Trains and buses work on a electronic card system, and don't suffer from the same problem.

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cty•

Only use registered cabs. There should be a large name card on display in front of the front passenger seat with a photo of the driver, the registration no. and the company.

Always ask to use the meter and ask for the printed receipt when getting off. This at least serves as a psychological deterrent for would-be ripping-off drivers. The receipt has the fare, distance and a complaint tel. no.

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sarahbotts•

and if you get ripped off, make sure you get a receipt and you can get reimbursed later/after you complain.

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stringhimup•

Repeat exactly as you read "gay-woe-E-ga-pee-joe" in english "please give me a beer". Only phrase I knew first coming to China and has been the best gateway to general life over here. Have fun!

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Beaufoofer•

Your ability to order Chinese dishes and drinks will be amazing in a couple months. But then you will realize you don't know how to say anything else outside of a Chinese restaurant.

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stringhimup•

Oh the plateaus of learning a new language.

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3DputtyOP•

This has clearly got to be the most important one. Thank you kind Sir. Or Madam.

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JergCanada•

A more simplified and less awkward way of saying "hand me a beer" would be "Lai Yi Ping Pi Jiu", it basically means "Pass me a bottle of beer" and is much more relaxed and warm than "gay-woe-E-ga-pee-joe" which in English would be sort of like saying "Give to me one article of beer".

Tag a "Duo Xie (pronunciation: shieh)" at the end, to indicate "thanks".

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stringhimup•

Just doin my part. Maybe see you around.

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abrandnewhope•

Pigging back on this advice, if you see street food you like, you could just say the first part of the sentence stated earlier, and just say, "Gay-woe-E-guh" which means give me one/I'll take one.

Gay-woe-E-guh in pinyin, btw, is Gei wo yi ge. Just so you can start getting used to pinyin.

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benjaminchodroffUnited States•

"ma la" -- means "numb spicy", sorry, that's all I know but it's what I love -- will be doing a similar trip and hope to learn some useful phrases too from this thread!

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3DputtyOP•

Haha, thank you! So far I can say "Hello, numb spicy". Prepare yourself to be communicated with, China.

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benjaminchodroffUnited States•

We'll go far :) I'd recommend these two books that I'm reading:

On China - by Henry Kissinger

Etiquette Guide to China: Know the Rules that Make the Difference!

I learned a ton and the etiquette book had a bunch of useful phrases in the back

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3DputtyOP•

Thanks, I'll have a look for these today. Have a bunch of learning to do...

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adasumbrella•

wei sheng jian zai naer = where is the bathroom wo cong lai New Zealand = I'm from New Zealand Wo bu hui shuo zhong wen = I can't speak Chinese Bu = no They don't have a word for yes like we do in English. It depends on the question asked. Also the phrases above require tones which I left out and an understanding of how to read pin yin. Sorry It's really hard to write it out for you without using pin yin.

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kinggimpedEngland•

In my experience Chinese people had no idea what 'New Zealand' is. They do recognise the Chinese word for it though, xinxilan (新西兰).

You can use dui (对) for 'yes' most of the time, or just repeat the verb (e.g. 'Ni shi yingguoren ma?' (你是英国人吗), 'Shi' (是).). In fact, you can pretty much use 'shi', 'shi a', 'shi de' etc. for 'yes' across the board.

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3DputtyOP•

Hi, thanks. Would you pronounce xinxilan -shin shee lan? I'm not sure. Also, I don't suppose you know what the Chinese character for 2 is? I'm meeting my friend at gate 2..

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slam7053•

the chinese character for 2 is er4, pronounced "ar!"

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Beaufoofer•

that is how you pronounce it. it is written as 二. Most likely there will be an English sign that says Gate 2.

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kinggimpedEngland•

Xīnxīlán - yes, "shin shee lan". High, flat tones for "shin shee", then an upwards tone for "lan". Click the audio button on this page to hear Google Translate say it.

The Chinese character for 2 is 二 (èr), but it has an alternative form, 两 (liǎng). The two are not interchangeable, you just have to learn when each is appropriate.

The general rule of thumb is that 两 is used with measure words - for example 两杯咖啡 (liǎng bēi kāfēi) "two cups of coffee", or 两个人 (liǎng gè rén) "two people". This is only used when it's actually 2 of something, though - if it's a quantity ending in 2 (e.g. 42) then 二 is used (e.g. 四十二杯咖啡 (sì shí èr bēi kāfēi) "42 cups of coffee").

二 is used when the number is not going with a measure word. In the example you gave, I would use 二: 我在二号门去见朋友 (wǒ zài èr hào mén qù jiàn péngyǒu) "I am meeting my friend at gate 2".

However, 两 is also used when counting with bigger numbers, like 两百 (liǎng bǎi), "200", 两千 (liǎng qiān), "2,000", 两万 (liǎng wàn), "20,000", etc. So you can have both in the same number, e.g. 两千五百二十二 (liǎng qiān wǔ bǎi èr shí èr), "2522").

If you use 二 instead of 两 it's likely that a Chinese person would still understand you, but it's not good Mandarin.

I'm not a native speaker, by the way.

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stringhimup•

Shi da pretty much works for all you're "yes" situations... I.E. girl asks if you want to go back to her place your response "shi da!". Are you from (obligatory country)? you respond Shi da! Chinese dude who speaks to fast and uses overly complicated words " do you understand what I'm saying?" you smile and say shi da. Obviously there are better ways to respond, just as in English, but Shi da seems to work for most situations.

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shi de* (shuh duh)

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3DputtyOP•

Shi da, xie xie ni, ooo, look at me!

