The ending of Xenoblade 2. Well, reading this, I’m sure you guys know what I’m gonna say.

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The ending of Xenoblade 2 is quite depressing. Obviously. I, as someone who didn’t play the game but only watched no commentary long plays of the game, liked (no, loved) the story a lot, and thus the subtly vague ending keeps me up at night. Or maybe I should rewatch the game without skipping to only cutscenes and actually read dialogue.

I originally thought, that in the end, everyone else died except for the protagonist’s party as someone in the party said. I thought there was no other person alive on the other Titans. Then Pythra somehow gets teleported and become two seperate individuals. I was originally confused since it didn’t seem like much of a sacrifice at all for Rex. But I assumed it was only put at post credit for those like me who really cared and assuming even Myra didn’t understand their true power. I don’t think they ever died, only trapped in there and never able to return back to Rex originally.

Then I read online and there was someone who said that it’s actually Rex and the party and Pneuma who died, and the rest was merely a figment of Rex’s imagination. I’m not sure if he’s like in a matrix now and those people are only in his imagination or are they actually there.

Either way, this seems to be a game with a vague ending. I’m a big Xenoblade fan now, so I’d like to hear other people’s say on this.

Posted Jul 18, 2021, 3:28 AM UTC

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AngryPurpleFire:jin:•

I've never heard the theory about them all being in Rex's imagination lol. I can promise you that's not canon. It's all real. That's a fun theory though.

A big part of Rex's arc was learning that he can't protect everyone. He was forced to let go of pyra/mythra, and he was rewarded for it.

How they survived could either be because the core crystal was intact and they just didn't realize they would survive it, or the Architect saved them as part of his final gift.

There is some ambiguity about the ending, specifically on whether or not they kept their memories. I subscribe to the belief that they kept their memories, but there is reason to believe that they didn't.

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Xenosnake•

Pyra and Mythra seemed pretty happy when Poppi hugged them, so pretty sure they still had memories intact.

As for them surviving, pretty sure it was the Architect being a bro. They came back separately instead of sharing one body, so Architect probably pulled some strings.

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CalXeeOP•

I see. So assuming Pyra Mythra are real in that post credit scene is what I’m getting at. I still wonder how they survived… there any popular theories regarding that? I’m quite new to this community.

Also about the theory where they possibly lost all their memories in the end? That’s interesting too…

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AngryPurpleFire:jin:•

There are two main possibilities for how they survived.

A) it is said many times throughout the game that as long as a blades core is intact, the blade is unharmed. Since Rex still had their core undamaged, they were able to come back.

B) as part of the Architect’s last gift, he brought them back. There's a line in the song that plays that hints at that.

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kirbinato:rex:•

They survived since there core was intact and probably kept their memories since the aegis is where blade memories are stored

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_SBV_•

There planned two endings: one where they forget and what where they remember. Then they decided to remove that idea and make it so you decide what really happened

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UninformedPleb:brighid:•

I originally thought, that in the end, everyone else died except for the protagonist’s party as someone in the party said. I thought there was no other person alive on the other Titans.

That's a common misconception. But it's based on the party's initial fears after they come back down to Alrest. Then they see that the titans survived and all is well. And then they see the land exposed by the dissipation of the cloud sea, and all is very well. We're also shown (earlier, during the final boss fight) that the Gargoyle attacks on the titans stop, and there are survivors.

Then Pythra somehow gets teleported and become two seperate individuals.

The game was setting you up for this for several chapters. Malos talked about how Aegises could live without their core crystal for a while in at least one (if not two) cutscenes in the last few chapters.

But beyond that, it's also based on the Gnostic belief in Docetism. That doctrine states that Jesus wasn't human and was just an apparition, so his death wasn't really a death, and it meant nothing. We all know how Xenoblade loves its Gnostic themes... and Pneuma's fake sacrifice fits in perfectly.

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geo_bowes:nia:•

The Gargoyles didn’t really kill that many people though, and if they did u didn’t straight up see them get killed, only people running/fighting the Gargoyles that are attacking, no major characters in each of the titans is shown to have died. The Gargoyles aren’t nearly as brutal as the Mechon from the first game imo. Even if they had the same intentions

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Chaos-Kiwi:nia:•

As far as my understanding of the story goes, nobody on Alrest died. This is because of Pneuma's sacrifice, which actually did kill her. But remember that she gave rex her core crystal beforehand? Aegises can live for a while without their core crystal, but we dont know if they can be revived with said core crystal after they die and preserve their memories.

That said, some speculate that the Architect's gift was the revival (and separation) of both Pneuma forms, as well as the creation of new, solid land for the titans to hook into and have the people of alrest live in peace and steady ground.

So nobody died but pneuma and Malos, the space station was destroyed before it's fall could kill anyone by the might of Artifice Aion.

Hope this info helps clarify things, but keep in mind I'm no lore expert

(If i made mistakes please correct me)

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