>and unsuccessfully tried to get her to answer some questions about it.

Oh bummer, that makes it more suspicious. I felt some despair about Whitney Webb, but Vandana Shiva I love and adore, and will be crushed if she's compromised.  Oh well.  The Book of Ours people say "no heroes" and that's the only way to navigate through these corrupted times.

No doubt, totally agree there on Webb. And on Shiva too - I just find it surprising with her to have those big NGO connections but don’t have any problem with what I’ve read from her. (Cory Morningstar and others have discussed the Shiva thing, and unsuccessfully tried to get her to answer some questions about it.)

Thanks for posting this, ~~I didn't see it at the time and look forward to listening~~ oh it's from last year, wanted to listen at the time but didn't because of the paywall.  Though the people I struggle to trust are Whitney Webb and Ryan Cristián after they went out of their way to poison the well against Alison McDowell and paint her as bizarrely, fanatically obsessed with blockchain. I can't look at either of them the same way again, though I'm sure they will continue to produce valid work on other topics.

Demystifying the Fourth Industrial Revolution: Whitney Webb interview with Cory Morningstar