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salgat•

I would advise saying xi shou jian instead of wei sheng jian. My tones are bad and my buddy thought I said "women's sanitary pads" at first haha.

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3DputtyOP•

I guess I'm just going to have really flat pronunciation for a while. I have been reading a little about the tones, but really haven't had enough time to get a proper understanding. These are really helpful though, thank you, I'll see if I can Google around for the tones to go with them.

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addhominey•

And be aware that writing Chinese with English letters doesn't always make phonetic sense. For instance, "shi" in a few of the responses above sounds most like "sure".

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3DputtyOP•

Thanks, I will do.

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Beaufoofer•

*你好 ni hao - hello *谢谢你 xie xie ni - Thank you *对不起 dui bu qi - Sorry *我是新西兰人 wo shi(sounds like 'sure') xin xi lan ren - I am a New Zealander *我听不懂 wo ting bu dong - I don't understand *我不会说中文 wo bu hui shuo zhongwen - I can't speak Chinese (weird to say in Chinese and they probably won't believe you) *我不要 wo bu yao - I don't want (People try to sell you everything wherever you go, just say this like 5 times and they should leave you alone) *洗手间在哪儿? xi shou jian zai nar? Where is the bathroom?

Everything will be a shock when you first get there. I studied for an entire year before I entered China and was still overwhelmed with the language. The key is to not get discouraged and be confident to speak what you know. Good luck and happy travels!

Edit: formatting Nevermind, don't understand

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3DputtyOP•

Yeah, confidence is big one. At the moment I still feel a bit silly and seem to laugh and look awkward every time I attempt any mandarin. The Chinese characters are helpful, I really hope I can do this - all seems a bit overwhelming right now! Thanks a lot for your help.

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Qw3rtyP0iuy•

Since everyone's either posting in Pinyin or their own method, here's a standardized table you can listen to for a feel of how syllables are pronounced.

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bigrocco•

Useful

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blonderocker•

zai lai yi bei! = Give me another glass! (all drinks... including the most important: beer!)

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Quick example: Chengdu (A city here) is not pronounced Cheng-doo. It's "Chung-duh." If you ask for a ticket to Cheng-doo, the ticket agent will have no idea what you're talking about.

Except the pinyin du IS pronounced doo. What are YOU talking about? I have never heard anyone pronounce it cheng-duh.

Anticipating any potential ignorance, I first found a site in English with a pronunciation guide (and audio file) here. Cheng-doo.

Second, I searched Youku for a video introducing Chengdu, and found this one. Again, cheng-doo.

So, I'm calling shenanigans on your "cheng-duh." It's standard pinyin to pronounce "u" as "oo."

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abrandnewhope•

Exactly what I was thinking. Except for words with the umlat "u" (like in nü/girl), a "u" in pinyin sounds like the American English "oo" like a cow's "moo". For instance "mù" (wood) sounds like "moo". Lù (road) sounds like "loo".

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sarahbotts•

You're confusing the cities Chengde and Chengdu.

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snowwalrus•

Oh shit! I'm an idiot. Fuck, I hope I didn't confuse the OP. Well, I picked a bad example, but the rest is right.

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3DputtyOP•

Very good to know, especially since Chengdu is where I'm flying to. I have been watching some youTube videos on different pronunciations, but there seems to be so many that it seems a bit pointless approaching it that way right now. I'm hoping to learn as much as I can from my friend and my yet-to-be-found mandarin tutor. For now I guess I will have to get used to the blank stares!

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abrandnewhope•

Honestly, I'd suggest getting a 1 month subscription to Chinesepod ASAP (chinesepod.com- a month is pretty cheap, something like $14, and you can download/save as many lessons as you want) and start listening to the Newbie lessons, starting with the lessons on pronouncing things in pinyin and about the 5 tones. Listen to those few lessons over and over (REALLY important-- I'll bet the way you're hearing "Shi de" and "xie xie" in your head is nothing like how it actually sounds) and then move on to the how are you/airport/bathroom/restaurant dialoges. They do a really great job with the dialogues.

Pronounciation and tones are so important that depending on the tones you use to say "yi wan shui jiao duo shao qian?" it either means "how much for a bowl of dumplings?" OR "How much for one night's sleep?"

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Best phrases are:

Ting bu dong

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Bu zhi dao

These phrases were my best mates in my first year in China.

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XiamenGuyUnited States•

di tie = subway, mai dan = check please (resturaunt)

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[deleted]•

Dang I could of helped but I'm a Cantonese speaker :l - Just remember this though: Don't get ran over by crazy drivers, nearly got killed once by maniacal taxi man.

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JeffSanford•

美女,打飞机,and 口交。say the first one to the taxi driver and the next two to whoever you meet after ;D

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Televishun•

Sha bi- Use it as a compliment for someone you really like.

Ex: Ni hen sha bi.

EDIT: Also interchangeable with zhuang bi.

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H_E_Pennypacker•

Haha, you got downvoted for sha bi and i got upvoted for qu ni ma de. strange subreddit.

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3DputtyOP•

Not sure why this is being downvoted. Is it incorrect? Or a troll?

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Beaufoofer•

sha = silly bi = vagina. Translates roughly to meaning the word cunt. Taxi drivers yell it all the time, kinda funny.

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Televishun•

Why so much hater-ade?How come 去你妈的 gets upvotes? It's a joke, chill out guys.

Useful slang:

Shabi is like "fucking idiot"

Zhuangbi is "fucking poser"

Niubi is "Bad ass"

O Kao is similar to saying "Oh Shit"

Beiju is literally tragedy, it's internet slang similar to, but not exactly like "fail"

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abrandnewhope•

I'm Chinese (American) and never knew this. TIL! What are the tones? My parents never taught me swears, haha.

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